Spent the rest of my mythril. 1/11 Basch bsb 1/11 orlandeau bsb.
Uninstalled for a few days. 17 pulls for 2 6*s in the last month. I just need a fucking holy item to go with fucking marche to get fucking hades fuck. my last like 8 pulls have been 1/11 no 6*.
Bring an Astra RW for the Cid mission, preferably Tyro USB1. They will show everyone at the start, and have an attack that can paralyze the whole party, AND I has no support 6* for affliction break.
Bring an Astra RW for the Cid mission, preferably Tyro USB1. They will show everyone at the start, and have an attack that can paralyze the whole party, AND I has no support 6* for affliction break.
Or just go full backline, depending on who you're trying to use.
I'm attempting the 140-difficulty Tiamat fight in the Reraise nightmare record. I'm not caring about getting a high rating, it's just that this guy has been a right pain in the butt for long enough and I need more good abilities so I can start moving on.
My only problem is that I can get him down to about 40% HP, but after all of that, I'm getting outclassed on damage. I was wondering if you guys could take a look at my party and setup and tell me what I'm doing wrong so I can crack this thing...
Beatrix, Lv. 99. Abilities: Earthbringer Rk. 1, Gaia's Cross Rk. 1 - Legend Materia - Undying Loyalty, First Paladin - Record Materia: Veteran General. Soul Breaks: Seiken Climhazzard (Overstrike), Knight Protector (Burst), Sword of the Clear Mind (Super), Blessed Cure (Default). Accessory: Black Belt (FF6, +20 ATK)
Papalymo, Lv. 99. Abilities: Meteor Rk. 2, Ultima Rk. 2 - No Legend Materia - Record Materia: Sharlayan Thaumaturge. Soul Breaks: Flareja (Overstrike), Enochian Firaga (Burst), Lethargy (Default). Accessory: Reynn's Belt (Beyond, +30 MAG)
Penelo, Lv. 99. Abilities: Holy Rk. 3, Curaga Rk. 2 - No Legend Materia - Record Materia: Desert Bloom. Soul Breaks: Evanescence (Burst), Intercession (Super), Healing Step (Default). Accessory: Ring of Renewal (FFXII, +20 MND)
Other possible members: Tidus Lv. 91, Rydia Lv. 83, Terra Lv. 81, Keeper Lv. 80.
As far as abilities, well, if I can make it without a Nightmare record, I think I can just outright make it.
As far as RWs, I tend to go with earth damage to try and knock him down faster, but this thing is built like a damned tank and the last one I pulled only did like 16k a shot... I'm honestly out of ideas: I know I need a better heal of some kind, but I'm not seeing one outside of a Soul Break. I can keep up as long as he doesn't bust out the group attacks- if two Breath attacks show up one after the other, I'm more boned than usual. Any ideas would be welcome, I'm just rather frustrated at the moment.
SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
You need to read up on the fundamentals of team building.
For an orthodox (read: non-blink/guts spamming) team composition, you need to bring basically -all- of:
Wall (from Tyro or Y'shtola)
Hastega
a Boostga or Faithga depending on who your damage dealers are (50% ATK from Shout or OK pUSB for pure physical typically, 30% MAG from any number of SBs, a 30/30 ATK/MAG if you're using a hybrid party)
Protectga and/or Shellga depending on who specifically you're fighting (many fights you need both, some fights you can get by with only one)
Breakdowns or Dances from someone until you finally reach content that is immune to breaks
The easiest way to comp these days is to use your RW on the new Godwall (Tyro USB3), bring some kind of buffer that has a SB that does a Boostga/Faithga with the Mako Might or Dr. Mog's Teaching Materia, have that buff probably also carry the breaks or dances, then that gives you space on your team for your Healer (best Cure+some utility ability) and 2-3 DPS.
If you have absolutely no one that does a party Boostga or Faithga, you pretty much HAVE to bring a Bard now (even one without SBs) and get it from abilities.
Recommendation: go to this website, select "Divine Veil Grimoire" from the dropdown, then add twenty or thirty of the resulting friend codes. I find that that is the correct RW to take in 90% of cases. A couple other good options you can play around with for some variety are "Hyper Mighty G" or "Culinary Curiosity". If you happen to own Divine Veil Grimoire, Sentinel Grimoire, and/or Stoneskin II, you can also look into RWing "Forbidden Power" or "Forbidden Wisdom."
And to reiterate what several folks have already said, you pretty much always want to give someone RM Dr. Mog's Teachings and another person RM Mako Might. Use those to start fights with one or two buffing SBs active, or to start your healer with a healing SB ready to go.
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
I think it's just Beatrix and Pecil's that are trap RLMs. Orlandeau's is a dualcast, Basch's is a start-with-Enholy, and Ramza's lets him roll out one of of his top-tier support SBs before antying else happens in a fight. And even then, Beatrix and Pecils's LMRs are +holy equipment.
Finally got around to figuring out how to do Isgebind, so I'll be farming that for a while. Krile Chain+LD, Papalymo BSB+LD, Edge SSB+LD, Onion BSB, Yuna BSB2. Followed a setup I found on reddit that involves casting the chain on turn 1, and Onion entrusting one Meltdown's worth of meter to Yuna on turn 3. Pretty consistent sub-30 as long as I get at least a few doublecasts.
Quick opinions on holy pickup banner:
Amazeballs: Orlandu USB, Beatrix USB
Usable, but can be outclassed: Basch USB, Pecil USB, Ramza BSB2, Beatrix BSB2, Basch BSB
Not especially good: Orlandu BSB, Pecil BSB2
Good LMRs: Orlandu, Ramza, Basch
Lame LMRs: Pecil, Beatrix
Ramza BSB2 is actually pretty weak right now, the combo with the LMR is the only thing it has going for it. It'll be a lot better in another couple months when Ramza gets buffed to Knight 5 and can actually make solid use of the holy aura.
I'm going to try to shake loose Dr. Mog's today, and I think I also need to knock loose Mako Might, too. I'll try that and take another crack at Tiamat with an actual setup team instead of just bull-rushing the damage.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
I'm going to try to shake loose Dr. Mog's today, and I think I also need to knock loose Mako Might, too. I'll try that and take another crack at Tiamat with an actual setup team instead of just bull-rushing the damage.
If you're doing that, you might as well go get Ace Striker and Battleforged also if you don't have them yet. One of those on your healer is one of the top picks and the other may see usage on either a dedicated Entrust or even just normally on a Support anyway.
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
Also get Amarants start with last stand RM in case you want to dive any trance characters
Hades and Siren really feel like they're a bit too much. I figured Marche USB and TGC OSB would get me somewhere, but Hades shits out so much damage while also making you work around his stupid status spam. I'll try these again later when I have even more stuff I guess.
I actually have Ace Striker- I used to keep Tidus in my party from when I started, and at the rate I'm shaking loose growth eggs from renewals, I ought to be able to knock Battleforged loose, too.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
Really wish they randomly gave a set if you didn't pick in that gift pull.
I kinda want to throw one pull at the XIII-1 banner, but I'm not sure if Raines USB, Nabaat USB, or Hope USB would be all that useful if I got them. Raines is already so self-sufficient with MM and his BSB that having to either use an Entrust bot or Wrath up two more bars to pop the USB first feels like a DPS loss, even with the chase.
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
Blargh got Hades to invisible pixel at 27ish seconds. Everyone has instant cast from Aphmau, I can do this!
Black Cauldron.
Everyone is Paralyzed. Why game? Why?!
Need to squeeze a little more damage by playing more perfectly I guess.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
I kinda want to throw one pull at the XIII-1 banner, but I'm not sure if Raines USB, Nabaat USB, or Hope USB would be all that useful if I got them. Raines is already so self-sufficient with MM and his BSB that having to either use an Entrust bot or Wrath up two more bars to pop the USB first feels like a DPS loss, even with the chase.
I think it says something when a XIII event hits and literally no one is pulling.
Wow. Look at that Raines USB. Meshes almost perfectly with his BSB. I hope it comes back some day, as I'm totally tapped out for myth.
The only thing I have against it is that you have to either spend three more turns Wrathing and casting the BSB or Entrust him. That said you do gain two turns by not having to use his C2 bargain or Memento Mori.
The chase is almost as strong as his C1, and since his C1 is instant that's a pretty powerful boost in damage. At a rough guess it looks to be a 30-40% DPS boost once you start C1 chaining.
So it took a second set of water ninja abilities (RIP ice orbs), but I'm now sub-30 Marilis (with good dualcast luck, but with room to tighten by swapping some stuff around). With no chain, no Tidus, no Bart, no Yuffie USB, no Yuffie LD.
Typing whole thing out on phone is a pain, key pieces: OK pUSB, Edge BSB + LD, Yuffie BSB (instant imperil, not +water) + Glint, Penelo USB.
And then after typing all that out I realized Shadow with dualcast would obviously still be better, swapped him in, and got 26s first try.
So anyway, Marilis, Ixion, Siren all sub 30. 5 to go, but fire crystals are a USEFUL one, so that's nice.
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1/11 beatrix lmr.
i hate this game so much.
Spent the rest of my mythril. 1/11 Basch bsb 1/11 orlandeau bsb.
Uninstalled for a few days. 17 pulls for 2 6*s in the last month. I just need a fucking holy item to go with fucking marche to get fucking hades fuck. my last like 8 pulls have been 1/11 no 6*.
FF14 Renewal 100 gems: 4* blah
Holy pickup 100 gems: Basch USB. Three Four Six is not how counting usually works, but I'll take it this time!
Data for posterity:
31/249 lifetime
12/89 this batch
9/65 last batch (0.1 items below EV, which is pretty much exactly expected return, though quite a few duds even on my hits)
Note to self: No whining, Rikku USB, never forget. Also Cloud BSB2, Mustadio USB, Water Chain (dupe), Seymour Chain, Basch USB.
Or just go full backline, depending on who you're trying to use.
I'm attempting the 140-difficulty Tiamat fight in the Reraise nightmare record. I'm not caring about getting a high rating, it's just that this guy has been a right pain in the butt for long enough and I need more good abilities so I can start moving on.
My only problem is that I can get him down to about 40% HP, but after all of that, I'm getting outclassed on damage. I was wondering if you guys could take a look at my party and setup and tell me what I'm doing wrong so I can crack this thing...
Details of party beneath spoiler:
Yuffie, Lv. 99. Abilities: Shifting Sands Rk. 1, Desert Mirage Rk. 1 - Legend Materia: Finders Keepers - Record Materia: Master of Shadows. Soul Breaks: Freewheeling Bloodfest (AOSB), Greased Lightning (Default).
Accessory: Bracer (FFT, +20 ATK)
Bartz, Lv. 99. Abilities: Frost Strike Rk. 1, Dismissal Rk. 1 - No Legend Materia - Record Materia: Spellblade Master. Soul Breaks: Trueblade of Legend (Super), Shield Toss (Default). Accessory: Bracer (FFT, +20 ATK)
Beatrix, Lv. 99. Abilities: Earthbringer Rk. 1, Gaia's Cross Rk. 1 - Legend Materia - Undying Loyalty, First Paladin - Record Materia: Veteran General. Soul Breaks: Seiken Climhazzard (Overstrike), Knight Protector (Burst), Sword of the Clear Mind (Super), Blessed Cure (Default). Accessory: Black Belt (FF6, +20 ATK)
Papalymo, Lv. 99. Abilities: Meteor Rk. 2, Ultima Rk. 2 - No Legend Materia - Record Materia: Sharlayan Thaumaturge. Soul Breaks: Flareja (Overstrike), Enochian Firaga (Burst), Lethargy (Default). Accessory: Reynn's Belt (Beyond, +30 MAG)
Penelo, Lv. 99. Abilities: Holy Rk. 3, Curaga Rk. 2 - No Legend Materia - Record Materia: Desert Bloom. Soul Breaks: Evanescence (Burst), Intercession (Super), Healing Step (Default). Accessory: Ring of Renewal (FFXII, +20 MND)
Other possible members: Tidus Lv. 91, Rydia Lv. 83, Terra Lv. 81, Keeper Lv. 80.
As far as abilities, well, if I can make it without a Nightmare record, I think I can just outright make it.
As far as RWs, I tend to go with earth damage to try and knock him down faster, but this thing is built like a damned tank and the last one I pulled only did like 16k a shot... I'm honestly out of ideas: I know I need a better heal of some kind, but I'm not seeing one outside of a Soul Break. I can keep up as long as he doesn't bust out the group attacks- if two Breath attacks show up one after the other, I'm more boned than usual. Any ideas would be welcome, I'm just rather frustrated at the moment.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Basically, RW Tyro USB3 on turn 1.
The whole thing will seem worlds easier.
For an orthodox (read: non-blink/guts spamming) team composition, you need to bring basically -all- of:
Wall (from Tyro or Y'shtola)
Hastega
a Boostga or Faithga depending on who your damage dealers are (50% ATK from Shout or OK pUSB for pure physical typically, 30% MAG from any number of SBs, a 30/30 ATK/MAG if you're using a hybrid party)
Protectga and/or Shellga depending on who specifically you're fighting (many fights you need both, some fights you can get by with only one)
Breakdowns or Dances from someone until you finally reach content that is immune to breaks
The easiest way to comp these days is to use your RW on the new Godwall (Tyro USB3), bring some kind of buffer that has a SB that does a Boostga/Faithga with the Mako Might or Dr. Mog's Teaching Materia, have that buff probably also carry the breaks or dances, then that gives you space on your team for your Healer (best Cure+some utility ability) and 2-3 DPS.
If you have absolutely no one that does a party Boostga or Faithga, you pretty much HAVE to bring a Bard now (even one without SBs) and get it from abilities.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Recommendation: go to this website, select "Divine Veil Grimoire" from the dropdown, then add twenty or thirty of the resulting friend codes. I find that that is the correct RW to take in 90% of cases. A couple other good options you can play around with for some variety are "Hyper Mighty G" or "Culinary Curiosity". If you happen to own Divine Veil Grimoire, Sentinel Grimoire, and/or Stoneskin II, you can also look into RWing "Forbidden Power" or "Forbidden Wisdom."
And to reiterate what several folks have already said, you pretty much always want to give someone RM Dr. Mog's Teachings and another person RM Mako Might. Use those to start fights with one or two buffing SBs active, or to start your healer with a healing SB ready to go.
There's a bunch of busted awesome stuff. Most of the LMRs are junk though.
Quick opinions on holy pickup banner:
Amazeballs: Orlandu USB, Beatrix USB
Usable, but can be outclassed: Basch USB, Pecil USB, Ramza BSB2, Beatrix BSB2, Basch BSB
Not especially good: Orlandu BSB, Pecil BSB2
Good LMRs: Orlandu, Ramza, Basch
Lame LMRs: Pecil, Beatrix
Ramza BSB2 is actually pretty weak right now, the combo with the LMR is the only thing it has going for it. It'll be a lot better in another couple months when Ramza gets buffed to Knight 5 and can actually make solid use of the holy aura.
This means when I get around to doing Tiamat I'm going to get nothing but the defensive magicite, doesn't it.
Probably, but at least Sylph has Fast Act, that you could use the spares to inherit into another magicite?
Face punched.
Literally 6 1/11s with no 6*.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
I can has cheezburger, yes?
38thDoE on steam
Email them. It said you would get one randomly, so maybe there's an error/delay?
FFT Renewal 100 gems: 3* blah
FF13-1 100 gems: Hope LMR. Okay I guess? Initial EnHoly, and it's +Holy MAG Light Armor.
Data for posterity:
32/252 lifetime
13/92 this batch
9/65 last batch (0.1 items below EV, which is pretty much exactly expected return, though quite a few duds even on my hits)
Note to self: No whining, Rikku USB, never forget. Also Cloud BSB2, Mustadio USB, Water Chain (dupe), Seymour Chain, Basch USB.
Black Cauldron.
Everyone is Paralyzed. Why game? Why?!
Need to squeeze a little more damage by playing more perfectly I guess.
The only thing I have against it is that you have to either spend three more turns Wrathing and casting the BSB or Entrust him. That said you do gain two turns by not having to use his C2 bargain or Memento Mori.
The chase is almost as strong as his C1, and since his C1 is instant that's a pretty powerful boost in damage. At a rough guess it looks to be a 30-40% DPS boost once you start C1 chaining.
Typing whole thing out on phone is a pain, key pieces: OK pUSB, Edge BSB + LD, Yuffie BSB (instant imperil, not +water) + Glint, Penelo USB.
And then after typing all that out I realized Shadow with dualcast would obviously still be better, swapped him in, and got 26s first try.
So anyway, Marilis, Ixion, Siren all sub 30. 5 to go, but fire crystals are a USEFUL one, so that's nice.