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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I just took Rem in with just her BSB and I made it to phase 6 fine, but couldn't do the last 30% before the boss starts spamming the 50k fixed damage attack. I suspect she has to be legend dived.

    Jragghen
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    I might give it a try with Gaffgarion, with USB+BSB. Burst has both an Ether command and a healing command, though they are just 2/1 hits respectively. Still, that means I can use Dread Weapon for heals (or Dire Heal, I guess). No doublecast aside from RM though, and his Ultra chase is only 2 hits, so he may not be able to clear the final phase in time.

    Fry on
  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    I haven't managed to clear the last phase with Ashe, even with a dive. Taking the turns to dispel takes too long, and without it I'm not capping.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    How many turns of not capping does it take to counterbalance the damage gained by not taking a turn to dispel?

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    I haven't managed to clear the last phase with Ashe, even with a dive. Taking the turns to dispel takes too long, and without it I'm not capping.

    What's your RM?

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    I haven't managed to clear the last phase with Ashe, even with a dive. Taking the turns to dispel takes too long, and without it I'm not capping.

    What's your RM?

    Dr Mog.

    Guessing I need to change it to weakness and just build meter the old fashioned way?

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    I haven't managed to clear the last phase with Ashe, even with a dive. Taking the turns to dispel takes too long, and without it I'm not capping.

    What's your RM?

    Dr Mog.

    Guessing I need to change it to weakness and just build meter the old fashioned way?

    Build meter with Voltech, heal with Drainga, and use plus damage or maybe 15% dual cast RM.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    In a couple weeks I'm probably gonna have all characters @ level 99. Weird feeling.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Stupid question: is Ironfist Earth actually counterproductive with Tifa's USB2? The attack powers up with repeated uses, but Monk Double means she can only use it up to 5 times. Unless it counts the Dualcast?

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Enlong wrote: »
    Stupid question: is Ironfist Earth actually counterproductive with Tifa's USB2? The attack powers up with repeated uses, but Monk Double means she can only use it up to 5 times. Unless it counts the Dualcast?

    Each cast counts as a unique cast as part of the doubelcast. So by the second time you use the ability it's at max damage.

    e: At least I think so. That's anecdotal observation *goes googling*

    e2: Looks like it: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/9dpcxv/ironfists_how_do_they_work/e5jhh9j/

    Jragghen on
  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    In a couple weeks I'm probably gonna have all characters @ level 99. Weird feeling.

    I actually just went and egged everyone up yesterday for the hell of it. The weirdest part is seeing MC3s as a reward and going "well THIS is useless."

    I'd really like an egg->arcana converter.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Stupid question: is Ironfist Earth actually counterproductive with Tifa's USB2? The attack powers up with repeated uses, but Monk Double means she can only use it up to 5 times. Unless it counts the Dualcast?

    Each cast counts as a unique cast as part of the doubelcast. So by the second time you use the ability it's at max damage.

    e: At least I think so. That's anecdotal observation *goes googling*

    e2: Looks like it: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/9dpcxv/ironfists_how_do_they_work/e5jhh9j/

    Cool. Thanks for the info.

  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Stupid question: is Ironfist Earth actually counterproductive with Tifa's USB2? The attack powers up with repeated uses, but Monk Double means she can only use it up to 5 times. Unless it counts the Dualcast?

    it does count, but it would be productive anyway because gaia rush is bad and ironfist at base level is still better and also 5 hits v 4.

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    Fry
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Yeah, the Earth version of healy-punchy can't come soon enough; Gaia Rush really isn't a good backup.

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Sweet, daily hit was a dupe of Dagger's Dagger. I was wanting a fourth +lightning MAG weapon for a while now, and this works perfectly!

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    This Quetzalcoatl fight is a major pain in the ass to plan without a chain.

    I did get him down to 90% on a trial run, but the everything fell apart so, so badly.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    This Quetzalcoatl fight is a major pain in the ass to plan without a chain.

    I did get him down to 90% on a trial run, but the everything fell apart so, so badly.

    What the hell are you packing that you got to 90% on a trial run? I'm legitimately curious.

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    This Quetzalcoatl fight is a major pain in the ass to plan without a chain.

    I did get him down to 90% on a trial run, but the everything fell apart so, so badly.

    What the hell are you packing that you got to 90% on a trial run? I'm legitimately curious.

    Bartz Glint/BSB3/AOSB was the main damage dealer, with Ignis BSB and its ridiculous buffs boosting him to max out spellblade hits. Guy was using Heavy to stone press, Aerith USB2 for healing, and I was running Ingus BSB2 for radiant shield. Ignis also throws crit 100% on Guy so that Stone Press breaks the damage cap.

    But I screwed up buffing Guy and having Stone Press ready at the end, and then it all ended right quick.

    I'm debating if I should dive Guy (got his BSB to imperil when a stone press isn't imminent), and I can't decide if Ingus is worth it for his shield and some light damage. I could go with Tifa for radiant and OSB, or Alphinaud for radiant and buff, or just cut radiant out all together for something else.

    Also wondering if it's worth picking up Bartz's triplecast LMR from the dream select.

    Ultimately I gotta learn Quetz's patterns, I'm getting better at the start at least!

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Got my fourth behemoth king, hooray.

    Now to see if I can muddle through Quetzalcoatl again.

    Elderlycrawfish38thDoe
  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Cid Raines ftw
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  • GrimthwackerGrimthwacker Registered User regular
    Holy carp, on my lunch break I pulled on the new FFIV banner: 5/11, 2 discos.

    Barbariccia USB
    Edward USB and Materia
    DCecil Glint
    Palom Materia

    Umm, always pull I guess? The weapons seem kinda useful and the armors should be nice stat boosts, so good for me.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Cid Raines ftw
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    Be aware that 4* is a good jump from 3*, and we had time to farm 3* and have full level 99 magicite teams before tackling them - don't expect to be able to dive right in.

    That being said, don't also waste time trying to get every 3* magicite to 99 - most of them aren't important in the long run.

  • MaytagMaytag Registered User regular
    Yeah just try to get the Imperil Magicites, Enkidu and Unicorn I'd say.

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    Jragghen
  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Thanks. Yeah I had a rude awakening with Tiamat lol. I still have to 4* mote a couple of my dps guys and I think I see the need for a Shelke dive.

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  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Oof, yeah, Tiamat is a rude intro to 4* magicites.

    Jragghen
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Reminder that we have a scheduled maintenance for midnight PST. Also tomorrow is Chocobo Shop refresh, so burn your stamina and stamina potions or whatever

    Dungeon update 49 will feature IV: TAY, XIII-2, and Type-0.

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    Fry
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Dungeon update is a combination of my favorite realm (XIII), a realm I am in dire need of stuff for (Typo), and a realm that is full of a sea of garbage for bad characters who don't get good stuff (Forte). I can already feel what I'm going to be getting from the lucky draw.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Got iv torment 280 down to under 40s. Stupid hold.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Darklyre wrote: »
    Oof, yeah, Tiamat is a rude intro to 4* magicites.

    I'd save Tiamat unless you're stacked. It's probably the hardest of the non-holy/dark

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  • DaffyddDaffydd Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    This Quetzalcoatl fight is a major pain in the ass to plan without a chain.

    I did get him down to 90% on a trial run, but the everything fell apart so, so badly.

    What the hell are you packing that you got to 90% on a trial run? I'm legitimately curious.

    Bartz Glint/BSB3/AOSB was the main damage dealer, with Ignis BSB and its ridiculous buffs boosting him to max out spellblade hits. Guy was using Heavy to stone press, Aerith USB2 for healing, and I was running Ingus BSB2 for radiant shield. Ignis also throws crit 100% on Guy so that Stone Press breaks the damage cap.

    But I screwed up buffing Guy and having Stone Press ready at the end, and then it all ended right quick.

    I'm debating if I should dive Guy (got his BSB to imperil when a stone press isn't imminent), and I can't decide if Ingus is worth it for his shield and some light damage. I could go with Tifa for radiant and OSB, or Alphinaud for radiant and buff, or just cut radiant out all together for something else.

    Also wondering if it's worth picking up Bartz's triplecast LMR from the dream select.

    Ultimately I gotta learn Quetz's patterns, I'm getting better at the start at least!

    Huh. I've got most of that - Bartz USB1 instead of Glint, Elarra instead of Aerith, no Ignis BSB... And I have Cinque and Galuf BSBs. Is Ignis BSB sufficiently fantastic that I should do a Dream Select pull to grab it? It seems to be showing up in a lot of 5* Magicite parties in Japan (and now here, I guess?). Do Ignis's buffs last for one hit, or a certain number of hits, or 15 seconds?

    Also, any opinions on whether Cinque or Galuf is better for Heavy with just BSB?

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Ignis BSB's buffs are 25 seconds, which is pretty great. The only problem is if it runs you into the damage cap.

    Pretty sure it's not on this Dream Select, though. Maybe next time.

  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Sadly Ice Tech might be my best tech. After that I'd say Water (Rikku Chain + Tidus USB + ASB). Regardless I think I'm gonna focus on realm stuff I still need.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Sadly Ice Tech might be my best tech. After that I'd say Water (Rikku Chain + Tidus USB + ASB). Regardless I think I'm gonna focus on realm stuff I still need.

    That's, um, pretty good water tech. Chain + Arcane can help you blow through the bullshit last phase of the fight. If you have a decent healer with last stand and/or magic blink, you should be able to get a win there, assuming your hones are decent (you probably want R3 Sapphire Shots for both Rikku and Tidus, and either a spellblader or a ninja as your third DPS).

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Okay... I'm starting to see a potential path to killing Quetzalcoatl. I've only got about halfway so far, but it seems like a team that might be able to do it, and I've progressed to planning out each turn instead of flailing armlessly at the boss. It's probably gonna take some more Legend dives (for example, Ovelia needs more healing power on her USB, and Gladiolus needs that buildup on hits taken LM2 for leeway with Stone Press), but I might be able to make this work eventually. And even if it doesn't work, it's a strategy that can easily slot in an Earth Chain or Onion Ninja as an upgrade, if I one day get those.

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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    I got Palom and Barb USBs and LMRs and am at work grinding the absurd amount of wisdom motes needed to legend dive them

    Figure my IV nutorment team will be Tellah BSB at the top to sacrifice, Palom USB, Barb USB, Edge SSB, Rosa USB

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Palom USB does mean that the person who gets Darkness'd will come back via Reraise.

    Edit:

    Dangit, I mixed up the twins again. That's the effect of Porom's USB.

    Enlong on
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Lucky, Crystal Tower, and Newcomers relic draws are on their way out near the end of the month.

    Instead we will have Realm relic draws (1st pull is 15 mythril, full price afterwards) and Full throttle relic draw (500 gem one-time pull, then you select an OSB/BSB/healer BSB from a realm)

    I'll see if I can dig up the full throttle select list, ive seen it somewhere before.

    Edit: and here it is
    FFI: Warrior of Light OSSB + BSSB and Sarah BSSB
    FFII: Firion OSSB + BSSB and Minwu BSSB2
    FFIII: Luneth OSSB + BSSB and Aria BSSB
    FFIV: Paladin Cecil OSSB + BSSB and Porom BSSB
    FFV: Bartz OSSB + BSSB2 and Lenna BSSB1
    FFVI: Terra OSSB + BSSB2 and Relm BSSB
    FFVII: Cloud OSSB + BSSB2 and Aerith BSSB2
    FFVIII: Squall OSSB + BSSB2 and Selphie BSSB2
    FFIX: Zidane OSSB + BSSB1 and Eiko BSSB
    FFX: Tidus OSSB + BSSB2 and Yuna BSSB2
    FFXI: Ayame OSSB + BSSB and Aphmau BSSB
    FFXII: Vaan OSSB + BSSB and Penelo BSSB2
    FFXIII: Lightning OSSB + BSSB2 and Vanille BSSB
    FFXIV: Papalymo OSSB + BSSB and Y'shtola BSSB
    FFXV: Noctis OSSB + BSSB and Iris BSSB
    FFT: Agrias OSSB + BSSB and Ovelia BSSB2
    Type-0: Ace OSSB + BSSB and Deuce BSSB

    Elderlycrawfish on
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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    30.44, grr. I'll get this 280 before 30s SOMETIME.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Edit: and here it is
    FFI: Warrior of Light BSSB and Sarah BSSB
    FFII: Firion OSSB + BSSB and Minwu BSSB2
    FFIII: Aria BSSB
    FFIV: Paladin Cecil OSSB + BSSB and Porom BSSB
    FFV: Bartz OSSB + BSSB2
    FFVI:
    FFVII: Cloud BSSB2 and Aerith BSSB2
    FFVIII: Squall OSSB and Selphie BSSB2
    FFIX: Zidane OSSB + BSSB1
    FFX: Yuna BSSB2
    FFXI:
    FFXII: Vaan OSSB + BSSB
    FFXIII:
    FFXIV: Papalymo OSSB
    FFXV: Noctis OSSB
    FFT: Agrias OSSB + BSSB and Ovelia BSSB2
    Type-0: Ace OSSB

    Removed everything I have already. kinda annoyed at myself for having previously selected Squall's burst because then VIII would probably make the most sense.

    Gonna have to think on this, but kinda leaning V just to have another elemental burst for Bartz and that OSB's element coverage since I've got his glint. Or Tactics, but I've got Agrias's USB.

    Hmmmm

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    FF1 is the best value for me as I have no dupes; though there are a few realms where it might be worth eating a dupe or two for something a little more desired.

    Quetzalcoatl trial runs continue. Much failure, nowhere near as good as before either. My kingdom for a chain

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