Eurovision 2018

Jazz

Note to self: hit up SE++ next year

Lost Salient

The Singapore contingent, by which I mean Flarne and his lady and myself and my Aus PAX enforcer friend and his family, just wrapped up watching

Israel clearly was the best but Denmark's soft Viking bois have my heart forever

tynic

Some kerfuffle around the racial subtext of the Netherlands performance, apparently. I won't try and summarize it, this person does a good job:

https://twitter.com/richmondbridge/status/994692969428119553

It didn't make my radar while watching, probably swamped by the weirdness of the Dutch submitting an Appalachian-style country song (plus leopard print shirt???).

Same twitter person also wrote a really interesting essay on the politics of Eurovision, which was good reading
https://bakercatherine.wordpress.com/2018/05/11/dont-forget-and-face-the-shadow-what-has-eurovision-got-to-do-with-remembering-the-dead/

Flarne

We unfortunately couldn’t get the full show and just saw all the acts in sequence. I’m not sure if I liked it better or worse without the voting sequence. At least it was quicker!

tynic

I kind of enjoy the artificial tension of the voting procedure. It's one of those irritating, vapid things that make Eurovision what it is. Like the idiotic hosts and the shameless host-country self-promotion.

Solar

Eurovision wouldn't be Eurovision without the trashy sequined glamour and pageant of it.

Lost Salient

tynic wrote: »

Some kerfuffle around the racial subtext of the Netherlands performance, apparently. I won't try and summarize it, this person does a good job:

https://twitter.com/richmondbridge/status/994692969428119553

It didn't make my radar while watching, probably swamped by the weirdness of the Dutch submitting an Appalachian-style country song (plus leopard print shirt???).

Same twitter person also wrote a really interesting essay on the politics of Eurovision, which was good reading
https://bakercatherine.wordpress.com/2018/05/11/dont-forget-and-face-the-shadow-what-has-eurovision-got-to-do-with-remembering-the-dead/

Yeah I found this song/performance super not okay but didn't really want to dig into it while everyone was over and we were watching.

Quetzi

I feel like if we are talking about racist Eurovision performances we might also want to talk about Israel

tynic

Straightzi wrote: »

I feel like if we are talking about racist Eurovision performances we might also want to talk about Israel

yeeeaaaah

Liiya

Yeah cause I googled the singer but she does't seem to be of anything other than Israeli decent, what was that about?

tynic

seems to lie somewhere in that racist no-mans-land between grotesque parody and appropriation

i mean, it was fucking insane so I loved it, but it was also Breakfast-at-Tiffany's level problematic

Platy

I asked my sister about the Pikachu line and apparently "Pikachu" is what kids nowadays call their genitals

tynic

Platypus Beirut wrote: »

I asked my sister about the Pikachu line and apparently "Pikachu" is what kids nowadays call their genitals

that's horrifying on multiple levels.