And then gnomenapper has a 2-mana assassinate because there's no room for his kidnapped minion!
I can't tell if I was getting unlucky or deck building poorly, but cannoneer took me easily three times as many attempts as any of the 9 dungeon run classes. Lord Gunjerk had unbeatable nuts run after run, the mill boss chewed through my deck before turn 10, gnomenapper's gnome sack shut me down, wisp mass mind control ended more than one run, facenapper came out of nowhere with a turn one charge minion that took out my squire then turned into a 5/6 that started a snowball that I never got an answer for... Then I built the most rickety control deck in history, and somehow fatigued out the three last bosses of the run.
Moral of the story: Wisp mind control can't beat you if you don't have any good minions to steal :templetap:
Tracker 2 wins 24 games
Cannoneer 2 wins 16 games
Houndmaster 1 win 16 games
Toki 2 wins 25 games
Hagatha 2 for 2
Seemed like decent tuning to me. Only boss I'm full of ? for is Gnomenapper.
It'd be interesting to look at everyone's stats after we all finish. I would bet that your Toki score is going to be fewer games than most folks.
And yeah Gnomenapper is really weird. He just wins on his turn 3 if he has his mega CTA in hand.
Tracker and Cannoneer I won on the first try, then had to play again to finish the quests. Toki I lost in the 3rd match on the first try, and then won the 2nd try to exactly clear the quest. Houndmaster still not done after quite a few tries...
I beat it with Toki. My god that last boss was a grind. Fortunately, my deck/build was pretty tuned to counter her hard.
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I went with double starting health (90), spells cost 1 less, Enhance-A-Matic (w/quest), and Spyglass. Those combined effects allowed me to way, way out value Infinite Toki as well as look at her hand at any time. The game ended up going to fatigue after she reset it with her stupid 10-mana card. Neither of us had minions, or they got killed quickly, so I just let her die to fatigue. Easily spent over an hour taking her out.
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i went with the first aid kit, minions cost 1 less, minions +2 health and half price, double-use hero power. i think in retrospect the cheaper minions might even be the wiggle room? it's definitely a value game in the long run.
lucked out by burning (both?) her lifesteal daggers and the lich king. definitely leaned into hunter spells: kill command, flanking strike and animal companion are all incredible for maintaining the board.
i suppose the strategy is just to play all the heroes on curve to get to tess ASAP. as soon as i realised that it became pretty easy, as opposed to fucking around with the shitty red-herring cannon
Meanwhile, on Tess, two runs in a row have made it to the final boss, only to be turn 0 losses due to the most dead-ass fucking opening draws imaginable for me vs. absolutely insane tempo starts for him, followed by getting SMOrced down before I have any hope of stabilizing. Fucking dumb. It's so fucking irritating slogging through the first 7 fights again just to have the exact same non-game scenario play out at the end.
Ha. I went on Asian servers to clear out the quests, and lost on the fourth boss with Tess. And then went eight straight. Cartographer basically won me the nemesis fight. After the "mill self" guy hit the board, 1 mana hero power + cartographer + reduced cost on spells let me mill the deck. Kingsbane was literally the last card.
And then I one shot with Darius. So, I had to go back and clear out two more guys and then lose. Cool. And then I one shot Shaw. So I had to go back and clear out two more guys and then lose. And then I got up to Infinite Toki. I had a treasure that let me switch hands with her. I did. Her hand contained a counter spell. I played that. She played a Vicious Fledgling she got from my hand. My MC Tech snagged it. She cast her restart the game spell. Countered. A few turns later she died to my massive Fledgling. And then I had to go back and kill two bosses with Toki.
So, I figured that I might as well clear out Hagatha, and did, and now my Asian server profile has the card back too.
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I am the unluckiest player. Have tried several runs with all the characters except for toki and I've never even seen the final boss of any of them. I'm getting my packs and never touching this bs again.
First Monster Hunt win with Toki. Special Shout out to that dumb bastard who thought restarting the game was a good idea and gave me so much better RNG rolls that I didn't have to use my hero power :rotate:
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Glinda down. Third time was the charm. And I'll agree her power is super hard to play around, but Shaw's synergy is so great that Glinda was the only boss to beat me (I think).
Finally cleared with Houndmaster, with 81 bosses defeated. This time I went with a swarm deck, tons of deathrattles, with deathrattles trigger on play and +2 attack on hounds as treasures. I almost lost to the boss with the 1 damage hero power that resets on kills... I also struggled with the Face Hunter, since he's playing my deck and so he had a huge supply of minions for his hero power. Glinda also came really close to killing me but then she dropped a Cult Master with a big board of little guys and a full hand so I was able to mill a ton of stuff and then re-take tempo a couple turns later with Sylvanas + Feign Death + Play Dead to steal 3 of her 4 minions, including 2 Cabal Traffickers.
Ugh. I had an unbroken winstreak from 10 straight to the top of 7, and I thought I actually had a chance at rank 5 for the first time ever. But then I had a near-unbroken losing streak straight to the bottom of 8, so I guess it's hopeless. If I spend every waking hour grinding for the next two days and don't get it it'll just burn me out; I might as well just give up.
Ugh. I had an unbroken winstreak from 10 straight to the top of 7, and I thought I actually had a chance at rank 5 for the first time ever. But then I had a near-unbroken losing streak straight to the bottom of 8, so I guess it's hopeless. If I spend every waking hour grinding for the next two days and don't get it it'll just burn me out; I might as well just give up.
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The main problem is that I'm playing Secret Mage and the ladder right now seems to be 35% Odd Rogues (which is an auto-loss) and 35% Even Paladins (which I have a terrible record against lately). Back when I was winning I was seeing a lot of Quest Rogue (which is an auto-win) and Odd Paladin (which is a bit of a crapshoot but can often be won on the back of good Arcane Missiles turns and the like). Doesn't feel like there's a whole lot I can do.
I've never tried the Vex Crow version. I don't really see how it could work...in most matcups that are difficult enough to matter I feel like I wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of still having a board on turn 5+. The biggest problem with the deck is that not a single minion has more than 3 health, so you die real bad to board clear or a bunch of on-curve early taunts. Vex Crow seems like it would only make matters worse. Maybe there's some specific matchup where it makes sense that I'm not seeing.
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I don’t understand the point of Vex Crow if you can’t cast Savage Roar.
It's Piloted Shredder except you trade 1 attack for a bunch more bodies. My understanding is that you aim to go off only when you have Counterspell in play to prevent a board clear response.
I don’t understand the point of Vex Crow if you can’t cast Savage Roar.
Living Mana was pretty good even without being able to cast Savage Roar the next turn.
Right, it was Mark of the Lotus instead. Not as strong as SR but same idea. Mage has never really been a class that can capitalize on a wide board.
Unless you count old giants mage, which isn't really the same thing.
There were plenty of games Living Mana ended without Mark of the Lotus. It's still a five mana 10/10.
And think of it this way: Sure, you don't have Roar, but Fireball + Frostbolt is pretty good at doing what Roar does. Building a big board is just another way to get in the chip damage you need before you can finish them off with burn.
I don’t understand the point of Vex Crow if you can’t cast Savage Roar.
Living Mana was pretty good even without being able to cast Savage Roar the next turn.
Right, it was Mark of the Lotus instead. Not as strong as SR but same idea. Mage has never really been a class that can capitalize on a wide board.
Unless you count old giants mage, which isn't really the same thing.
There were plenty of games Living Mana ended without Mark of the Lotus. It's still a five mana 10/10.
And think of it this way: Sure, you don't have Roar, but Fireball + Frostbolt is pretty good at doing what Roar does. Building a big board is just another way to get in the chip damage you need before you can finish them off with burn.
(or six mana 12/12, seven mana 14/14)
Living Mana has always been an incredibly good spell just by itself. You're putting a ridiculous amount of power on board at the cost of fucking nothing. No downside. You don't give a shit about not having mana the next turn when you've got 10/12/14 power on board.
Sometimes I play fun decks or just finish up quests. During those times, I don't care about my rank that much.
Other times I want to push up the ladder and use meta decks to do so. I watch popular streamers using the best stuff (Spiteful Druid, Cubelock, Aggro Paladin/Rogue, etc) and have absolutely zero results. "You can't lose stars at this rank" has become my theme song. No idea what I'm doing wrong either, just seem to get bad match-ups, horrible draws, or simply outplayed. So strange and frustrating.
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Tracker 2 wins 24 games
Cannoneer 2 wins 16 games
Houndmaster 1 win 16 games
Toki 2 wins 25 games
Hagatha 2 for 2
Seemed like decent tuning to me. Only boss I'm full of ? for is Gnomenapper.
It'd be interesting to look at everyone's stats after we all finish. I would bet that your Toki score is going to be fewer games than most folks.
And yeah Gnomenapper is really weird. He just wins on his turn 3 if he has his mega CTA in hand.
I can't tell if I was getting unlucky or deck building poorly, but cannoneer took me easily three times as many attempts as any of the 9 dungeon run classes. Lord Gunjerk had unbeatable nuts run after run, the mill boss chewed through my deck before turn 10, gnomenapper's gnome sack shut me down, wisp mass mind control ended more than one run, facenapper came out of nowhere with a turn one charge minion that took out my squire then turned into a 5/6 that started a snowball that I never got an answer for... Then I built the most rickety control deck in history, and somehow fatigued out the three last bosses of the run.
Moral of the story: Wisp mind control can't beat you if you don't have any good minions to steal :templetap:
Tracker and Cannoneer I won on the first try, then had to play again to finish the quests. Toki I lost in the 3rd match on the first try, and then won the 2nd try to exactly clear the quest. Houndmaster still not done after quite a few tries...
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lucked out by burning (both?) her lifesteal daggers and the lich king. definitely leaned into hunter spells: kill command, flanking strike and animal companion are all incredible for maintaining the board.
i suppose the strategy is just to play all the heroes on curve to get to tess ASAP. as soon as i realised that it became pretty easy, as opposed to fucking around with the shitty red-herring cannon
3 rares, 1 (shitty) epic, nothing golden.
Well shivers is a mill boss. He just mills himself by playing double fel reavers
And then I one shot with Darius. So, I had to go back and clear out two more guys and then lose. Cool. And then I one shot Shaw. So I had to go back and clear out two more guys and then lose. And then I got up to Infinite Toki. I had a treasure that let me switch hands with her. I did. Her hand contained a counter spell. I played that. She played a Vicious Fledgling she got from my hand. My MC Tech snagged it. She cast her restart the game spell. Countered. A few turns later she died to my massive Fledgling. And then I had to go back and kill two bosses with Toki.
So, I figured that I might as well clear out Hagatha, and did, and now my Asian server profile has the card back too.
First Monster Hunt win with Toki. Special Shout out to that dumb bastard who thought restarting the game was a good idea and gave me so much better RNG rolls that I didn't have to use my hero power :rotate:
His weapon is hugely inconsistent in what it does and does not consider to be minions you control.
Anyway, on to Hagatha!
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The main problem is that I'm playing Secret Mage and the ladder right now seems to be 35% Odd Rogues (which is an auto-loss) and 35% Even Paladins (which I have a terrible record against lately). Back when I was winning I was seeing a lot of Quest Rogue (which is an auto-win) and Odd Paladin (which is a bit of a crapshoot but can often be won on the back of good Arcane Missiles turns and the like). Doesn't feel like there's a whole lot I can do.
Relatedly I'm going to be playing Quest Rogue at dumpster legend rest of the season to pick it up. If anyone has any advice I'd be happy to hear it.
I don't know how to properly play these weird-ass Vex Crow lists, which is saying something.
I had no idea what I was doing, but i eventually dropped Antonidas and won.
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Living Mana was pretty good even without being able to cast Savage Roar the next turn.
Right, it was Mark of the Lotus instead. Not as strong as SR but same idea. Mage has never really been a class that can capitalize on a wide board.
Unless you count old giants mage, which isn't really the same thing.
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There were plenty of games Living Mana ended without Mark of the Lotus. It's still a five mana 10/10.
And think of it this way: Sure, you don't have Roar, but Fireball + Frostbolt is pretty good at doing what Roar does. Building a big board is just another way to get in the chip damage you need before you can finish them off with burn.
(or six mana 12/12, seven mana 14/14)
Living Mana has always been an incredibly good spell just by itself. You're putting a ridiculous amount of power on board at the cost of fucking nothing. No downside. You don't give a shit about not having mana the next turn when you've got 10/12/14 power on board.
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Other times I want to push up the ladder and use meta decks to do so. I watch popular streamers using the best stuff (Spiteful Druid, Cubelock, Aggro Paladin/Rogue, etc) and have absolutely zero results. "You can't lose stars at this rank" has become my theme song. No idea what I'm doing wrong either, just seem to get bad match-ups, horrible draws, or simply outplayed. So strange and frustrating.
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