i don't mind the silliness myself as long as it's consistent, or the contrast with serious feels right
i think a lot of the cayde/eris interactions in taken king got that pretty well
a long setup for cayde-7 tying into us getting all those doodads out of his stashes would be really neat, but i dunno if they're going that way
the vex can't time fuck us because our fundamental nature as guardians of light is that we are paracausal
Naw, I've seen worse people to agree with.
And I dunno. Paracausal doesn't really help me understand that if the Vex go back and shoot dinklebot before he revives me, how can I be revived, unless we're talking split timelines.
And if we're talking split lines, well...mine's good, so all good.
And (x3) I agree, I think that's where the Cayde stuff / memories might be going. Will be interesting if it's executed well.
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it's like
the vex can't just go back and shoot dinklebot before he revives you because you exist outside of linear time
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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"we put time travel robots in the story before we realized that time travel is almost impossible to do without introducing cavernous plotholes so uuuhhhh YOU EXIST OUTSIDE OF TIME yeah there we go nailed it"
honestly just like...rewrite the Vex to not include time travel. make them exploit the infinite multiverse for their own gain or whatever. time travel is bad. stay away from it.
"we put time travel robots in the story before we realized that time travel is almost impossible to do without introducing cavernous plotholes so uuuhhhh YOU EXIST OUTSIDE OF TIME yeah there we go nailed it"
honestly just like...rewrite the Vex to not include time travel. make them exploit the infinite multiverse for their own gain or whatever. time travel is bad. stay away from it.
"we put time travel robots in the story before we realized that time travel is almost impossible to do without introducing cavernous plotholes so uuuhhhh YOU EXIST OUTSIDE OF TIME yeah there we go nailed it"
honestly just like...rewrite the Vex to not include time travel. make them exploit the infinite multiverse for their own gain or whatever. time travel is bad. stay away from it.
i find it all very
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"we put time travel robots in the story before we realized that time travel is almost impossible to do without introducing cavernous plotholes so uuuhhhh YOU EXIST OUTSIDE OF TIME yeah there we go nailed it"
honestly just like...rewrite the Vex to not include time travel. make them exploit the infinite multiverse for their own gain or whatever. time travel is bad. stay away from it.
I'm amazed at how fast you can get your LL up starting fresh. Last Sunday I and a couple of friends started new characters on the PC. We're all in the 340's now after around 18 hours of play time. We should be 350 or near enough by next week to run heroic strikes. We may try to work our way through the first raid (it's been about a year since I last ran it on PS4), so we may try and find some sherpas on reddit or see if anyone in the PC clan would be willing to help us.
Still, my biggest concern about switching from PS4 to PC was how long it was going to take to get my LL to what my PS4 character is at. Getting to 370+ is still going to take a while, but getting to 340 has been surprisingly quick.
Just hop on discord, we usually have a bunch of us itching to run raids but without enough people usually on to run them.
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i am worried that instead of the story "growing up" it's just going to go grimdark because oh you don't think the tone is serious enough?!
like they're really repeating this "we killed (spoiler still?)! the story is getting darker!" line over and over again and uh
i have my doubts
I'd like to think Bungie could write something good, but, uh, every single thing they've done since The Taken King suggests otherwise.
Didnt Seth Dickinson write that?
Seth Dickinson wrote the Books of Sorrow (which were probably written during D1 development), and flavor text.
I don't think he like, writes cutscene or VO dialog or pain sounds or the like.
So not much of the in-game plot stuff is likely written by the old Grimoire writers?
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Because we live in a absurd universe, Nolan North is portraying Cayde-6 in Forsaken.
Not Nathan Fillion.
The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
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Because we live in a absurd universe, Nolan North is portraying Cayde-6 in Forsaken.
Not Nathan Fillion.
The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
it's often money
and often nothing to do with the performer themselves
Because we live in a absurd universe, Nolan North is portraying Cayde-6 in Forsaken.
Not Nathan Fillion.
The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
Bungie has had Nathan Fillion in so many of their games for so long, sometimes to play an extremely bit role.
Yeah, dude has more work nowadays and commands a higher budget, but likely we're talking about 4 hours of work (typically can't pay for less than that even if it's a smaller session, which yeah this probably would be) to tie up your most iconic character in your giant franchise upon which your future hinges.
That said, at least they went with Nolan North and not the actor for Shiro.
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Nathan Fillion has repeatedly said that he loves playing Cayde-6 (and his behavior at cons/meet-ups definitely supports it) so I would guess this decision was not his.
Because we live in a absurd universe, Nolan North is portraying Cayde-6 in Forsaken.
Not Nathan Fillion. The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
Wait, what?
Is that confirmed?
That seems super... I was going to say super weird, but it's a Bungie decision. The intern probably thinks it makes perfect sense.
I'm not sure that "meeting the challenge to come" will be the next step for the Guardians of the Tower. Zavala says "...the City is anywhere and everywhere humanity sets foot. We will venture outward. We will dare to behold the unknown. We will walk upon new planets -- and, one day, in the light of distant stars. And Guardian ... you will lead the way." Sounds pretty specific that the future will be us going out and forging a path, rather than sitting back waiting for the next assault. I'm sure that the pyramid ships will be involved, probably closer to home than further away, but I don't see us having yet another Tower/City assault. Not with the Traveler awakened.
Uhuh. We've had two story beats since the Traveler "awakened" and so far it has changed precisely nothing.
Fuck, it would have been the perfect way to make CoO mean something. Osiris has been constantly battling Panoptes and just barely holding them in check for like a century but the ripples of the Traveler's containment fucked it up some how and put Osiris on the back foot and he's been slowly losing ground in the Forest. Instead of stupid ghost fetch quest we spend the DLC creating a bridge for the active Traveler into the Forest and thus Panoptes gets beat down for a reason beyond "Once more you are super duper ultra special Unnamed Guardian."
I also would have tied the Traveler's resurgence into Norkis/Xol waking up and possibly Rasputin deciding that he needs to spin back up himself to act as a counter balance.
All of which amounts to I expect absolutely nothing to change in Forsaken and the Traveler to do the equivalent of hitting snooze and rolling over.
But that is what happened? Like, they say so in the game. The Traveller's awakening is what set off the events of both CoO and Warmind.
I kind of expect the dialogue from Zavala and some of the grimoire fragments about the future to mean that at least one of the possibilities for the future is that the Traveller's awakening attracts the black pyramid ships and leaves the City destroyed and humanity fleeing the solar system, with the next game taking place on distant new worlds.
They might not pull that trigger but I think they've set up the possibility.
Because we live in a absurd universe, Nolan North is portraying Cayde-6 in Forsaken.
Not Nathan Fillion. The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
Wait, what?
Is that confirmed?
That seems super... I was going to say super weird, but it's a Bungie decision. The intern probably thinks it makes perfect sense.
It is confirmed by Kotaku. I haven't listened to it but comments mention Nathan Filliion saying it was due to his schedule.
I'm not sure that "meeting the challenge to come" will be the next step for the Guardians of the Tower. Zavala says "...the City is anywhere and everywhere humanity sets foot. We will venture outward. We will dare to behold the unknown. We will walk upon new planets -- and, one day, in the light of distant stars. And Guardian ... you will lead the way." Sounds pretty specific that the future will be us going out and forging a path, rather than sitting back waiting for the next assault. I'm sure that the pyramid ships will be involved, probably closer to home than further away, but I don't see us having yet another Tower/City assault. Not with the Traveler awakened.
Uhuh. We've had two story beats since the Traveler "awakened" and so far it has changed precisely nothing.
Fuck, it would have been the perfect way to make CoO mean something. Osiris has been constantly battling Panoptes and just barely holding them in check for like a century but the ripples of the Traveler's containment fucked it up some how and put Osiris on the back foot and he's been slowly losing ground in the Forest. Instead of stupid ghost fetch quest we spend the DLC creating a bridge for the active Traveler into the Forest and thus Panoptes gets beat down for a reason beyond "Once more you are super duper ultra special Unnamed Guardian."
I also would have tied the Traveler's resurgence into Norkis/Xol waking up and possibly Rasputin deciding that he needs to spin back up himself to act as a counter balance.
All of which amounts to I expect absolutely nothing to change in Forsaken and the Traveler to do the equivalent of hitting snooze and rolling over.
But that is what happened? Like, they say so in the game. The Traveller's awakening is what set off the events of both CoO and Warmind.
I do not remember them ever mentioning it for CoO. Do you remember what form it took?
I know Warmind had the wave thing pass through Mars and I guess that counts but it is still pretty weak all in all. Especially in that it leaves both the Traveler and Rasputin as pretty much passive.
Too me the biggest disappointment in Curse of Osiris was the reveal that the Vex grand plan is to turn off the sun.
I don’t think you could come up with a less interesting reveal for the incomprehensible time traveling robots if you tried
The sun being dead is just the most obvious sign of what is going on. One of the refletions specifically says:
Neither Light nor Darkness exists anymore. The sun’s warmth is gone. All life… lost.
And from one of the mercury armour set pieces:
But the Vex? The Vex seek neither Light nor Darkness. They seek Convergence, the reduction of all life to its simplest, most meaningless form. An entelechy of zeros and ones.
There's more on this too from D1 and D2 I believe.
But I think the overall picture is that the Vex seek a future where all is Vex. Where nothing else exists. Light and dark and life and all that are gone and only the Vex remain. The Vex have always been said to be seeking a way to weave themselves into the fabric of reality or something to that effect.
Because we live in a absurd universe, Nolan North is portraying Cayde-6 in Forsaken.
Not Nathan Fillion. The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
Wait, what?
Is that confirmed?
That seems super... I was going to say super weird, but it's a Bungie decision. The intern probably thinks it makes perfect sense.
It is confirmed by Kotaku. I haven't listened to it but comments mention Nathan Filliion saying it was due to his schedule.
Scheduling is less ominous than some grudge by an exec or some shit, but like....
Do a fucking phone session and distort the voice, he's a robot anyway.
I'm not sure that "meeting the challenge to come" will be the next step for the Guardians of the Tower. Zavala says "...the City is anywhere and everywhere humanity sets foot. We will venture outward. We will dare to behold the unknown. We will walk upon new planets -- and, one day, in the light of distant stars. And Guardian ... you will lead the way." Sounds pretty specific that the future will be us going out and forging a path, rather than sitting back waiting for the next assault. I'm sure that the pyramid ships will be involved, probably closer to home than further away, but I don't see us having yet another Tower/City assault. Not with the Traveler awakened.
Uhuh. We've had two story beats since the Traveler "awakened" and so far it has changed precisely nothing.
Fuck, it would have been the perfect way to make CoO mean something. Osiris has been constantly battling Panoptes and just barely holding them in check for like a century but the ripples of the Traveler's containment fucked it up some how and put Osiris on the back foot and he's been slowly losing ground in the Forest. Instead of stupid ghost fetch quest we spend the DLC creating a bridge for the active Traveler into the Forest and thus Panoptes gets beat down for a reason beyond "Once more you are super duper ultra special Unnamed Guardian."
I also would have tied the Traveler's resurgence into Norkis/Xol waking up and possibly Rasputin deciding that he needs to spin back up himself to act as a counter balance.
All of which amounts to I expect absolutely nothing to change in Forsaken and the Traveler to do the equivalent of hitting snooze and rolling over.
But that is what happened? Like, they say so in the game. The Traveller's awakening is what set off the events of both CoO and Warmind.
I do not remember them ever mentioning it for CoO. Do you remember what form it took?
I know Warmind had the wave thing pass through Mars and I guess that counts but it is still pretty weak all in all. Especially in that it leaves both the Traveler and Rasputin as pretty much passive.
They explicitly mention it in both as I recall, though I don't remember where. The Traveller being awake is what changes the parameters of the simulation somehow and is what causes Osiris to shit a brick. The wave thing the Traveller releases is also what began the thawing on Mars that sets off the events of Warmind by releasing Noxris' Hive.
I would bet we might even get something about how either these events or the wave itself are also what sets off the events of Forsaken.
The general theme of all the D2 stories seems to be that the Traveller was playing dead for a reason and that he only woke up to smack Ghaul down and now shit gonna get crazy. Eventually culminating, one assumes, in the black pyramids showing up.
I'm also now really excited for the scene in Destiny 3 when Zavala needs to convince Ikora that Cayde-7 is actually trustworthy to lead the strike team sent to take down the now-Vexified Osiris, and all of the characters I've named are played by Nolan North.
Destiny becomes an exercise in expressing Nolan North's acting range.
Too me the biggest disappointment in Curse of Osiris was the reveal that the Vex grand plan is to turn off the sun.
I don’t think you could come up with a less interesting reveal for the incomprehensible time traveling robots if you tried
The sun being dead is just the most obvious sign of what is going on. One of the refletions specifically says:
Neither Light nor Darkness exists anymore. The sun’s warmth is gone. All life… lost.
And from one of the mercury armour set pieces:
But the Vex? The Vex seek neither Light nor Darkness. They seek Convergence, the reduction of all life to its simplest, most meaningless form. An entelechy of zeros and ones.
There's more on this too from D1 and D2 I believe.
But I think the overall picture is that the Vex seek a future where all is Vex. Where nothing else exists. Light and dark and life and all that are gone and only the Vex remain. The Vex have always been said to be seeking a way to weave themselves into the fabric of reality or something to that effect.
I saw some of that but it doesn’t really matter. The fact that they thought ‘dead sun’ was a good representation of the vex writing themselves into reality was the final nail in the wooden coffin housing my hopes for the mysteries of Destiny being resolved in a compelling way.
They could have done anything! Do some trippy Being John Malkovich shit!
"we put time travel robots in the story before we realized that time travel is almost impossible to do without introducing cavernous plotholes so uuuhhhh YOU EXIST OUTSIDE OF TIME yeah there we go nailed it"
honestly just like...rewrite the Vex to not include time travel. make them exploit the infinite multiverse for their own gain or whatever. time travel is bad. stay away from it.
But this whole idea is pretty fundamental to both the Light and the Darkness. The Book of Sorrows talks about it a ton. The things the Traveller and the Worm Gods and such do. Space magic, black and white, fundamentally violates all the laws of physics and so leaves the actions of those that use it outside of causality. This makes them unsimulatable by the Vex which causes them issues with whatever methods they use to do their time travel related shenanigoats.
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And I dunno. Paracausal doesn't really help me understand that if the Vex go back and shoot dinklebot before he revives me, how can I be revived, unless we're talking split timelines.
And if we're talking split lines, well...mine's good, so all good.
And (x3) I agree, I think that's where the Cayde stuff / memories might be going. Will be interesting if it's executed well.
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the vex can't just go back and shoot dinklebot before he revives you because you exist outside of linear time
honestly just like...rewrite the Vex to not include time travel. make them exploit the infinite multiverse for their own gain or whatever. time travel is bad. stay away from it.
Which is really fucking freaky and something the game only brushes up on.
i find it all very
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That's mind shatteringly stupid.
imo.
Not saying you're not right, btw.
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yes i agree
Congrats, you understand now why the Vex find us infuriating.
I'd like to think Bungie could write something good, but, uh, every single thing they've done since The Taken King suggests otherwise.
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I don’t think you could come up with a less interesting reveal for the incomprehensible time traveling robots if you tried
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The skybox was pretty, though.
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Didnt Seth Dickinson write that?
IT ALWAYS IS
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Seth Dickinson wrote the Books of Sorrow (which were probably written during D1 development), and flavor text.
I don't think he like, writes cutscene or VO dialog or pain sounds or the like.
So not much of the in-game plot stuff is likely written by the old Grimoire writers?
moments of triumph start next month and a few are previewed and available currently
and armsday comes back in some form
and august is basically a month long event thing
currently, no not really. the final faction rally of season 3 starts tomorrow
Not Nathan Fillion.
The same Nathan Fillion who has made a 15 minute Uncharted fan-film, portraying Nathan Drake.
We live in Bizzaro World.
I wonder if it was money or something more sinister that was the reason not have Nathan Fillion wrap up Cayde-6.
it's often money
and often nothing to do with the performer themselves
That explains a lot
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Yeah, dude has more work nowadays and commands a higher budget, but likely we're talking about 4 hours of work (typically can't pay for less than that even if it's a smaller session, which yeah this probably would be) to tie up your most iconic character in your giant franchise upon which your future hinges.
That said, at least they went with Nolan North and not the actor for Shiro.
Big patch tomorrow that official kicks off this years triumphs, adds bounties and a bunch of other improvements.
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Wait, what?
Is that confirmed?
That seems super... I was going to say super weird, but it's a Bungie decision. The intern probably thinks it makes perfect sense.
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But that is what happened? Like, they say so in the game. The Traveller's awakening is what set off the events of both CoO and Warmind.
I kind of expect the dialogue from Zavala and some of the grimoire fragments about the future to mean that at least one of the possibilities for the future is that the Traveller's awakening attracts the black pyramid ships and leaves the City destroyed and humanity fleeing the solar system, with the next game taking place on distant new worlds.
They might not pull that trigger but I think they've set up the possibility.
It is confirmed by Kotaku. I haven't listened to it but comments mention Nathan Filliion saying it was due to his schedule.
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Is the taken queen literally just a full priced expansion just to cover over the loss of voice talent?
#kiddingnotkidding? is that how hashtags work?...
...I'm old.
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I do not remember them ever mentioning it for CoO. Do you remember what form it took?
I know Warmind had the wave thing pass through Mars and I guess that counts but it is still pretty weak all in all. Especially in that it leaves both the Traveler and Rasputin as pretty much passive.
The sun being dead is just the most obvious sign of what is going on. One of the refletions specifically says: And from one of the mercury armour set pieces:
There's more on this too from D1 and D2 I believe.
But I think the overall picture is that the Vex seek a future where all is Vex. Where nothing else exists. Light and dark and life and all that are gone and only the Vex remain. The Vex have always been said to be seeking a way to weave themselves into the fabric of reality or something to that effect.
Scheduling is less ominous than some grudge by an exec or some shit, but like....
Do a fucking phone session and distort the voice, he's a robot anyway.
They explicitly mention it in both as I recall, though I don't remember where. The Traveller being awake is what changes the parameters of the simulation somehow and is what causes Osiris to shit a brick. The wave thing the Traveller releases is also what began the thawing on Mars that sets off the events of Warmind by releasing Noxris' Hive.
I would bet we might even get something about how either these events or the wave itself are also what sets off the events of Forsaken.
The general theme of all the D2 stories seems to be that the Traveller was playing dead for a reason and that he only woke up to smack Ghaul down and now shit gonna get crazy. Eventually culminating, one assumes, in the black pyramids showing up.
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Destiny becomes an exercise in expressing Nolan North's acting range.
I saw some of that but it doesn’t really matter. The fact that they thought ‘dead sun’ was a good representation of the vex writing themselves into reality was the final nail in the wooden coffin housing my hopes for the mysteries of Destiny being resolved in a compelling way.
They could have done anything! Do some trippy Being John Malkovich shit!
https://medium.com/@alascii
But this whole idea is pretty fundamental to both the Light and the Darkness. The Book of Sorrows talks about it a ton. The things the Traveller and the Worm Gods and such do. Space magic, black and white, fundamentally violates all the laws of physics and so leaves the actions of those that use it outside of causality. This makes them unsimulatable by the Vex which causes them issues with whatever methods they use to do their time travel related shenanigoats.