So I just started getting back into this game after a year and I'm still catching up on all the changes.
The impact of no Mercy mass resurrect is pretty huge though. So many teams in comp running Zarya + Hanzo and it feels like there's very limited counterplay these days to that ult combo. DVa appears to not heave nearly the uptime on her defense matrix that she used to, so mostly you need to have Zenyatta or...just a bunch of heros that can individually escape/survive the grav (Mei, Tracer, I forget if Rein can charge out, can Roadhog heal through it?)
Yes of course the team should not be as grouped when there's a Zarya on the field but I'm just one solo dude and can't really enforce that. So is Zenyatta basically mandatory on 2CP defense now? Am I forgetting some other abilities that can counter this combo?
Grav got buffed and nerfed - it behaves a bit differently.
The buff: Only 3 things can escape grav right now : Reaper can wraith form out, Moira can fade out, and Sym can teleport herself and her team out.
Rein's charge, Genji's dash, Tracer's blink and recall, Mercy's guardian angel and Winston's leap no longer allow them to escape.
Also, Zarya loses energy a little slower, so she gets it faster.
The nerf: its size is a little smaller.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
So I just started getting back into this game after a year and I'm still catching up on all the changes.
The impact of no Mercy mass resurrect is pretty huge though. So many teams in comp running Zarya + Hanzo and it feels like there's very limited counterplay these days to that ult combo. DVa appears to not heave nearly the uptime on her defense matrix that she used to, so mostly you need to have Zenyatta or...just a bunch of heros that can individually escape/survive the grav (Mei, Tracer, I forget if Rein can charge out, can Roadhog heal through it?)
Yes of course the team should not be as grouped when there's a Zarya on the field but I'm just one solo dude and can't really enforce that. So is Zenyatta basically mandatory on 2CP defense now? Am I forgetting some other abilities that can counter this combo?
Grav got buffed and nerfed - it behaves a bit differently.
The buff: Only 3 things can escape grav right now : Reaper can wraith form out, Moira can fade out, and Sym can teleport herself and her team out.
Rein's charge, Genji's dash, Tracer's blink and recall, Mercy's guardian angel and Winston's leap no longer allow them to escape.
Also, Zarya loses energy a little slower, so she gets it faster.
The nerf: its size is a little smaller.
Don't forget Orisa just walking out of grav like a boss!
Mei can wall her team out of the dragon and Grav's radius just got nerfed, but yes Hanzo/Zarya v Zen was The Meta for a while recently. They even nerfed Dragonstrike so that it can't be damage boosted, which would make it out-damage trance.
I’m fairly certain Mei wall does not work.
Ed: Oh you mean raise her team up above it? I’ve never tried that!
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Mei can wall her team out of the dragon and Grav's radius just got nerfed, but yes Hanzo/Zarya v Zen was The Meta for a while recently. They even nerfed Dragonstrike so that it can't be damage boosted, which would make it out-damage trance.
I’m fairly certain Mei wall does not work.
Ed: Oh you mean raise her team up above it? I’ve never tried that!
That can actually work.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
It works if you get lucky, but half the time the dragon just ends up being high enough to murder your feet anyway
Wall's real good at blocking Doomfist's ult, though!
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
So, I got really lucky on legendary drops. Kind of. I got the event rein and winston, which I did not really want and seem kind of silly, but okay. I mean winston's weapon is the bat bag? With a bat on it? It's very distracting.
And then I got 3 non-event legendaries, 2 of which were in the same box!! All in a row! You're killing me with this stuff blizz. On the bright side I now have both genji sparrow outfits and the second widowmaker ballet one.
I held that car for what must've been 20 seconds or more, by myself, after the rest of the team ran off chasing someone and got wiped. I just kept running circles, juking, using shield on cooldown. I just blew the Ult to try to hold them still so I could run to the other side of the car for cover, when Hanzo finally showed up (because of course we had a Hanzo).
Of course, we still lost. Just like I lost every other match.
I held that car for what must've been 20 seconds or more, by myself, after the rest of the team ran off chasing someone and got wiped. I just kept running circles, juking, using shield on cooldown. I just blew the Ult to try to hold them still so I could run to the other side of the car for cover, when Hanzo finally showed up (because of course we had a Hanzo).
Of course, we still lost. Just like I lost every other match.
>.< that sucks dude. I don't think I've ever had a loss streak like that. Good Zaryaing, tho! It's really hard to be effective with her without teammates around.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
It always feels great when your team is complaining about healing only to find out you healed 40% of dmg taken. And then still complained because they're fucking idiots.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
I give major respek for the dude who took the time to make the Spotify's (Reinhardt's is great and Ana's is extremely solid that's my girl), but McCree's doesn't have America Fuck Yeah!, any of Morricone's western scores, or something like James Taylor's Mexico with a real lack of Johnny Paycheck or Kenny Rogers in the mix.
And I delcare shenanigans on DvA's; it gets points for Twice but only has one Girls' Generation and KARA song, no IU (who feels like the person DvA was based on), BoA, Wonder Girls, Brown Eyed Girls or AOA or After School/Orange Caramel I literally can't even
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KoopahTroopahThe koopas, the troopas.Philadelphia, PARegistered Userregular
It always feels great when your team is complaining about healing only to find out you healed 40% of dmg taken. And then still complained because they're fucking idiots.
On the flip side, I get an earful every time I pull out my pistol as mercy to deal with a baby D'va or a Tracer killing our back line because my front line has tunnel vision on killing everything in front of them. I'd say 90% of the time, this happens:
Why aren't you healing me Mercy? There's a Tracer killing our back line, I went to kill her first. Well heal me and I'll kill her. No, you won't. She will kill me, you might kill her, and then the rest of their team will kill you because you have no healer. Just let me take the 3-5 seconds to kill her and then heal you after, so we are both alive for the actual team fight. You're an idiot. Cool, muted.
It always feels great when your team is complaining about healing only to find out you healed 40% of dmg taken. And then still complained because they're fucking idiots.
On the flip side, I get an earful every time I pull out my pistol as mercy to deal with a baby D'va or a Tracer killing our back line because my front line has tunnel vision on killing everything in front of them. I'd say 90% of the time, this happens:
Why aren't you healing me Mercy? There's a Tracer killing our back line, I went to kill her first. Well heal me and I'll kill her. No, you won't. She will kill me, you might kill her, and then the rest of their team will kill you because you have no healer. Just let me take the 3-5 seconds to kill her and then heal you after, so we are both alive for the actual team fight. You're an idiot. Cool, muted.
Yeah, pretty much. I had a 3 stack last game that let a tracer run around uncontested the entire match. I eventually switched off Zen to Lucio just so I could boop her away since my asks for peel got flamed, and then got flamed for sucking and being an idiot.
It's basically lose/lose to play support right now. You get shit no matter what you do, even when you carrying the match.
I have the opposite experience. People tend to rally around their supports regardless. Unless you are Valking with your pistol out exclusively or going battle Mercy against Roadhog people tend to give you some latitude.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Yeah I've been playing support more just because I saw I have almost 150 hours as McCree and sort of need to not make his playtime bar be so powerful (closest is Junkrat at like 50), so I've been the healer and damn I always need to check myself from spamming a passive aggressive "Thanks!" when my team whiffs at any sense of defending the healers/snipers.
I've noticed Tracer has been sneaking back to be a back line menace and people just ignore her like they do Symmetra's new turrets.
I have the opposite experience. People tend to rally around their supports regardless. Unless you are Valking with your pistol out exclusively or going battle Mercy against Roadhog people tend to give you some latitude.
I basically have solo diving DF and Hamsters bitching about no healing and people being straight up dicks because I'm not pocketing them 100% of the time.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
I legit want Doomfist to only be playable if you pass some obstacle course of killing targets in the practice range, sort of like getting licenses in Gran Turismo.
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The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
I just never expect to get healed mid-fight. That way, if it does happen, it's a pleasant surprise!
I legit want Doomfist to only be playable if you pass some obstacle course of killing targets in the practice range, sort of like getting licenses in Gran Turismo.
Joking aside, I genuinely want obstacle course minigames so I can Doomfist better. And don't get me started on Hammond. Hell, every character could use one.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
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Element BrianPeanut Butter ShillRegistered Userregular
i dont have time to edit these into one fancy video, so instead i present to you a short story comprised of 3 clips
I mean seriously though, you shouldn't be trying to kill Tracer as Mercy, unless she's a hit or two away from death.
you're almost never going to win against a Tracer who knows what she's doing, and against a Tracer bad enough to lose a 1v1 vs a Mercy she's not enough of a threat to worry about.
Just use your mobility to get away and escape, if your teammates don't peel for you right away then fly and get yourself to the other side, use them as involuntary meatshields. it only takes 1 second of not taking damage to start Mercy' s self heal. It should be a nightmare for Tracer to even keep up with you.
also for real, mercy' s shooting posture only makes it easier to hit you. shooting back is just inviting getting picked.
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A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
It always feels great when your team is complaining about healing only to find out you healed 40% of dmg taken. And then still complained because they're fucking idiots.
On the flip side, I get an earful every time I pull out my pistol as mercy to deal with a baby D'va or a Tracer killing our back line because my front line has tunnel vision on killing everything in front of them. I'd say 90% of the time, this happens:
Why aren't you healing me Mercy? There's a Tracer killing our back line, I went to kill her first. Well heal me and I'll kill her. No, you won't. She will kill me, you might kill her, and then the rest of their team will kill you because you have no healer. Just let me take the 3-5 seconds to kill her and then heal you after, so we are both alive for the actual team fight. You're an idiot. Cool, muted.
This is the correct thing to do - don't listen to them.
I mean seriously though, you shouldn't be trying to kill Tracer as Mercy, unless she's a hit or two away from death.
you're almost never going to win against a Tracer who knows what she's doing, and against a Tracer bad enough to lose a 1v1 vs a Mercy she's not enough of a threat to worry about.
Just use your mobility to get away and escape, if your teammates don't peel for you right away then fly and get yourself to the other side, use them as involuntary meatshields. it only takes 1 second of not taking damage to start Mercy' s self heal. It should be a nightmare for Tracer to even keep up with you.
also for real, mercy' s shooting posture only makes it easier to hit you. shooting back is just inviting getting picked.
Nope. No. Newwp. Don't get me wrong - the body-blocking strat is legit - but often what's on the other side of that friend you want to fly to is a pack of enemies who'll finish off what the Tracer started.
Unless you can GA to high ground where the Tracer can't easily follow, she can burn one or two blinks to catch up with you and finish the job - buuut the one second it takes your regen to kick in is precisely as long as the one second it takes Tracer to reload her guns after that last clip. If she doesn't instantly reacquire you and empty the next clip, you can definitely slip away or just make her waste thirty seconds chasing you around as you survive her attempts to kill you.
Running can totally work, don't get me wrong - but whipping around and pulling your pistol generally is the correct solution, in my experience. Mercy's pistol is actually excellent against Tracer - the large hurtbox of her shots are easy to land, and eight shots - less than half Mercy's clip - is all it would take to kill her.
One landed shot reduces a Tracer to 120 - a frankly uncomfortable number, leaving her in danger of being one-shot with a body shot by Hanzo, Widow, Junk and Sym. Three will put her at half HP.
Even if you don't kill her, three landed shots will make a Tracer fuck right off, blow their recall or run for a health pack - while you can return to your team and keep an eye out. You don't need to kill her, you just need to tell her to piss off in no uncertain terms. She definitely has an advantage in a duel, but that often comes with enough arrogance to leave themselves open to eating four headshots - which is a dead Tracer in less than a second.
There are Mercies you don't want to fuck with, and they don't establish that by GA away behind their Hog.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
Wha?
You on Mercy plus Winston, D.Va, 76, Rein, Zen, Orisa = 7 players.
But w/e the tribulations of playing Mercy. It's largely thankless and a good reason to vent.
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
Wha?
You on Mercy plus Winston, D.Va, 76, Rein, Zen, Orisa = 7 players.
But w/e the tribulations of playing Mercy. It's largely thankless and a good reason to vent.
Those were from all different games. Just the most recent things I can remember. Man i woulda switched after the first 2 complaints lol.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
Wha?
You on Mercy plus Winston, D.Va, 76, Rein, Zen, Orisa = 7 players.
But w/e the tribulations of playing Mercy. It's largely thankless and a good reason to vent.
Those were from all different games. Just the most recent things I can remember. Man i woulda switched after the first 2 complaints lol.
yeh I know. Just explaining that he indicated 7 players and you were like wha and I said 'cause you said 7 and I - anyway, that crap's why I keep coms off. Unless my brother peer pressures me into it. If I'm healin' you all I need to hear is "help me" or "thank you" lol
So, who else here has also played a lotta' Souls games?
'Chance, you are the best kind of whore.' -Henroid
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Ninja Snarl PMy helmet is my burden.Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered Userregular
edited August 2018
Actually some decent games tonight... except for the damn Genjis. Wouldn't have been so bad except they were double-countered every damn time. The best one was a guy who insisted on having us carry him as Genji all match, he finally switches to McCree in the next round to counter their Pharah, we get stuck briefly, and he switches right back to Genji and gets stomped repeatedly.
And holy shit does Moira need that ult cooldown time increased, that thing recharges way too damn fast for something that gets to punch through barriers. Zen's ult takes a fuckload longer to charge, and it can't even deal damage to the enemy.
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Getting back into this a little bit and I’m curious to hear how people generally feel about the matchmaking. How’s the consensus about how it lines up with other games of this nature?
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the s76 sitting behind the Orisa shield with the other 3 DPS.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
Wha?
You on Mercy plus Winston, D.Va, 76, Rein, Zen, Orisa = 7 players.
But w/e the tribulations of playing Mercy. It's largely thankless and a good reason to vent.
I see picking Mercy as like the War Games quote: "An interesting game. The only winning move is not to play."
And holy shit does Moira need that ult cooldown time increased, that thing recharges way too damn fast for something that gets to punch through barriers. Zen's ult takes a fuckload longer to charge, and it can't even deal damage to the enemy.
See these are the kinds of useless comparisons that trigger me. "X can do Y but Z can't half-Y!"
Moira's ult charges faster because 1 Coalescence is shit compared to 1 Transcendence. That's the only important comparison.
Half the time I just ignore Coalescence, but you can't often ignore the fact that Zen has made all his friends basically immune to anything short of instant kill effects.
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Grav got buffed and nerfed - it behaves a bit differently.
The buff: Only 3 things can escape grav right now : Reaper can wraith form out, Moira can fade out, and Sym can teleport herself and her team out.
Rein's charge, Genji's dash, Tracer's blink and recall, Mercy's guardian angel and Winston's leap no longer allow them to escape.
Also, Zarya loses energy a little slower, so she gets it faster.
The nerf: its size is a little smaller.
Don't forget Orisa just walking out of grav like a boss!
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I’m fairly certain Mei wall does not work.
Ed: Oh you mean raise her team up above it? I’ve never tried that!
That can actually work.
Wall's real good at blocking Doomfist's ult, though!
And then I got 3 non-event legendaries, 2 of which were in the same box!! All in a row! You're killing me with this stuff blizz. On the bright side I now have both genji sparrow outfits and the second widowmaker ballet one.
I held that car for what must've been 20 seconds or more, by myself, after the rest of the team ran off chasing someone and got wiped. I just kept running circles, juking, using shield on cooldown. I just blew the Ult to try to hold them still so I could run to the other side of the car for cover, when Hanzo finally showed up (because of course we had a Hanzo).
Of course, we still lost. Just like I lost every other match.
>.< that sucks dude. I don't think I've ever had a loss streak like that. Good Zaryaing, tho! It's really hard to be effective with her without teammates around.
Very very very good playlists.
https://thegamehaus.com/yes-there-are-spotify-playlists-tailored-to-each-overwatch-hero/2018/08/15/
I feel like Reaper's is a cheap shot though.
Tracer's ain't bad but yeah also kinda'... Well, no, I'm enjoying it.
Edit: meh okay these choices are kinda' one-dimensional. Besides there's other stuff that really should be listened to, today.
Edit edit: still an awesome project, though!
Why am I naked.
You’re in her reality now
And I delcare shenanigans on DvA's; it gets points for Twice but only has one Girls' Generation and KARA song, no IU (who feels like the person DvA was based on), BoA, Wonder Girls, Brown Eyed Girls or AOA or After School/Orange Caramel I literally can't even
On the flip side, I get an earful every time I pull out my pistol as mercy to deal with a baby D'va or a Tracer killing our back line because my front line has tunnel vision on killing everything in front of them. I'd say 90% of the time, this happens:
Why aren't you healing me Mercy?
There's a Tracer killing our back line, I went to kill her first.
Well heal me and I'll kill her.
No, you won't. She will kill me, you might kill her, and then the rest of their team will kill you because you have no healer. Just let me take the 3-5 seconds to kill her and then heal you after, so we are both alive for the actual team fight.
You're an idiot.
Cool, muted.
Yeah, pretty much. I had a 3 stack last game that let a tracer run around uncontested the entire match. I eventually switched off Zen to Lucio just so I could boop her away since my asks for peel got flamed, and then got flamed for sucking and being an idiot.
It's basically lose/lose to play support right now. You get shit no matter what you do, even when you carrying the match.
I've noticed Tracer has been sneaking back to be a back line menace and people just ignore her like they do Symmetra's new turrets.
I basically have solo diving DF and Hamsters bitching about no healing and people being straight up dicks because I'm not pocketing them 100% of the time.
And then getting blamed for there being fires in the first place.
"Oh, hey, I'm getting heals! Let's get serious!" is basically my favorite moment of any game when it happens.
Joking aside, I genuinely want obstacle course minigames so I can Doomfist better. And don't get me started on Hammond. Hell, every character could use one.
Problem is when they get healed in a safe position, then assume that I'm going to fly with them to the center of the enemy team. Uh, no.
"Mercy you need to heal me." Says the Dva who got POTG in which the screen is littered with yellow +'s.
"Mercy you need to stay alive." Says the Orisa who I was healing but didn't bother to get the 2 flankers off me.
"Left mouse click heals, Mercy." Says the Winston after I had to kill the backlining tracer who just killed our Genji, Zen, and was then focusing on me.
"Why does it feel like we have only 1 healer?" Says the Zen who never used his alt the whole game.
"Report our Mercy for throwing." Says the Rein who charged into the enemy spawn while 3 of the enemies were pushing the cart.
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Arch,
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you're almost never going to win against a Tracer who knows what she's doing, and against a Tracer bad enough to lose a 1v1 vs a Mercy she's not enough of a threat to worry about.
Just use your mobility to get away and escape, if your teammates don't peel for you right away then fly and get yourself to the other side, use them as involuntary meatshields. it only takes 1 second of not taking damage to start Mercy' s self heal. It should be a nightmare for Tracer to even keep up with you.
also for real, mercy' s shooting posture only makes it easier to hit you. shooting back is just inviting getting picked.
Doomfist's is an utter blast. Sombra's has too much low-hanging fruit in the middle but it gets better in the final third.
This is the correct thing to do - don't listen to them.
>.< I wish I could land Hanzo shots like that. For some reason I'm only decent with Zen, Orisa & Mercy projectiles.
Nope. No. Newwp. Don't get me wrong - the body-blocking strat is legit - but often what's on the other side of that friend you want to fly to is a pack of enemies who'll finish off what the Tracer started.
Unless you can GA to high ground where the Tracer can't easily follow, she can burn one or two blinks to catch up with you and finish the job - buuut the one second it takes your regen to kick in is precisely as long as the one second it takes Tracer to reload her guns after that last clip. If she doesn't instantly reacquire you and empty the next clip, you can definitely slip away or just make her waste thirty seconds chasing you around as you survive her attempts to kill you.
Running can totally work, don't get me wrong - but whipping around and pulling your pistol generally is the correct solution, in my experience. Mercy's pistol is actually excellent against Tracer - the large hurtbox of her shots are easy to land, and eight shots - less than half Mercy's clip - is all it would take to kill her.
One landed shot reduces a Tracer to 120 - a frankly uncomfortable number, leaving her in danger of being one-shot with a body shot by Hanzo, Widow, Junk and Sym. Three will put her at half HP.
Even if you don't kill her, three landed shots will make a Tracer fuck right off, blow their recall or run for a health pack - while you can return to your team and keep an eye out. You don't need to kill her, you just need to tell her to piss off in no uncertain terms. She definitely has an advantage in a duel, but that often comes with enough arrogance to leave themselves open to eating four headshots - which is a dead Tracer in less than a second.
There are Mercies you don't want to fuck with, and they don't establish that by GA away behind their Hog.
I wouldn't mind snark if I got to play with 7 player teams.
Wha?
You on Mercy plus Winston, D.Va, 76, Rein, Zen, Orisa = 7 players.
But w/e the tribulations of playing Mercy. It's largely thankless and a good reason to vent.
Those were from all different games. Just the most recent things I can remember. Man i woulda switched after the first 2 complaints lol.
yeh I know. Just explaining that he indicated 7 players and you were like wha and I said 'cause you said 7 and I - anyway, that crap's why I keep coms off. Unless my brother peer pressures me into it. If I'm healin' you all I need to hear is "help me" or "thank you" lol
So, who else here has also played a lotta' Souls games?
And holy shit does Moira need that ult cooldown time increased, that thing recharges way too damn fast for something that gets to punch through barriers. Zen's ult takes a fuckload longer to charge, and it can't even deal damage to the enemy.
I see picking Mercy as like the War Games quote: "An interesting game. The only winning move is not to play."
See these are the kinds of useless comparisons that trigger me. "X can do Y but Z can't half-Y!"
Moira's ult charges faster because 1 Coalescence is shit compared to 1 Transcendence. That's the only important comparison.
Half the time I just ignore Coalescence, but you can't often ignore the fact that Zen has made all his friends basically immune to anything short of instant kill effects.
hAmmONd IsnT A mAin TAnk