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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    I was chuckling today thinking about the tracking chip conspiracy people and their dire worry about being tracked.

    As they post about how worried they are from the GPS device in their pocket

    It's sad what our conspiracy nuts have come to honestly. Back in the 90s these people were fucking committed to the cause. They were living in trailers off the grid and shit.

    To be fair, it was easier to convince oneself that they weren’t missing much, then. Now, the internet is basically a necessity, no matter what providers try to convince government agencies of otherwise.

    It's easier to do without a phone and mailing address than internet.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    I was chuckling today thinking about the tracking chip conspiracy people and their dire worry about being tracked.

    As they post about how worried they are from the GPS device in their pocket

    It's sad what our conspiracy nuts have come to honestly. Back in the 90s these people were fucking committed to the cause. They were living in trailers off the grid and shit.

    To be fair, it was easier to convince oneself that they weren’t missing much, then. Now, the internet is basically a necessity, no matter what providers try to convince government agencies of otherwise.

    90s television tells me those people could still get on the internet.

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited February 9
    You certainly could, but it wasn't a particular necessity of life. Social media wasn't a thing, video content was worthless, there was no internet option to cut cable TV, jobs still used the classifieds, your grandma in Florida used the phone and not Facebook, music downloads were only of the illegal kind, even the porn was mostly nothing you couldn't get in magazines and was either expensive paysites, virus ridden messes, or a free trial where the picture series stopped before the good part.

    There wasn't even a free encyclopedia or maps for most of the 90s. World Book was online if you'd bought an expensive paper encyclopedia and then paid extra, or Encarta with a subscription, so even for reference and research it was mostly library time.

    Also, for most people for most of the 90's it tied up the phone line which is how everyone kept in touch, so if you didn't have two lines you had to limit time and shut it off if somebody else needed the phone.

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  • ZavianZavian Senātus Populusque Rōmānus Registered User regular
    edited February 9
    Oh no you see you want them to know where you are. That way, you know they know you know

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited February 9
    The New York Times released an article on QAnon today.
    In San Juan Capistrano, Calif., Pam Patterson, a city council member, invoked QAnon in her farewell speech to the body in December 2018, reciting a Q posting as if it were Scripture.

    “To quote Q No. 2436,” she said, “for far too long, we have been silent and allowed our bands of strength that we once formed to defend freedom and liberty to deteriorate. We became divided. We became weak. We elected traitors to govern us.”

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited February 10
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    Bitter cold? It's been the most mild winter I have ever experienced in my whole life in Wisconsin. It has not been below zero a single at all, maybe not even into the single digits.

    But, they are right. There has been a massive, planet wide geoengineering effort for the last couple hundred years. We just weren't doing it on purpose, and we are now feeling the fruits of that labor now

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Yeah...
    At almost 4 degrees above average, it was the 6th warmest January in the over 100 years of weather records in the region and the warmest one since 2006

    But that's just what they want you to think, obviously

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    The New York Times released an article on QAnon today.
    In San Juan Capistrano, Calif., Pam Patterson, a city council member, invoked QAnon in her farewell speech to the body in December 2018, reciting a Q posting as if it were Scripture.

    “To quote Q No. 2436,” she said, “for far too long, we have been silent and allowed our bands of strength that we once formed to defend freedom and liberty to deteriorate. We became divided. We became weak. We elected traitors to govern us.”

    It’s so odd, it’s like, you guys are in power! You can’t keep calling yourselves the underdogs!

    Oh and it’s also genuinely terrifying

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Ask me about my scrotalist agenda Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    Thats what I thought at first. But she's in California. So it makes sense from her perspective.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus premium Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Thats what I thought at first. But she's in California. So it makes sense from her perspective.

    Plenty of California is conservative when it comes to local politics. It's just that the cities are so populated that they're drowned out on the national level.

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  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Thats what I thought at first. But she's in California. So it makes sense from her perspective.

    Plenty of California is conservative when it comes to local politics. It's just that the cities are so populated that they're drowned out on the national level.

    The number of times I've stood behind people with MAGA hats at the grocery store, or people randomly trying to talk to me about how great Trump is, in the middle of San Francisco has been shocking.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The Earth is six sextillion ton rotor spinning at a thousand miles per hour; it's gonna throw off a couple joules.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The Earth is six sextillion ton rotor spinning at a thousand miles per hour; it's gonna throw off a couple joules.

    Not to mention all that solar radiation. And water has a tremendously high heat capacity as well.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    So what you are saying is they have an infinite energy machine to power all of it and aren't telling us.

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  • ZavianZavian Senātus Populusque Rōmānus Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The Earth is six sextillion ton rotor spinning at a thousand miles per hour; it's gonna throw off a couple joules.

    Earth is an alien motor engine CONFIRMED

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The more fun and slightly more plausible (but still not actually plausible) theory I'd heard from people I knew in meteorology in the US was that the government had some sort of directed EM wave device they used to try and break up cloud systems over certain key government installations out in the plains area in the middle of the country. It was something about there being a supposed shift in the frequency of certain kinds of weather events some time in the 60s or 70s.

    I'm trying to remember the gist of it but it was one of those fun theories because there was enough evidence when you looked at it that you couldn't immediately dismiss it and also it was harmless.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    So what you are saying is they have an infinite energy machine to power all of it and aren't telling us.

    Not infinite, but it's got a lot of life left in it...

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The more fun and slightly more plausible (but still not actually plausible) theory I'd heard from people I knew in meteorology in the US was that the government had some sort of directed EM wave device they used to try and break up cloud systems over certain key government installations out in the plains area in the middle of the country. It was something about there being a supposed shift in the frequency of certain kinds of weather events some time in the 60s or 70s.

    I'm trying to remember the gist of it but it was one of those fun theories because there was enough evidence when you looked at it that you couldn't immediately dismiss it and also it was harmless.

    We can do the reverse of that, maybe,
    Whether cloud seeding is effective in producing a statistically significant increase in precipitation is still a matter of academic debate, with contrasting results depending on the study in question, and contrasting opinion among experts.[7]

    A study conducted by the National Academy of Sciences failed to find statistically significant support for the effectiveness of cloud seeding. Based on the report's findings, Stanford University ecologist Rob Jackson said: "I think you can squeeze out a little more snow or rain in some places under some conditions, but that's quite different from a program claiming to reliably increase precipitation." Data similar to that of the NAS study was acquired in a separate study conducted by the Wyoming Weather Modification Pilot Project. However, whereas the NAS study concluded that "it is difficult to show clearly that cloud seeding has a very large effect," the WWMPP study concluded that "seeding could augment the snowpack by a maximum of 3% over an entire season."[8]

    ...

    However, Jeff Tilley, director of weather modification at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, claimed in 2016 that new technology and research has produced reliable results that make cloud seeding a dependable and affordable water supply practice for many regions.[12] Moreover, in 1998 the American Meteorological Society held that "precipitation from supercooled orographic clouds (clouds that develop over mountains) has been seasonally increased by about 10%." [13] [15]

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    Zavian wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The Earth is six sextillion ton rotor spinning at a thousand miles per hour; it's gonna throw off a couple joules.

    Earth is an alien motor engine CONFIRMED

    The Earth is just one small capacitor of many, and our arm of the Milky Way is actually a gigantic joy-buzzer intended to give Andromeda a playful shock in a few trillion(?) years.

    The various black holes aligning to form a flower that squirts them with gamma rays when they lean in to admire them.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The more fun and slightly more plausible (but still not actually plausible) theory I'd heard from people I knew in meteorology in the US was that the government had some sort of directed EM wave device they used to try and break up cloud systems over certain key government installations out in the plains area in the middle of the country. It was something about there being a supposed shift in the frequency of certain kinds of weather events some time in the 60s or 70s.

    I'm trying to remember the gist of it but it was one of those fun theories because there was enough evidence when you looked at it that you couldn't immediately dismiss it and also it was harmless.

    Are you thinking of the HAARP conspiracies?

    They are some of the best classic conspiracy theories out there

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The more fun and slightly more plausible (but still not actually plausible) theory I'd heard from people I knew in meteorology in the US was that the government had some sort of directed EM wave device they used to try and break up cloud systems over certain key government installations out in the plains area in the middle of the country. It was something about there being a supposed shift in the frequency of certain kinds of weather events some time in the 60s or 70s.

    I'm trying to remember the gist of it but it was one of those fun theories because there was enough evidence when you looked at it that you couldn't immediately dismiss it and also it was harmless.

    Are you thinking of the HAARP conspiracies?

    They are some of the best classic conspiracy theories out there

    Not quite since these people were from some university out of like Omaha or Kansas City or something like that. But similar idea, might be a descendant of that.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Ask me about my scrotalist agenda Registered User regular
    I hear HAARP conspiracies here in NZ. Its fairly pervasive.

  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    The idea is simple enough. Pump enough microwaves into the air and the temperature changes in water vapor could affect clouds. Though I sure as hell wouldn't want to be anywhere near a facility that could put out microwaves at the power levels required at that scale.

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    I wish our governments were half as organized and competent as the conspiracy theorists believe them to be, let alone that there was as much inter-organizational cooperation and data compatibility.

    When you apply for a TN visa at the US/Canada border, the border guy looks over your documents and decides whether or not to trust them.
    When you hand a foreign driver's license to whatever your country's equivalent of the DMV is, they look at it and decide "seems legit", make you do a test, and then issue you a new one.
    Modern hospitals have to fight to keep their own records straight during system upgrades, let alone connect them with other hospitals in the same country, let alone ones from other countries.

    Coordinated action at scale is actually really difficult, and the difficulty of it is often hard to imagine because there are plenty of cases of highly impactful smaller-scale actions or a government edict that can push a fair number of people into action. The fact that a lone gunman can shoot and kill an important person, or a small research group can make students act like monsters, or a push from a US health bureau can deliberately inflict syphilis on a few hundred unfortunate people.

    I still can't believe how few conspiracy theories there are about 4chan and google. Google in particular should be the most conspiracy-ed about thing to ever exist!

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    l_g wrote: »
    I wish our governments were half as organized and competent as the conspiracy theorists believe them to be, let alone that there was as much inter-organizational cooperation and data compatibility.

    When you apply for a TN visa at the US/Canada border, the border guy looks over your documents and decides whether or not to trust them.
    When you hand a foreign driver's license to whatever your country's equivalent of the DMV is, they look at it and decide "seems legit", make you do a test, and then issue you a new one.
    Modern hospitals have to fight to keep their own records straight during system upgrades, let alone connect them with other hospitals in the same country, let alone ones from other countries.

    Coordinated action at scale is actually really difficult, and the difficulty of it is often hard to imagine because there are plenty of cases of highly impactful smaller-scale actions or a government edict that can push a fair number of people into action. The fact that a lone gunman can shoot and kill an important person, or a small research group can make students act like monsters, or a push from a US health bureau can deliberately inflict syphilis on a few hundred unfortunate people.

    I still can't believe how few conspiracy theories there are about 4chan and google. Google in particular should be the most conspiracy-ed about thing to ever exist!

    maybe it is and we'll never know because its not indexed on google

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    l_g wrote: »
    I wish our governments were half as organized and competent as the conspiracy theorists believe them to be, let alone that there was as much inter-organizational cooperation and data compatibility.

    When you apply for a TN visa at the US/Canada border, the border guy looks over your documents and decides whether or not to trust them.
    When you hand a foreign driver's license to whatever your country's equivalent of the DMV is, they look at it and decide "seems legit", make you do a test, and then issue you a new one.
    Modern hospitals have to fight to keep their own records straight during system upgrades, let alone connect them with other hospitals in the same country, let alone ones from other countries.

    Coordinated action at scale is actually really difficult, and the difficulty of it is often hard to imagine because there are plenty of cases of highly impactful smaller-scale actions or a government edict that can push a fair number of people into action. The fact that a lone gunman can shoot and kill an important person, or a small research group can make students act like monsters, or a push from a US health bureau can deliberately inflict syphilis on a few hundred unfortunate people.

    I still can't believe how few conspiracy theories there are about 4chan and google. Google in particular should be the most conspiracy-ed about thing to ever exist!

    That's because at their core, conspiracy theories are aspirational science fiction. People don't want to think about horrible things that are already happening, they want to think about the horrible things that could happen if humanity was the best it could be.

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    A lot of conspiracy stuff is a continuation of superstition and old school religion. Its a lot more comforting to believe that there’s a grand order to things and bad stuff happens because you don’t sacrifice properly/some god hates you/etc than that there is no grand order and the universe shits on peoples head for no reason. A malevolent entity in charge could in theory be fought or appeased, chaos, disorder, incompetence, etc can’t be.

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    VishNub wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    I wish our governments were half as organized and competent as the conspiracy theorists believe them to be, let alone that there was as much inter-organizational cooperation and data compatibility.

    When you apply for a TN visa at the US/Canada border, the border guy looks over your documents and decides whether or not to trust them.
    When you hand a foreign driver's license to whatever your country's equivalent of the DMV is, they look at it and decide "seems legit", make you do a test, and then issue you a new one.
    Modern hospitals have to fight to keep their own records straight during system upgrades, let alone connect them with other hospitals in the same country, let alone ones from other countries.

    Coordinated action at scale is actually really difficult, and the difficulty of it is often hard to imagine because there are plenty of cases of highly impactful smaller-scale actions or a government edict that can push a fair number of people into action. The fact that a lone gunman can shoot and kill an important person, or a small research group can make students act like monsters, or a push from a US health bureau can deliberately inflict syphilis on a few hundred unfortunate people.

    I still can't believe how few conspiracy theories there are about 4chan and google. Google in particular should be the most conspiracy-ed about thing to ever exist!

    maybe it is and we'll never know because its not indexed on google

    Which is the search engine I should use if I want the TRUTH
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    I hear dropping acid and asking your cat has some pretty good feedback

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited February 10
    l_g wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    I wish our governments were half as organized and competent as the conspiracy theorists believe them to be, let alone that there was as much inter-organizational cooperation and data compatibility.

    When you apply for a TN visa at the US/Canada border, the border guy looks over your documents and decides whether or not to trust them.
    When you hand a foreign driver's license to whatever your country's equivalent of the DMV is, they look at it and decide "seems legit", make you do a test, and then issue you a new one.
    Modern hospitals have to fight to keep their own records straight during system upgrades, let alone connect them with other hospitals in the same country, let alone ones from other countries.

    Coordinated action at scale is actually really difficult, and the difficulty of it is often hard to imagine because there are plenty of cases of highly impactful smaller-scale actions or a government edict that can push a fair number of people into action. The fact that a lone gunman can shoot and kill an important person, or a small research group can make students act like monsters, or a push from a US health bureau can deliberately inflict syphilis on a few hundred unfortunate people.

    I still can't believe how few conspiracy theories there are about 4chan and google. Google in particular should be the most conspiracy-ed about thing to ever exist!

    maybe it is and we'll never know because its not indexed on google

    Which is the search engine I should use if I want the TRUTH
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    Dogpile still exists and basically merges all of them into one clusterfuck. The key to making sure the overlords can't tell what you're looking at is to ensure that it's as confusing as possible for yourself.

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    Thats why the QAnon flowchart is impenetrable to sheep minds.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Thats why the QAnon flowchart is impenetrable to sheep minds.

    I thought it was some Timecube business myself. Like, I can't understand the chart because I keep trying to read one spot at a time, but you actually have to be reading different spots in the past, present, and future, but do it all at the same time.

    You know what? I bet you need a tesseract-based decoding viewer for your third eye to work it all out.

  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    edited February 11
    VishNub wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    An odd conspiracy theory I have heard locally this year is how the weather is geoengineered, Over things like the extremely high winds we had last week [gusts of 50+mph} How bitter cold it was most of the winter. Because there is a storm coming early this week that while people in the orientation classes I am in for work it was very nice Sat and today many of them started talking about how the weather is being controlled though various means

    I once did the math on geoengineering. The combined global power output all channeled into a large enough reservoir of water, could create a modest sized isolated airmass thunderstorm. The amount of kinetic and thermal energy in weather systems is absolutely staggering.

    The more fun and slightly more plausible (but still not actually plausible) theory I'd heard from people I knew in meteorology in the US was that the government had some sort of directed EM wave device they used to try and break up cloud systems over certain key government installations out in the plains area in the middle of the country. It was something about there being a supposed shift in the frequency of certain kinds of weather events some time in the 60s or 70s.

    I'm trying to remember the gist of it but it was one of those fun theories because there was enough evidence when you looked at it that you couldn't immediately dismiss it and also it was harmless.

    We can do the reverse of that, maybe,
    Whether cloud seeding is effective in producing a statistically significant increase in precipitation is still a matter of academic debate, with contrasting results depending on the study in question, and contrasting opinion among experts.[7]

    A study conducted by the National Academy of Sciences failed to find statistically significant support for the effectiveness of cloud seeding. Based on the report's findings, Stanford University ecologist Rob Jackson said: "I think you can squeeze out a little more snow or rain in some places under some conditions, but that's quite different from a program claiming to reliably increase precipitation." Data similar to that of the NAS study was acquired in a separate study conducted by the Wyoming Weather Modification Pilot Project. However, whereas the NAS study concluded that "it is difficult to show clearly that cloud seeding has a very large effect," the WWMPP study concluded that "seeding could augment the snowpack by a maximum of 3% over an entire season."[8]

    ...

    However, Jeff Tilley, director of weather modification at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, claimed in 2016 that new technology and research has produced reliable results that make cloud seeding a dependable and affordable water supply practice for many regions.[12] Moreover, in 1998 the American Meteorological Society held that "precipitation from supercooled orographic clouds (clouds that develop over mountains) has been seasonally increased by about 10%." [13] [15]

    China on the other hand employs almost 40k people trying to the weather. Mostly by shooting the sky with shells and rockets.
    Beijing Weather Modification Office

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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    It's sad what our conspiracy nuts have come to honestly. Back in the 90s these people were fucking committed to the cause. They were living in trailers off the grid and shit.

    They "lived off the grid" because they couldn't afford to be on the grid. Spending all income on guns and gold certificates doesn't leave room for other things. Internet access got a lot cheaper and easier, doable on an old used smart phone, so they could afford it while still growing their dragon hoards of firearms.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited February 11
    This is conspiracy adjacent, I thought cloud seeding was never shown to actually work. Did technology change over the decades to where it does now? I know China was using it around the olympics to force rain storms before the clouds would reach the stadiums, or at least they stated they were.

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    This is conspiracy adjacent, I thought cloud seeding was never shown to actually work. Did technology change over the decades to where it does now? I know China was using it around the olympics to force rain storms before the clouds would reach the stadiums, or at least they stated they were.

    Iirc it has worked since the 50s or 60s, but you have to have some moisture to begin with. All it does is helps aggregate the existing moisture into rain clouds, it can't miraculously put up a gazillion gallons of water into the sky.

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    What are the current best conspiracy theories about Facebook that I should share with people to get them off of Facebook

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