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you can't swim whenyou've been dead a hundred yearsRegistered User, Transition Team regular
you can't swim whenyou've been dead a hundred yearsRegistered User, Transition Team regular
In which we will probably continue talking about shitty people getting other shitty people fired from awesome jobs.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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Is that a movie I should see
Yeah, Disney needs to not hire anther older white dude as his replacement.
This ain't a call-out or an invitation to fight, but this post helped my codify one of my many conflicted feelings, here. The phrase "proven that they've moved on from them." Who got to decide that? Him? He forgave himself? Or a corporation that wanted him to make them money forgave him? Did the folks who were hurt by his shit "jokes" forgive him? I genuinely don't know if they have, because nobody's talking to them (yet)
There's this assumption in the narrative building around this. That, because he deleted his shit, he has moved on. But I'm not sure he gets to make the call on "moving on." His remorse is not equal to his redemption; I haven't heard anything about him contributing to sexual assault education/recovery organizations, of seeking to make amends with victims, any of that. I've only heard that he deleted some Tweets and hates Trump. Maybe he's done all that other stuff! If he has, maybe that should be the focus of the talk of his redemptive arc, rather than "It was a while ago and he feels bad."
And to restate something from the tail end of the last thread: I have several feelings about this issue, and about corporations caving to bad faith trolls. That I am not exploring those feelings in this particular post does not mean I don't have them.
This would be ideal
And five years from now I'll look back and say "What an idiot."
So I don't have twitter.
I'm now being told that if I post that... oh wow, I didn't even know Geth could do that.
I AM SO ON BOARD FOR THIS.
Another Marvel series where I'd only like the third movie.
do you like the Arthurian mythos? It is the most faithful retelling of those stories on film.
how about we give every single Marvel property to Taika Waititi
The remorse vs redemption is something that I hadn't really thought about, and you're right. Not the same thing, and one has no bearing on the other.
Your mention of charity actually reminded me of another thing he had done a little while back that kind of skeeved me out:
https://www.thewrap.com/james-gunn-trump-scale-100000-charity/
Essentially, he offered to donate a bunch of money to charity if Donald Trump publicly got on a scale to prove his weight.
Which... Look, I hate the man with a passion, but I'm never going to be okay with making it about his appearance or weight, and especially not mocking those things, and ESPECIALLY not holding a charitable donation over it.
Wachowski Sisters would maybe be a gamble (I love some of their movies but most of them put me to sleep), but I'd totally be interested in seeing what they could do with it at least.
I don't think that's so much a fat joke as it is a you're a fucking clownshoes transparent narcissist liar statement.
They'd probably want some time to pass right now before announcing that they're giving stuff to the funny Hitler guy.
You're right, I don't know if he's proven that he's moved on or not. Just speaking from my own experience in having been and continuing to be around people who live in a lot of shame and regret for who they were; perhaps it's something I should better divorce from large-profile things like this. It probably isn't helpful.
I shall answer your question with another question.
How the fuck have you not seen Excalibur!?!
Also,
Do you want to see younger, buffer, Patrick Stewart?
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Even before today's developments I would have an exceedingly hard time taking James Gunn's jokes as having nuance.
oh shit I forgot he floated that idea
damn it
That was amongst close family members and it's something I've used humour to deal with for a long long time.
Making a dumb joke on Twitter just out of the blue like that for no other reason than being edgy or whatever the fuck is a head scratcher. It's not funny. It's offensive to people who don't want to read about rape or be reminded of past trauma. It's just plain dumb.
Should he have been fired? I'm not sure. Yeah. Probably. But if we really get down to it if Disney gave an actual fuck he'd never even had the job to begin with.
Disney is a real shitty company that's honestly bordering on a fucking monopoly with the moves by their company.
I mean how can they take the moral high ground when shitbags like Johnny Depp keep getting paid to phone in some crap for them? Dude is a spousal abusing drug fiend and this isn't a secret. So yeah. Fuck Gunn. Fuck Disney. And fuck the asses that got this controversy rolling.
With all that said I heard there's a trailer for glass out. Imma check that shit out and report back to you fine folk.
by floated do you mean he's making it into a movie?
Jojo Rabbit, starring Taiki Waititi as Adolf Hitler: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2584384/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1
THIS MAN WAS NOT KIDDING.
Idea?
I thought he canceled the project. did he not cancel the project?
wow that is maybe the most unbelievably poor taste.
TAIKA WHY
He's commented on it in a way that I'm actually pretty confident that, despite not playing the character from a realistic point of view, he is not about to redeem the man in any way.
https://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/jojo-rabbit-taika-waititi-hitler-1201970191/
But like
Where's the line there? He made a joke about pedophilia and rape victims, and yeah that would have been more widely accepted then but they were still fucking monstrous and horrid. Do you give a pass to every horrible thing someone did or said because it was before everyone got more socially aware?
It's the same kind of shit as people giving racist grandparents a pass because they were raised "in a different time".
It's a murky issue because most people are guilty of being a horrible shitstain online, or otherwise, when they were younger (myself included) but at some point it's just an excuse to give a pass for past behavior, whether it is earned or not.
This is the film equivalent of a clickbait article that's just designed to enrage people with some poorly supported contrarian opinion so everyone will talk about "Look at how fucking awful this is!"
I wouldn't even do it the justice of calling it 'in poor taste' because it's in no taste. It's calculated and simple and deserves as little attention as possible.
From everything I've read about it, I'm optimistic that he handles it pretty well. I'm fully aware the one-line summary makes it sound baaaaaaaad. But there's almost certainly more to it than that.