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I've Had it With These Motherfucking Bees in my Motherfucking Basement

AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin KoopantinoRegistered User regular
I'm used to finding the odd dead yellowjacket in my basement once a year or so. I always figure some dumb hapless fuck bee found its way in there and died of starvation or residual pesticides. This spring, however, I've found not one, two, three, four, five or six of these hell bees down there, but seven! Pictured below are numbers six and seven that I just found today. They look a little wet because I gave them a squirt of poison to make sure they were dead before I picked them up.

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From what I can gather with my google-fu, these are Eastern Yellowjackets, and they are both queens. In fact, all seven of these that I have found have had the exact same pattern on their accursed carapaces, so I assume they are all queens. What I can't figure out is what in the hell all these queen yellowjackets are doing in my basement? I surveyed the house and I don't see anything that indicates the presence of a nest, in fact I'm actually seeing less of these fuckers outside my house than usual this year. Even if I did have a nest somewhere on the property, why the hell would there be that many queens and why are they going into my basement?

Hoping someone here has some experience with this and can give me some advice insofar as what the heck is going on and what I can do about it. Trying to avoid calling an exterminator out to inspect the property because I'm fairly certain they won't find anything, and I just can't afford it.

P.S. I know they aren't really bees.

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    If they're all queens, they may have been trying to get out instead of getting in. There might be a nest in the walls that they're trying to migrate out of, but since they haven't been able to get out, they just starve or die of other causes.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    JaysonFour wrote: »
    If they're all queens, they may have been trying to get out instead of getting in. There might be a nest in the walls that they're trying to migrate out of, but since they haven't been able to get out, they just starve or die of other causes.

    Would a single nest have that many queens migrating out all at once?

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_yellowjacket

    According to Wikipedia, this is actually how the species survives: about 30% of the cells in an eastern yellowjacket hive are devoted to raising new queens to wait out the winter- there are so many because they figure not all of them are going to survive. Unfortunately for you, your basement turned out to be a hell of a lot less harsh than the outside during the winter.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    JaysonFour wrote: »
    If they're all queens, they may have been trying to get out instead of getting in. There might be a nest in the walls that they're trying to migrate out of, but since they haven't been able to get out, they just starve or die of other causes.

    Would a single nest have that many queens migrating out all at once?

    Yes, possibly more than that depending on the size of the nest. I've read a paper that described (if this is indeed the eastern yellowjacket- wasps aren't my specialty really) how sometimes up to 17% of the nest can be devoted to the production of new "queens".....which for a larger colony can be over a hundred queens per month!

    As for control....that's more difficult, especially if the nest is indoors. Either way, I'd hang one or two wasp traps inside and outside the house (they are pretty cheap at the store, but you can make your own).

    Otherwise, try and find the nest and poison it. Wasps are assholes, good luck

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Wasps inside your wall is a 100% valid reason to get an exterminator. They don’t fuck around.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Wasps inside your wall is a 100% valid reason to get an exterminator. They don’t fuck around.
    As someone who had wasps in the vents, I wish I'd gotten an exterminator. I just moved.

  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Ok. Consulted with an exterminator today. He said I may be seeing queens because several of them found a way into my house last fall when they were looking for a place to go dormant for winter. He said now is the time of year they start waking up and the best thing to do now is residual pesticides around the foundation and all the nooks and crannies inside the basement, up in the floor joists and along interior walls. He also said any survivors could start building nests soon and they prefer warm sunny spots, so I'm supposed to keep an eye out for increased activity. He is not of the opinion I currently have an active nest but that could change super quick.

    I'm a little tempted to just bug bomb the basement but I'm not sure whether that would get any that are still hiding or not.

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    I think that's why he recommended the residuals- if there is an active/activating hive, the yellowjackets will take it back to the nest and hopefully kill it off before you end up with a swarm of angry buzzing death in your basement walls that may require removal.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    And by 'removal,' JaysonFour means use of your house.

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Or a satellite from orbit.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    Please change the thread title as there are clearly no bees involved.

    And good luck getting rid of the waps, they are a true pest.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Btw I saw a YouTube video where an exterminator showed why you shouldn't poison an established hive

    If you kill a hive instead of physically removing it, all the wasps die in place and then you have a roach infestation of a rotting hive in your wall

    Food for thought for future reference

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Somehow this thread only gets more nightmarish as it continues.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    ceres wrote: »
    Or a satellite from orbit.

    It is, after all, the only way to be sure.

    But - if you've already talked to an exterminator, and if you found them to be sensible, consider running your thoughts by them, unless that would involve a crazy consulting fee. Just to make sure you do what is best for you, whenever you do decide to nuke from orbit.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    ceres wrote: »
    Somehow this thread only gets more nightmarish as it continues.

    Don't worry, the subsequent population explosion of house centipedes will make short work of the roaches.

  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    Then you just need to introduce house birds for the centipedes. Then house snakes for the birds then mongoose for the snakes. And then just wait for winter to get rid of the mongoose

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    huh, as a kid around the same time each year I used to have yellowjackets in my bathroom. Worst was discovering their presence when I was in the shower or on the john or whatever... and I would spray the window frame and curtain and there'd just be dead wasps accumulating over time, but my father never found a nest. But now I understand why: we didn't nuke our home from orbit.

    Thanks, AbsoluteZero's basement wasps!

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    I'm happy to report after an additional extra heavy dousing of my foundation, basement, floor joists, and exterior perimeter with residual pesticide, I have not seen one fucking wasp. I probably over did it a bit, but fuck it, and fuck wasps. Hopefully my experience will be helpful if anyone around here runs into this problem.

    Also a reminder to wear eye protection when spaying pesticides. I got a drop in my eye and it did not feel great.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Awesome for not seeing wasps, not for bug spray in your eye

    Unless that's why you aren't seeing wasps anymore

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    You can't see any wasps if you can't see anything

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  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    A shame

    With multiple living queens you could have watched the dynamics of who ended up ascending the paper throne of wasperos

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    I'm happy to report after an additional extra heavy dousing of my foundation, basement, floor joists, and exterior perimeter with residual pesticide, I have not seen one fucking wasp. I probably over did it a bit, but fuck it, and fuck wasps. Hopefully my experience will be helpful if anyone around here runs into this problem.

    Also a reminder to wear eye protection when spaying pesticides. I got a drop in my eye and it did not feel great.

    Oof, I've had Off sprayed in my face by jackasses before. I know that pain.

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  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    Syngyne wrote: »
    A shame

    With multiple living queens you could have watched the dynamics of who ended up ascending the paper throne of wasperos

    Dont the drones decide which queen smells the healthiest and ween the others off until they kill them?

    Edit: apparently only a few species do that

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  • Super NamicchiSuper Namicchi Orange County, CARegistered User regular
    bwanie wrote: »
    Syngyne wrote: »
    A shame

    With multiple living queens you could have watched the dynamics of who ended up ascending the paper throne of wasperos

    Dont the drones decide which queen smells the healthiest and ween the others off until they kill them?

    Edit: apparently only a few species do that

    well you know what they say—in the Game of Drones you win or you die

  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    bwanie wrote: »
    Syngyne wrote: »
    A shame

    With multiple living queens you could have watched the dynamics of who ended up ascending the paper throne of wasperos

    Dont the drones decide which queen smells the healthiest and ween the others off until they kill them?

    Edit: apparently only a few species do that

    well you know what they say—in the Game of Drones you win or you die

    That's one of those games that's fundamentally broken unless you pony up for the playable-Queen DLC. The Drone suuuuuucks.

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