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[Pokemon] Sword and Shield: Out now. Mark your spoilers!

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    SilverWind wrote: »
    I really prefer Gatexit, the E in the middle flows so well

    Real pain to pronounce though

    Yeah, sightreading it I get "gate-zit" which can't be right.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    it's either gate-zit or gat-exit and neither one of those has good mouthfeel

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  • LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    gah, texit!

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    The Verge says it's the best Pokemon game in years

    IGN gives it a 9.3 and says it's the best game in the series

    If anyone is tired of the negativity circlejerk on the main pokemon subreddit, there's r/PokemonSwordAndShield/ which is much better

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    moriveth have you heard about the 200 people in canada who are mad about the liberals winning so they started Wexit

    Isn't this group trying to get federally recognized as a political party whose primary platform is the secession of Alberta? Or was that another province?

    It's abhorrent, but it's way more in keeping with the actual spirit of Brexit than using that suffix to describe Pokemon rosters

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    the verge says it doesn't fix the difficulty curve problem from the last two games, which is pretty disappointing for me

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    The Verge says it's the best Pokemon game in years

    IGN gives it a 9.3 and says it's the best game in the series

    If anyone is tired of the negativity circlejerk on the main pokemon subreddit, there's r/PokemonSwordAndShield/ which is much better

    Meanwhile Eurogamer trashed it and wasn't kind in the slightest.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    moriveth have you heard about the 200 people in canada who are mad about the liberals winning so they started Wexit

    The same thing happened in Ireland, and that party's membership was recently eclipsed in a 24 hour span by the founding of a socialist party that spawned from a leftist Facebook group that posts Simpsons memes all day

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  • Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    My (least) favorite part of the backlash against these games is how apparently "datamined models which are identical between SwSh and USUM" is... just some images of wireframe models being passed around reddit, Twitter, and 4chan. No context, no source, actual proof. But of course people are treating it like damning evidence.


    ...okay my REAL very much LEAST favorite part about all this are the death threats against game devs.

  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    Who even gives a shit if they reused models?

    Like... they reused sprites from Gen IV for V, right? Just with some fancy animations added.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Diamond/Pearl/Platinum share front sprites animated with 2 frames combined with scaling/translation/rotation effects, HeartGold/SoulSilver have a different set of 2 frame animated frontsprites, all the gen 4 games share a non-animated back sprite. The gen 5 games all have new more elaborately animated front and back sprites with slightly higher resolution and way more unique animation frames, none of them look reused after a cursory glance through a few early pokedex entries on bulbapedia.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    it was when they moved to 3d models with xy/sumo that "they reuse models" became a...thing

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Trying to decide between sword and shield, I'm leaning towards Sword but I'd be missing out on Sableye, Tyranitar, and Galarian Ponyta

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    I don't think anyone cares about them reusing models in theory. It's when the Dex cut is justified by the creator saying "We had to remake all the models" (something to that effect, haven't seen the video in months) as their reason for the Dex cut and that appearing to be a pretty flimsy excuse.

  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Is it a flimsy excuse? I'm genuinely curious, I would have thought that having to remake a bunch of 3d models for their new game on top of everything else might have made them consider where best to put those resources.

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  • KandenKanden Registered User regular
    I'm pumped for the game, but lack of resources as an excuse for not having all the Pokemon doesn't really fly with me. Pokemon is literally the highest grossing media franchise of all time, they can afford to staff more people.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Kanden wrote: »
    I'm pumped for the game, but lack of resources as an excuse for not having all the Pokemon doesn't really fly with me. Pokemon is literally the highest grossing media franchise of all time, they can afford to staff more people.

    You wouldn't want to create temp positions to do work that's going to dry up within a year, though. Even if they're doing forward-thinking design they want to keep the workflow at a level that keeps employee turnover at a minimum

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  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    That it is ostensibly a better balanced game with more prominent showcasing of the selected 'mons has value too. I guess we'll see tomorrow!

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    I'm excited to play a new Pokemon game tomorrow!

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    i'm honestly pretty excited about them rotating poogles in and out of the dex depending on the game. gives the weirdos a lot of time to shine instead of...okay a month later we've opened up the gts and every team is six celesteenas, cool

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  • DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    I'm likely going to be getting sword purely because of the version-specific evolution of that one new Pokemon.

    That one is right up there amongst my favorites, now.

    Javen
  • H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    Even if they reused the base models, it's not like they can just go to the ones they had for S/M and hit a big "Import" button and call it a day. I'm assuming that there are differences between the engine version they're using for Sw/Sh and the one they used for S/M. You're still going to have to make changes for all the assets you use and have to test each and every one to make sure there isn't anything funky going on. It's a lot of work still.

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    I wonder if they'll add in the rest over time DLC style or do Ultra Swish or just not bother until gen 9

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    Inexperience with HD development isn't something you can solve by just throwing money at the problem.

  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I wonder if they'll add in the rest over time DLC style or do Ultra Swish or just not bother until gen 9

    Pretty sure it's none of the above

  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    One thing I've never been very clear on, but can every pokemon Dynamax, and only a few can Gigamax?

    There was one hype video I watched before all the leaks started the negativity that had a pretty good point saying it's not just about having the same 3D sprites from USUM and scaling them up, but now you have to consider the dynamax sprites, the gigamax sprites, the walking-with-trainer sprites, etc. That's the kind of thing that takes up resources, not just a few combat sprites for every Pokemon.

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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    my understanding is that specific pokemon have unique empowered forms when they embiggen

    I think this is like generic z moves vs special unique ones

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    They should have swapped those names and used Gigamax for just getting big and Dynamax for taking on a new form

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2019
    I don't mean this in a negative way towards anyone who plays Pokemon competitively but maaan, reading a lot of this shit makes me very glad I never got into it.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Random question for anyone who has seen more spoilers than me..
    Do the starters have special big-poke forms? Are there any pics of those(if they do)? Because that would be cool for someone who probably isn't going to try to hunt out one of the special forms to just have one from the start and have a good reason to keep the starter around.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Random question for anyone who has seen more spoilers than me..
    Do the starters have special big-poke forms? Are there any pics of those(if they do)? Because that would be cool for someone who probably isn't going to try to hunt out one of the special forms to just have one from the start and have a good reason to keep the starter around.
    Apparently they dont which is odd

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Random question for anyone who has seen more spoilers than me..
    Do the starters have special big-poke forms? Are there any pics of those(if they do)? Because that would be cool for someone who probably isn't going to try to hunt out one of the special forms to just have one from the start and have a good reason to keep the starter around.
    Apparently they dont which is odd
    That's pretty unfortunate! I guess I probably won't get to use any of the special ones then since I'm not going to replace a poke I've already been training with another of the same one I already have.

  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Various reviews have also pointed out that Dynamaxing is actually pretty limited in the main game, reserved just for Gyms and Max Raid battles.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Varoous reviews have also pointed out that Dynamaxing is actually pretty limited in the main game, reserved just for Gyms and Max Raid battles.

    They were fairly clear about that from the get go

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I just want to travel and catch pokemon so if it does that well I'll be happy.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Varoous reviews have also pointed out that Dynamaxing is actually pretty limited in the main game, reserved just for Gyms and Max Raid battles.
    Yea that's why I'm not going to go out of the way to do anything special for it. But also more the reason it feels like the starters should have those forms. Would be a perfect thing to add something a little special to your starter just for story battles. But hey, maybe this means I just try to play without using dynamax at all to make the gyms not be quite as easy.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    It's been 2 decades since I've picked up a pokemon game, so I'm pretty excited as long as it's better than the original game boy red/blue versions

  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    Is it a flimsy excuse? I'm genuinely curious, I would have thought that having to remake a bunch of 3d models for their new game on top of everything else might have made them consider where best to put those resources.

    It is a flimsy excuse (read: lie) iff (if and only if) they are only importing the models and not remaking them. People upset are claiming the models are identical and that importing them is pretty trivial. I don't know enough about programming games and video game models to confirm or deny.

    I have also read that it is possible that the importer may have gotten the models but screwed up the animations. If GF had only done a few imports and they looked good at first pass, they may have put that aside and worked on other stuff instead, only to find out that whoops everything's not exactly right and many animations had to be rebuilt. Such a circumstance could mean the Dex was cut due to time limitations.

  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    It's been 2 decades since I've picked up a pokemon game, so I'm pretty excited as long as it's better than the original game boy red/blue versions

    No fear on that end, Pokemon has always been steadily improving.

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