Amazon workers are still striking transnationally I think

Madican

I have someone asking me if it still counts as supporting the strike if they use pre-existing Amazon credit.

I want to say no but not sure. Technically Amazon's not getting money from it still? But on the other hand it'd probably be against the spirit of the strike.

OmnipotentBagel

Madican wrote: »

I have someone asking me if it still counts as supporting the strike if they use pre-existing Amazon credit.

I want to say no but not sure. Technically Amazon's not getting money from it still? But on the other hand it'd probably be against the spirit of the strike.

Yeah it's still a sale, and that matters.

MalReynolds

OmnipotentBagel wrote: »

Madican wrote: »

I have someone asking me if it still counts as supporting the strike if they use pre-existing Amazon credit.

I want to say no but not sure. Technically Amazon's not getting money from it still? But on the other hand it'd probably be against the spirit of the strike.

Yeah it's still a sale, and that matters.

That, plus it means the labor hours that are being undervalued are still being used by Amazon.

Everything from advertising to logistics to page views nets the company money that isn't going to the workers and it disincentivizes change, be it pay or improved working conditions, because people are still proving the service has value over the wellbeing of the worker during the strike.

Brainleech

Really I support the ideal the workers are going for as I deal with the same shit on a different level
But sale wise there is nothing I really want from it

OmnipotentBagel

Yeah I feel kind of bad even using my credit card because it's an Amazon card, but that part is kind of unavoidable for me.

Tox

So apparently there were some reports that Amazon's website was buggy/crashy as fuck yesterday. I wouldn't know cuz I wasn't on it, but, yeah.

Mission Accomplished?

Doobh

supposedly because the site got overloaded? it's very believable

either way, GOOD, I HOPE YOUR SITE CHOKES JEFF BEZOS

OmnipotentBagel

Yeah anyone using AWS had some level of issue yesterday because of traffic.

Brolo

Tox wrote: »

So apparently there were some reports that Amazon's website was buggy/crashy as fuck yesterday. I wouldn't know cuz I wasn't on it, but, yeah.

Mission Accomplished?

Nope:



http://fortune.com/2018/07/17/amazon-prime-day-sales-website-crashes-worker-strikes/

Ranlin

Man, way to fuck this one up too, humanity.

I needed anime to post.

Frankly if you aren't Very Online you probably never heard about this. This was not particularly reported on.

furlion

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

Frankly if you aren't Very Online you probably never heard about this. This was not particularly reported on.

I saw it mentioned literally no where else but here.

Sorce

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

Frankly if you aren't Very Online you probably never heard about this. This was not particularly reported on.

Yeah, I mentioned it to my parents after the fact and they hadn't heard of it (big TV watchers, not very Internet-savvy).

They ended up coincidentally not buying anything anyway, but my Dad was all geared up to boycott Amazon.

Tallahasseeriel

I own exactly the one Amazon device and only shop there very rarely anyway.

sometimes I get an audible book or kindle book or something when I do but that's it.

I don't understand people's obsession with prime and stuff. like I just don't shop enough to make it a good value. but then I don't have a ton of income to spend.

Brolo

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

Frankly if you aren't Very Online you probably never heard about this. This was not particularly reported on.

yeah a very loosely organized online boycott, to support one group of foreign workers, was very likely gonna fail

it also didn't help that the only real consequences of crossing a virtual picket line is maybe feeling a little guilty? but nobody but you is ever going to know about it

I needed anime to post.

Brolo wrote: »

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

Frankly if you aren't Very Online you probably never heard about this. This was not particularly reported on.

yeah a very loosely organized online boycott, to support one group of foreign workers, was very likely gonna fail

it also didn't help that the only real consequences of crossing a virtual picket line is maybe feeling a little guilty? but nobody but you is ever going to know about it

Amazon is also so big that it's very easy to talk yourself into the futility of the action

Dedwrekka

Jeff Bezos was just determined to be the richest person in modern history according to the Bloomberg billionaire index.

What a shit.

Cello

I needed a gnome to post. wrote: »

Frankly if you aren't Very Online you probably never heard about this. This was not particularly reported on.

I only found out about it like two days ago

And even then I didn't realize it was a transnational strike, I thought it was just workers in Spain

An effort like this could succeed but would need waaaaaay more ramp-up, at least on this side of the planet

Bizazedo

Are there any details as to the miserable wages / salaries / complaints? I read the OP, but quite frankly their statement wasn't detailed as to their actual issues (We make x, min wage is y, poverty line is z or we work x hours a week etc) to make me really get behind it.

DouglasDanger

Cool, the assholes cops are assaulting the workers in Spain

https://gizmodo.com/amazon-warehouse-strike-in-spain-reportedly-results-in-1827676740

Doobh

ACAB

DouglasDanger

I need to figure out how to cut ties with Amazon.

That police brutality and the strike and Bezos being declared the richest person in all of human history is too much for me

Couscous

My problem is that around here it is pretty much Walmart or Amazon when it comes to a lot of goods.

Doobh

if those are your options, those are your options

while avoiding asshole companies is commendable, 'there's no ethical consumption under capitalism'

you still gotta eat, you still need stuff to maintain a decent living condition with

King Riptor

DouglasDanger wrote: »

I need to figure out how to cut ties with Amazon.

That police brutality and the strike and Bezos being declared the richest person in all of human history is too much for me

Actually people should invest in amazon stock group up and force Bezos out.

Reginald

There is ethical consumption in late stage capitalism. It's called buying locally, going without, and supporting local business. I understand not all needs can be met in this way, but the buy local movement shouldn't be discounted.

bowen

Reginald wrote: »

There is ethical consumption in late stage capitalism. It's called buying locally, going without, and supporting local business. I understand not all needs can be met in this way, but the buy local movement shouldn't be discounted.

Unfortunately, that is out of the reach of affordability for most people.

OmnipotentBagel

King Riptor wrote: »

DouglasDanger wrote: »

I need to figure out how to cut ties with Amazon.

That police brutality and the strike and Bezos being declared the richest person in all of human history is too much for me

Actually people should invest in amazon stock group up and force Bezos out.

Good plan we'll fix this behemoth of capitalist exploitation by making the most wealthy man on earth as well as all the shitbirds who are complicit and also profiting off so much suffering even richer.

King Riptor

Reginald wrote: »

There is ethical consumption in late stage capitalism. It's called buying locally, going without, and supporting local business. I understand not all needs can be met in this way, but the buy local movement shouldn't be discounted.

Yeah but if youre poor ,in a bad location or have a disability Amazon might be a your only option

Shorty

also: local businesses also exploit their workers most of the time

OmnipotentBagel

Also Amazon has been pretty successfully strangling local business. There's a lot of stuff I used to be able to reliably find locally that I can't anymore.

Tube

It is literally impossible to force Bezos out by buying Amazon stock.

Doobh

there's also a lot to be said for where those small businesses get their products and raw materials from

Shorty

if you ever buy anything made out of plastic, especially toys and electronics, you're contributing to a lot of nasty shit going down in China

the takeaway here shouldn't be "you're bad for wanting things", it should be "CEOs, stockholders, and executives need to be reminded that paying decent wages was the deal they made to avoid the guillotine"

Doobh

I regularly think about how the major players in causing global climate change could be fit on all of two busses

and I think we should send those buses straight into the ocean

OmnipotentBagel

Doobh wrote: »

I regularly think about how the major players in causing global climate change could be fit on all of two busses

and I think we should send those buses straight into the ocean

A small pollution to stave off much bigger pollution

Doobh

they'll leave this world in the same way they callously tried to destroy it

King Riptor

OmnipotentBagel wrote: »

King Riptor wrote: »

DouglasDanger wrote: »

I need to figure out how to cut ties with Amazon.

That police brutality and the strike and Bezos being declared the richest person in all of human history is too much for me

Actually people should invest in amazon stock group up and force Bezos out.

Good plan we'll fix this behemoth of capitalist exploitation by making the most wealthy man on earth as well as all the shitbirds who are complicit and also profiting off so much suffering even richer.

Exactly!

Shorty

I'd film the whole thing and ask Philip Glass to score it

Tube

We have a lot of liability around jokes (or otherwise) that contain violent threats so I would ask people to do those somewhere else please.