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Manticores and Manicures: a Well Groomed Table Top Thread.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0786966599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532274931&sr=8-1&keywords=guildmaster's+guide+to+ravnica
    Explore a worldwide cityscape filled to the brim with adventure and intrigue in this campaign setting for the world's greatest roleplaying game

    A perpetual haze of dreary rain hangs over the spires of Ravnica. Bundled against the weather, the cosmopolitan citizens in all their fantastic diversity go about their daily business in bustling markets and shadowy back alleys. Through it all, ten guilds--crime syndicates, scientific institutions, church hierarchies, military forces, judicial courts, buzzing swarms, and rampaging gangs--vie for power, wealth, and influence. These guilds are the foundation of power on Ravnica. They have existed for millennia, and each one has its own identity and civic function, its own diverse collection of races and creatures, and its own distinct subculture. Their history is a web of wars, intrigue, and political machinations as they have vied for control of the plane.

    For the first time, a Magic the Gathering setting is getting an official, fully featured D&D supplemental book

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    For a second I had that backwards in my head and I thought you meant there was going to be an official DnD supplement for MtG.

    This is waaaaaaaaay better.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0786966599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532274931&sr=8-1&keywords=guildmaster's+guide+to+ravnica
    Explore a worldwide cityscape filled to the brim with adventure and intrigue in this campaign setting for the world's greatest roleplaying game

    A perpetual haze of dreary rain hangs over the spires of Ravnica. Bundled against the weather, the cosmopolitan citizens in all their fantastic diversity go about their daily business in bustling markets and shadowy back alleys. Through it all, ten guilds--crime syndicates, scientific institutions, church hierarchies, military forces, judicial courts, buzzing swarms, and rampaging gangs--vie for power, wealth, and influence. These guilds are the foundation of power on Ravnica. They have existed for millennia, and each one has its own identity and civic function, its own diverse collection of races and creatures, and its own distinct subculture. Their history is a web of wars, intrigue, and political machinations as they have vied for control of the plane.

    For the first time, a Magic the Gathering setting is getting an official, fully featured D&D supplemental book

    I'm surprised it took them this long, because a number of settings are just perfect for it.

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  • descdesc said baby boy you’re only funky as your last cut Registered User regular
    Whaaaaaaat

    Want it

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    i actually support a kickstarter for dog adventurer models the other day.

    it was a good idea.

    I wanted to talk about that here but wasn't sure what the rules on kickstarter talk were now

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I think the rule is you can talk about kickstarters but you can't link them, if people care they will look them up on their own

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    I think the rule is you can talk about kickstarters but you can't link them, if people care they will look them up on their own

    I wanna post the pictures mainly because the models rule

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I wanna see these illegal dog miniature pictures

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    this was a sting, you're under arrest pip
    you should have asked me if I was a cop

    also this kickstarter is EXTREMELY on-brand for you

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    I think the rule is you can talk about kickstarters but you can't link them, if people care they will look them up on their own

    I wanna post the pictures mainly because the models rule

    these ones?

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    Those dog minis are the fucking best, I legit freaked out a lot when I saw them for the first time

    Also, speaking of kickstarters — that Trogdor game looks surprisingly well done, I kinda really want to back it but I have so many games I already never play

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    is that an image for ants

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    I really hope a cat adventurers kickstarter happens sometime, too

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    yes it is an image for you pip.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    yes it is an image for you pip.

    please crush me

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
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    they are nice sculpts

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Anzekay wrote: »
    I really hope a cat adventurers kickstarter happens sometime, too

    this seems like as good a time as any to link this blind box figure i got last month

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    I really hope a cat adventurers kickstarter happens sometime, too

    this seems like as good a time as any to link this blind box figure i got last month


    truth in advertising I guess

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo But do you really believe him? Registered User regular
    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0786966599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532274931&sr=8-1&keywords=guildmaster's+guide+to+ravnica
    Explore a worldwide cityscape filled to the brim with adventure and intrigue in this campaign setting for the world's greatest roleplaying game

    A perpetual haze of dreary rain hangs over the spires of Ravnica. Bundled against the weather, the cosmopolitan citizens in all their fantastic diversity go about their daily business in bustling markets and shadowy back alleys. Through it all, ten guilds--crime syndicates, scientific institutions, church hierarchies, military forces, judicial courts, buzzing swarms, and rampaging gangs--vie for power, wealth, and influence. These guilds are the foundation of power on Ravnica. They have existed for millennia, and each one has its own identity and civic function, its own diverse collection of races and creatures, and its own distinct subculture. Their history is a web of wars, intrigue, and political machinations as they have vied for control of the plane.

    For the first time, a Magic the Gathering setting is getting an official, fully featured D&D supplemental book

    It will be interesting to see how much effort they make to translate the mechanics

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    the best part about a Magic the Gathering book is that any of that material can be slipped into an existing game if the GM is cool with it - kinda hope it's regarded along the same lines that SCAG is, a sort of default "yeah it's in"

    also it might get me invested in the setting! possibly one of the intentions behind this book, create a larger shared audience between D&D and MtG

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I haven't cared about an official D&D setting since Eberron, so this is very neat

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    I love ravnica's world-city aesthetic
    a nice thing about being a MTG setting is there's a ton of concept art sitting around for it
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/look-return-ravnica-2012-09-25

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    I agree this is cool there are other worlds? of MTg that would be interesting if translated into a D&D format. This is why I feel this is a test bed to see how it plays out

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  • descdesc said baby boy you’re only funky as your last cut Registered User regular
    As a Ravnica setting fan I'm thrilled

    It's a very RPG-able setting and the guilds themselves are clear and flavorful for players to use

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  • astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    Ravnica also seems very conducive to receiving a 13th Age homebrew treatment with Guild Leaders subbing in for Icons.

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    finally, i have make Jace Do'Urden

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    I really hope a cat adventurers kickstarter happens sometime, too

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    so what about instead of archaic vs modern for ranged, it is string vs gunpowder?
    manual vs automatic was another one, but bolt rifles aren't really automatic

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    so what about instead of archaic vs modern for ranged, it is string vs gunpowder?
    manual vs automatic was another one, but bolt rifles aren't really automatic

    Trigger vs manual? Like, aiming a crossbow amd aiming a rifle seem similar. Reload is different, but...

    Compare to manual stuff like bows or slings.

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Melding wrote: »
    so what about instead of archaic vs modern for ranged, it is string vs gunpowder?
    manual vs automatic was another one, but bolt rifles aren't really automatic

    Trigger vs manual? Like, aiming a crossbow amd aiming a rifle seem similar. Reload is different, but...

    Compare to manual stuff like bows or slings.

    yeah, crossbows enter this weird area, where in a lot of cases, are they really that different than a rifle?

    and in some ways they really are, the don't recoil back for example. in a lot of ways they could be used in either skill house, though i think setting wise i want them to fall more in line with bows and such. they fall more under archery than rifle usage in my brain.

    it should also be noted that throwing weapons fall under these skills, like axes and grenades.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    so what about instead of archaic vs modern for ranged, it is string vs gunpowder?
    manual vs automatic was another one, but bolt rifles aren't really automatic

    Is this in terms of class breakdown? Skill breakdown? What is the extent of ranged weaponry choices in the game? Does it include thrown weapons like javelins?

    I could see a gunpowder vs muscle powered split, more or less.

  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Melding wrote: »
    so what about instead of archaic vs modern for ranged, it is string vs gunpowder?
    manual vs automatic was another one, but bolt rifles aren't really automatic

    Is this in terms of class breakdown? Skill breakdown? What is the extent of ranged weaponry choices in the game? Does it include thrown weapons like javelins?

    I could see a gunpowder vs muscle powered split, more or less.

    it is a split in skill used to use the weapon. one class includes: throwing axes, javelins, bows, and crossbows. the other includes pocket pistols handguns, carbines, rifles, and other small arms firearms.

    larger ones like mounted machine guns would use gunnery.

  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    I really hope a cat adventurers kickstarter happens sometime, too

    My one-shot of Call of Cat-thulhu would have benefited if I'd had great kitty minis. Could have spun off into an actual campaign.

    Anyway, I am baffled that M:tG hasn't already been a core D&D camapign world for years. Wizards has been just leaving that money on the table?

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Melding wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Melding wrote: »
    so what about instead of archaic vs modern for ranged, it is string vs gunpowder?
    manual vs automatic was another one, but bolt rifles aren't really automatic

    Is this in terms of class breakdown? Skill breakdown? What is the extent of ranged weaponry choices in the game? Does it include thrown weapons like javelins?

    I could see a gunpowder vs muscle powered split, more or less.

    it is a split in skill used to use the weapon. one class includes: throwing axes, javelins, bows, and crossbows. the other includes pocket pistols handguns, carbines, rifles, and other small arms firearms.

    larger ones like mounted machine guns would use gunnery.

    Nah, that makes sense. Powder or not is a sensible way to break it down.

    I would argue that crossbows DO have recoil, it's just barely there (Newton's laws demand it).

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  • RingoRingo Out of things to say Heartbreak HillRegistered User regular
    Loud vs Hidden still seems like the divide there to me

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Crossbows definitely have recoil. Bows have recoil. A high enough powered crossbow probably has somewhat noticeable recoil (maybe not compared to a gun but it is still there). There are some things that make crossbow handling unique compared to say a gun, like how the bolt leaps up some fired.

    You can see that around the 25 minute mark of this video, for example: (Video also talks about the recoil and the crack sound it makes when firing around 16 minutes)



    On Loud vs Hidden: That seems a weird split to me when you've got things like guns that can shoot subsonic rounds with silencers (not sure of Melding's games tech goes that advanced though?) and things like a throwing Javelin which would be hard to use in an effective way that could be described as hidden.

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  • webguy20webguy20 Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Crossbows definitely have recoil. Bows have recoil. A high enough powered crossbow probably has somewhat noticeable recoil (maybe not compared to a gun but it is still there). There are some things that make crossbow handling unique compared to say a gun, like how the bolt leaps up some fired.

    You can see that around the 25 minute mark of this video, for example: (Video also talks about the recoil and the crack sound it makes when firing around 16 minutes)



    On Loud vs Hidden: That seems a weird split to me when you've got things like guns that can shoot subsonic rounds with silencers (not sure of Melding's games tech goes that advanced though?) and things like a throwing Javelin which would be hard to use in an effective way that could be described as hidden.

    Subsonic rounds through a silencer are still loud in a way that a well dampended bow is not. I could see a split there.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Crossbows definitely have recoil. Bows have recoil. A high enough powered crossbow probably has somewhat noticeable recoil (maybe not compared to a gun but it is still there). There are some things that make crossbow handling unique compared to say a gun, like how the bolt leaps up some fired.

    You can see that around the 25 minute mark of this video, for example: (Video also talks about the recoil and the crack sound it makes when firing around 16 minutes)



    On Loud vs Hidden: That seems a weird split to me when you've got things like guns that can shoot subsonic rounds with silencers (not sure of Melding's games tech goes that advanced though?) and things like a throwing Javelin which would be hard to use in an effective way that could be described as hidden.

    Subsonic rounds through a silencer are still loud in a way that a well dampended bow is not. I could see a split there.

    I think hidden is the term I take more issue with. You can be prone at a long range and be far more hidden with a gun that you could hope to be with a throwing javelin that involves you know, standing up right and running and close ranges.

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  • RingoRingo Out of things to say Heartbreak HillRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I can see how hidden isn't a good catch all

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    what archery i've done, which isn't a whole bunch, most bow weapons pull forward before back because of the momentum of the object being fired. rifles is mostly just back with some pull up. i wasn't trying to say crossbows don't have recoil.

    anyway, loud and hidden is a really weird split to make, because silencers do exist. While .45acp fired out of short barrel with a supressor is still fiarly loud, it would likely be easier to remain hidden with that that a longbow because you don't need so much room to operate, muzzle flash is usually obscured by suppressors, and the way the muffle sound makes it hard to pinpoint the origin. so while you'd know sooner you have a sniper on you, finding that sniper would take longer.

    that is why i figured origin of propulsion makes more sense. if it an explosion hurling metal, or a string hurling metal makes for a cleaner narrative split to me.

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