anyone who thinks there is a Disney song better than this is lying to themselves
I mean hellfire is pretty good, but only if you're watching it on youtube. If you've gotta struggle through shitty Hunchback just for one good song? Meh.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Someone on Reddit already made a thread about the totally-legitimate user reviews. Found it very odd this film that has only shown in 500 theaters already has around 6000 user reviews (as much as Incredibles 2)
I remember Home Improvement being pretty good, and am also a respected critic of accurate bowel movements in movies. For instance, in Season 2 Episode 13 of HBO's "The Sopranos", the noises associated with Tony's gastrointestinal distress do not accurately portray the noises associated with that condition.
Boy. I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Honestly the most recent Disney stuff has had some pretty outstanding music
I would put songs from Moana, Coco and maybe even Frozen in a Disney Top 10
Coco is Pixar, btw
It's also very good and its still "Disney", but as far as Disney Animation Studios, the lineage is Tangled > Frozen > Moana
And Tangled also has some amazing songs
I'm aware it is Pixar but Pixar is Disney so suck a butt!!!
But its not the same studio
They have a completely different project pipeline and power structure and animation style and their emphasis on their projects is entirely different!!!!!
Honestly the most recent Disney stuff has had some pretty outstanding music
I would put songs from Moana, Coco and maybe even Frozen in a Disney Top 10
Coco is Pixar, btw
It's also very good and its still "Disney", but as far as Disney Animation Studios, the lineage is Tangled > Frozen > Moana
And Tangled also has some amazing songs
I'm aware it is Pixar but Pixar is Disney so suck a butt!!!
But its not the same studio
They have a completely different project pipeline and power structure and animation style and their emphasis on their projects is entirely different!!!!!
I didn't say the recent Disney Animation Studios movies I said recent Disney movies you giant weirdo
Because I'm the kind of motherfucker who listens to movie soundtracks without seeing the movie (and because I'm writing a cyberpunk thing), I'm listening to Blade Runner 2049
This thing is pretty great! Although I looked it up, and the guy who did Arrival was supposed to do it originally? Which, man, sign me the fuck up
Honestly the most recent Disney stuff has had some pretty outstanding music
I would put songs from Moana, Coco and maybe even Frozen in a Disney Top 10
Coco is Pixar, btw
It's also very good and its still "Disney", but as far as Disney Animation Studios, the lineage is Tangled > Frozen > Moana
And Tangled also has some amazing songs
I'm aware it is Pixar but Pixar is Disney so suck a butt!!!
But its not the same studio
They have a completely different project pipeline and power structure and animation style and their emphasis on their projects is entirely different!!!!!
I didn't say the recent Disney Animation Studios movies I said recent Disney movies you giant weirdo
I'm here for Aladdin being the best overall soundtrack. All kinds of good fuckin' tunes. And Robin Williams really brings it home.
Interestingly, there's no real I want song
Street Rat kind of?
Edit: Also I just listened to Friend Like Me for the first time in forever and its amazing how the writers stuck in as many phrases in other languages or phrases like "dude" or other things that would allow Williams to switch between impressions while singing
I'll Make a Man Out of You is a well-written song but I'm not a huge fan of the lyrics anymore.
Yeahhhhh I love that song but it is absolutely a Problematic Fave at this point
"Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?" is not great in-context but is also, ah, resonant beyond the context of the song.
This is surprising to me! All the toxic masculinity-esque language seems very intentional to me, given that Mulan proves him wrong during the course of the song (though he doesn't know it) and proves him wrong to his face (as I remember it, it's been a while, but I mean just by virtue of the truth being revealed) by the end of the movie
Like those lyrics seem to me to be an illustration of specifically what she is overcoming. And she does, and it's pretty inspiring, I think!
Not trying to tell you you're wrong, if it makes people uncomfortable anyway then it does. I'm just trying to work out why this surprised me. There might be stuff I'm misremembering or overlooking!
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The One Jump Ahead reprise as he's looking at the palace at night is absolutely an I Want song!
Also as far as the argument of "Coco has music but maybe doesn't count because it's by a different studio," you could instead relate them by composer? Because Coco and Frozen have the same composers
And I personally tend to mentally separate the Menken Disney soundtracks from the rest (because the Menken stuff is largely, in my opinion, better)
Has sparked a very fierce debate between me and my partner (who is an insane person who stans for the Tarzan soundtrack) so I am now seeking outside voices
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Not sure if this counts for the purposes of this exercise, but the scene in Lilo and Stitch with "Aloha O`e" is one of the top-five hardest cries I've had in my life, I'm pretty sure
Aladdin is kind of an atypical disney hero because his Want is more esoteric than others.
Snow White wants to not be dead
Cinderella wants to not be an indentured servant anymore
Sleeping Beauty wants the Prince and also to not be asleep anymore
Little Mermaid wants to be human
Dumbo wants his mom
Pinocchio wants to be real
Aladdin wants...to be seen as more than his station in life. He wants opportunity to rise. He wants to be treated like a person.
The only one I can think of that is similar is Ralph, in that his Want (the medal) is just a stand in for the same thing.
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I mean all of those things are standins for bigger things
Ariel wants a place to belong, she doesn’t fit in in her hometown. She wants the ability to see things she hasn’t seen before, that no one in her country has
She’s Luke looking at the suns, she’s Hamilton leaving St Croix
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I remember Home Improvement being pretty good, and am also a respected critic of accurate bowel movements in movies. For instance, in Season 2 Episode 13 of HBO's "The Sopranos", the noises associated with Tony's gastrointestinal distress do not accurately portray the noises associated with that condition.
Boy. I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
It's unwatchable trash
I just wanted to make a simpsons reference! And we all know the only unwatchable trash in the Sopranos is any scene with AJ in it! Nobody denies this!
I'll Make a Man Out of You is a well-written song but I'm not a huge fan of the lyrics anymore.
Yeahhhhh I love that song but it is absolutely a Problematic Fave at this point
"Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?" is not great in-context but is also, ah, resonant beyond the context of the song.
This is surprising to me! All the toxic masculinity-esque language seems very intentional to me, given that Mulan proves him wrong during the course of the song (though he doesn't know it) and proves him wrong to his face (as I remember it, it's been a while, but I mean just by virtue of the truth being revealed) by the end of the movie
Like those lyrics seem to me to be an illustration of specifically what she is overcoming. And she does, and it's pretty inspiring, I think!
Not trying to tell you you're wrong, if it makes people uncomfortable anyway then it does. I'm just trying to work out why this surprised me. There might be stuff I'm misremembering or overlooking!
Mulan proves him "wrong" the way women always have to prove themselves against machismo, by matching it. At no point is any of that macho stuff actually undercut.
But also the specific phrasing there is kind of hard for me to get past as a woman whose parents refuse to recognize as anything but the son they want her to be, which is the extra-contextual relevance I alluded to.
- Making Hercules like Superman
- Making the greek chorus a gospel choir
- James Woods' Hades
The idea to make it try and map to a sort of Sports' movie plot is also ok, but ends up being half baked. Also having the gods be good was a terrible decision that really weakens the movie. just cut them from the movie completely! they don't add anything.
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no, the songs in fantasia are very long, so moana probably has more songs
I also think that Aladdin probably has the best end-to-end soundtrack out of all the Disney movies, just in terms of sheer listenability.
I mean hellfire is pretty good, but only if you're watching it on youtube. If you've gotta struggle through shitty Hunchback just for one good song? Meh.
Coco is Pixar, btw
It's also very good and its still "Disney", but as far as Disney Animation Studios, the lineage is Tangled > Frozen > Moana
And Tangled also has some amazing songs
The reprise is the part I like the most though:
Someone on Reddit already made a thread about the totally-legitimate user reviews. Found it very odd this film that has only shown in 500 theaters already has around 6000 user reviews (as much as Incredibles 2)
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It's unwatchable trash
But its not the same studio
They have a completely different project pipeline and power structure and animation style and their emphasis on their projects is entirely different!!!!!
This thing is pretty great! Although I looked it up, and the guy who did Arrival was supposed to do it originally? Which, man, sign me the fuck up
GAAAAH
TANGLED IS VERY GOOD IM SORRY IM YELLING BLANK MADE ME VERY FLUSTERED
But my favorite Hunchback song is the Beeeeelllss of Nooootreee Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
Interestingly, there's no real I want song
Street Rat kind of?
Edit: Also I just listened to Friend Like Me for the first time in forever and its amazing how the writers stuck in as many phrases in other languages or phrases like "dude" or other things that would allow Williams to switch between impressions while singing
This is surprising to me! All the toxic masculinity-esque language seems very intentional to me, given that Mulan proves him wrong during the course of the song (though he doesn't know it) and proves him wrong to his face (as I remember it, it's been a while, but I mean just by virtue of the truth being revealed) by the end of the movie
Like those lyrics seem to me to be an illustration of specifically what she is overcoming. And she does, and it's pretty inspiring, I think!
Not trying to tell you you're wrong, if it makes people uncomfortable anyway then it does. I'm just trying to work out why this surprised me. There might be stuff I'm misremembering or overlooking!
this was a good pull
Also as far as the argument of "Coco has music but maybe doesn't count because it's by a different studio," you could instead relate them by composer? Because Coco and Frozen have the same composers
And I personally tend to mentally separate the Menken Disney soundtracks from the rest (because the Menken stuff is largely, in my opinion, better)
Not sure if this counts for the purposes of this exercise, but the scene in Lilo and Stitch with "Aloha O`e" is one of the top-five hardest cries I've had in my life, I'm pretty sure
Snow White wants to not be dead
Cinderella wants to not be an indentured servant anymore
Sleeping Beauty wants the Prince and also to not be asleep anymore
Little Mermaid wants to be human
Dumbo wants his mom
Pinocchio wants to be real
Aladdin wants...to be seen as more than his station in life. He wants opportunity to rise. He wants to be treated like a person.
The only one I can think of that is similar is Ralph, in that his Want (the medal) is just a stand in for the same thing.
Ariel wants a place to belong, she doesn’t fit in in her hometown. She wants the ability to see things she hasn’t seen before, that no one in her country has
She’s Luke looking at the suns, she’s Hamilton leaving St Croix
I just wanted to make a simpsons reference! And we all know the only unwatchable trash in the Sopranos is any scene with AJ in it! Nobody denies this!
Mulan proves him "wrong" the way women always have to prove themselves against machismo, by matching it. At no point is any of that macho stuff actually undercut.
But also the specific phrasing there is kind of hard for me to get past as a woman whose parents refuse to recognize as anything but the son they want her to be, which is the extra-contextual relevance I alluded to.
Hercules is also one of the more openly sexual movies from Disney. Watching it now I can remember 12 year old CK having...feelings about megara
Hercules is weirdly forgotten and that feels kind of unfair
It's not a good adaptation of Hercules but I like it!
Aloha Oe from Lilo and Stitch.
- Making Hercules like Superman
- Making the greek chorus a gospel choir
- James Woods' Hades
The idea to make it try and map to a sort of Sports' movie plot is also ok, but ends up being half baked. Also having the gods be good was a terrible decision that really weakens the movie. just cut them from the movie completely! they don't add anything.
it's like a parody of greek mythology; the only reason the movie works is because of the characters.
I hate how Hollywood has made Hades the big bad for everything, but Hades in Disney's Hercules is just a joy to watch.
Are either any good?