How does a Warlord Titan compare in size to a 40k Questoris Knight? Are they close enough to swap bits or even be a kitbashed / conversion away from a stand-in?
I love how that thing looks but not really interested in Adeptus Titanicus
The Warlords are going to stand a bit shorter from the 40k Knights, and I'd venture that the parts are not swappable directly without some decent conversion work.
The back of the box had a "actual model size" picture once built.
A lot bigger than a dreadnought, unless the Colonel has some really strange hand proportions. A knight stands eight inches, a handspan like that should be 5-6ish. A Primaris dreadnought comes in somewhere near 4 inches, while a standard dread is closer to 2.
I got the email for the Space Wolf stuff one thing stood out to me
The Waterslides as my brother went yes finally the dancing wolf!
Just I am kind of dismayed they don't have it yet on the website
So I wonder anyone getting it would be willing to part with the dancing wolf part of the sheet?
Dancing wolves? Do you mean the wolves rampant?
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A lot bigger than a dreadnought, unless the Colonel has some really strange hand proportions. A knight stands eight inches, a handspan like that should be 5-6ish. A Primaris dreadnought comes in somewhere near 4 inches, while a standard dread is closer to 2.
I suppose I hadn't actually handled a classic dreadnought in awhile, man they are a lot shorter than I remember.
I got the email for the Space Wolf stuff one thing stood out to me
The Waterslides as my brother went yes finally the dancing wolf!
Just I am kind of dismayed they don't have it yet on the website
So I wonder anyone getting it would be willing to part with the dancing wolf part of the sheet?
Dancing wolves? Do you mean the wolves rampant?
Yes just I know it as the dancing wolf
As in the static view of it. It's kind of dancing
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What is the ground/model scale for Titanicus? I can't seem to find this crucial piece of info.
AT scale is "How do we sell Epic but make people buy new models from us instead of using the ancient collections they have had sitting in their garages for a decade, or buying an army dirt cheap off of ebay, or buying an army from the myriad of recasters".
The new scale being larger does mean that they can make more detailed models, which I will admit is pretty nice.
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The scale makes sense if you look at what they're trying to do with it. I've mentioned a couple of times about my old epic army and the titan legion I had. The knights were about the size of a skaven clan rat. Warhounds were a little smaller than a space marine. Even when you got up to an Imperator, the detail was pretty meager, with the height of a dreadnought but a lot less breadth. Sculpting technology has come a real long way since then, but keeping at that scale, you lose a lot of fine detail just because of the scale (the knight's weapons vs the titan's in the side by side pic helps show that).
The scale they chose lets them make really detailed kits while maintaining a 'reasonable' price point.
I'm no carpenter, but every now and then those eyeballing skills the game has taught me come in handy.
I played a lot of 2ed Warmachine at a high tournament level. That was a game where there was no premeasurment but making a mistake with distances could lose you the game there and then. I got real good at getting distances right when eyeballing them.
It’s a useful skill in 8th edition because stopping your opponent to measure something (a heroic intervention range for example) is a huge warning sign.
I got the email for the Space Wolf stuff one thing stood out to me
The Waterslides as my brother went yes finally the dancing wolf!
Just I am kind of dismayed they don't have it yet on the website
So I wonder anyone getting it would be willing to part with the dancing wolf part of the sheet?
they only sell the sheet in europe nowadays unfortunately.
i got, like, three sheets, awhile ago, but it's mine precious.
I got the email for the Space Wolf stuff one thing stood out to me
The Waterslides as my brother went yes finally the dancing wolf!
Just I am kind of dismayed they don't have it yet on the website
So I wonder anyone getting it would be willing to part with the dancing wolf part of the sheet?
they only sell the sheet in europe nowadays unfortunately.
i got, like, three sheets, awhile ago, but it's mine precious.
Really that SUCKS! That's really well annoying as I just cannot get it why did they just lock it off to people in Europe? uhhh I cannot even get it as I tried to order it and it kicked me back to the US site with a big nope nothing here
These new Warlord Traits are official, and completely replace those found in the English versions of Codex: Space Wolves.
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edited August 2018
So Space Wolf warlord traits are fucking auras? There best be some sort of price to be paid elsewhere in the codex because that's one hell of a bit of power creep otherwise.
edit: Admittedly you need to do a thing in game for the aura to kick in, but that's still a major change.
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Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Honestly, I know it's where they make some of their money, but they should just stop printing codexes. 12 months in and there's no printed rules you can use as printed. Just give us a living pdf.
Honestly, I know it's where they make some of their money, but they should just stop printing codexes. 12 months in and there's no printed rules you can use as printed. Just give us a living pdf.
If you buy them electronically this is exactly what they are.
But folks like buying books. I do. I like the feel of a codex in my hands.
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I'm both annoyed with this and pretty whatever. It sucks but they at least let everyone know basically right away and gave the page to us for free.
So GW sent me a tracking # for my codex going to the GW store near me which is cool but now I know it is there, waiting for me to come pick it up and I can't grab it until Saturday.
I want it. I want it now.
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edited August 2018
I was wondering what happened to these actually. They were mentioned in the WarCom article but none of the reviewers seemed to notice this awesome new mechanic…
Heh. Saga of the Warrior Born plus the Armour of Russ = fighting before Slaaneshi daemons when they charge. Awesome.
Oh wow, just re-read the Saga Of Majesty and it is insane once it goes “active” - first, it buffs its own aura to 9" so that’s a 20" bubble of no morale checks. But also any characters in that same boosted bubble get the buff to their own auras. Wow.
Seems like a really good thing you can only have one of these…
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Saga of the Bear is a 6+ FNP whose aura trigger is the warlord making a save. Saga of the Hunter is similarly trivial. At least activating Saga of Majesty requires a bit of work.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
A lot of the best warlord traits were already auras, you just had to put zero work into having them fire.
If anything these space wolf ones seem bad by comparison.
Your warlord needs to make a save? Well I couldn’t target your warlord until we was the closest model anyway, and now I’m definitely just killing everything around him first.
Saga of Majesty is one of those that looks good but I doubt I'll ever actually use it because the trigger is way too situational. I'll probably stick with Saga of the Bear or Hunter, cause at least those you can predict for the most part.
Hunter looks fun because it actually promotes leading from the front. Have you Warlord and units adance, charge with the Warlord and now the other units can also charge. No idea how actually feasible that is.
Saga of the Hunter is going to lead to some hilarious moments sometimes.
Where the whole Space Wolf army advances, ready to charge into close combat. And the leader advances, and charges, and fails the charge, and then flubs the command re-roll, and fails the charge again, and now the entire army can't charge.
I think most of the time it will work just great but those few times when it faceplants, it is going to faceplant comically hard.
Honestly, I know it's where they make some of their money, but they should just stop printing codexes. 12 months in and there's no printed rules you can use as printed. Just give us a living pdf.
If you buy them electronically this is exactly what they are.
But folks like buying books. I do. I like the feel of a codex in my hands.
Surely a wise move would be to include a code in each book for an online version. A nice book a lore and an easy to access online PDF?
Saga of the Bear is a 6+ FNP whose aura trigger is the warlord making a save. Saga of the Hunter is similarly trivial. At least activating Saga of Majesty requires a bit of work.
If your warlord is making saves early though that means they are being shot at which is often not the best thing turn one
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Honestly, I know it's where they make some of their money, but they should just stop printing codexes. 12 months in and there's no printed rules you can use as printed. Just give us a living pdf.
If you buy them electronically this is exactly what they are.
But folks like buying books. I do. I like the feel of a codex in my hands.
Surely a wise move would be to include a code in each book for an online version. A nice book a lore and an easy to access online PDF?
This will never happen as people would resell the code because people are garbage.
The rules are already available for free online for anyone who wants them, 40k rules information piracy is rampant.
IMO Games Workshop should just realize that the people who are buying codices are doing so because they like to physically hold a codex or put one on their bookshelf and should just give the rules away for free on their website, PDFs, a wiki and an army builder. I think they won't see a significant decline in the number of physical codex purchases and it will be easier to keep track of the current state of the rules if you can just trust the army builder to be right.
Corvus Belli does this for Infinity and this model has allowed them, a much smaller company with no big IP draw, to not only survive but grow pretty impressively.
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I got the Grandmaster edition so I'm guessing the large kit. I had enough sprues inside to make 2 of each building the instructions had listed.
I love how that thing looks but not really interested in Adeptus Titanicus
The back of the box had a "actual model size" picture once built.
A lot bigger than a dreadnought, unless the Colonel has some really strange hand proportions. A knight stands eight inches, a handspan like that should be 5-6ish. A Primaris dreadnought comes in somewhere near 4 inches, while a standard dread is closer to 2.
*edit*
Here's a direct comparison.
Dancing wolves? Do you mean the wolves rampant?
I suppose I hadn't actually handled a classic dreadnought in awhile, man they are a lot shorter than I remember.
Even though the models are gorgeous and the rules are great, I still find myself annoyed they went with such a large scale in many ways.
I want them to be more like the scale in red:
Still probably gonna collect the game anyway because I am dumb, but definitely will be a slow grow project for me as a result.
Yes just I know it as the dancing wolf
As in the static view of it. It's kind of dancing
Not 100% sure, but a warlord titan is about 6 inches tall as a miniature and 33 meters tall in the fluff.
If my math is on, that's about 1:217.
That's a weird scale.
I remember Warmaster or whatever it was called before as I wanted certain figures from that as standards tops
AT's scale is just...I get it, but don't get it.
The new scale being larger does mean that they can make more detailed models, which I will admit is pretty nice.
The scale they chose lets them make really detailed kits while maintaining a 'reasonable' price point.
I'm no carpenter, but every now and then those eyeballing skills the game has taught me come in handy.
1:220 is model train scale Z. So it makes at least some sense.
I played a lot of 2ed Warmachine at a high tournament level. That was a game where there was no premeasurment but making a mistake with distances could lose you the game there and then. I got real good at getting distances right when eyeballing them.
It’s a useful skill in 8th edition because stopping your opponent to measure something (a heroic intervention range for example) is a huge warning sign.
they only sell the sheet in europe nowadays unfortunately.
i got, like, three sheets, awhile ago, but it's mine precious.
Really that SUCKS! That's really well annoying as I just cannot get it why did they just lock it off to people in Europe? uhhh I cannot even get it as I tried to order it and it kicked me back to the US site with a big nope nothing here
https://warhammer-community.com/2018/08/21/20th-aug-updated-space-wolves-warlord-traitsgw-homepage-post-2/
edit: Admittedly you need to do a thing in game for the aura to kick in, but that's still a major change.
If you buy them electronically this is exactly what they are.
But folks like buying books. I do. I like the feel of a codex in my hands.
So GW sent me a tracking # for my codex going to the GW store near me which is cool but now I know it is there, waiting for me to come pick it up and I can't grab it until Saturday.
I want it. I want it now.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Heh. Saga of the Warrior Born plus the Armour of Russ = fighting before Slaaneshi daemons when they charge. Awesome.
Oh wow, just re-read the Saga Of Majesty and it is insane once it goes “active” - first, it buffs its own aura to 9" so that’s a 20" bubble of no morale checks. But also any characters in that same boosted bubble get the buff to their own auras. Wow.
Seems like a really good thing you can only have one of these…
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If anything these space wolf ones seem bad by comparison.
Your warlord needs to make a save? Well I couldn’t target your warlord until we was the closest model anyway, and now I’m definitely just killing everything around him first.
Where the whole Space Wolf army advances, ready to charge into close combat. And the leader advances, and charges, and fails the charge, and then flubs the command re-roll, and fails the charge again, and now the entire army can't charge.
I think most of the time it will work just great but those few times when it faceplants, it is going to faceplant comically hard.
Surely a wise move would be to include a code in each book for an online version. A nice book a lore and an easy to access online PDF?
If your warlord is making saves early though that means they are being shot at which is often not the best thing turn one
This will never happen as people would resell the code because people are garbage.
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IMO Games Workshop should just realize that the people who are buying codices are doing so because they like to physically hold a codex or put one on their bookshelf and should just give the rules away for free on their website, PDFs, a wiki and an army builder. I think they won't see a significant decline in the number of physical codex purchases and it will be easier to keep track of the current state of the rules if you can just trust the army builder to be right.
Corvus Belli does this for Infinity and this model has allowed them, a much smaller company with no big IP draw, to not only survive but grow pretty impressively.