While orbiting furry communities in late 90s & early 00s, I met a few zoophiles and their pets. I never got particularly close to them, but I went over to their houses and did mundane nerd things, RPGs or video games or whatnot.
I never, ever, ever got an inkling that their animals were abused or unhappy. Entirely the opposite; these zoos treated their pets like prized showdogs. High quality food, regular visits to professional groomers, etc. And the dogs were playful and social and cuddly towards humans.
Hmm I think I hit my progressive barrier reading this.
Lemme be clear that my anecdotal experience regarding casual visits to the apartments of a half-dozen or so nerds around the Silicon Valley almost 20 years ago should not be construed as a statement about all zoophiles everywhere. I'm not saying it's always okay or generally okay.
Aww sorry I wasn't coming after you. I never really though extensively about zoophilia before.
While orbiting furry communities in late 90s & early 00s, I met a few zoophiles and their pets. I never got particularly close to them, but I went over to their houses and did mundane nerd things, RPGs or video games or whatnot.
I never, ever, ever got an inkling that their animals were abused or unhappy. Entirely the opposite; these zoos treated their pets like prized showdogs. High quality food, regular visits to professional groomers, etc. And the dogs were playful and social and cuddly towards humans.
Hmm I think I hit my progressive barrier reading this.
The progressive barrier is very clear on whats allowed and what isnt: "With Consent Only". That means no kids and no animals, no matter how "happy" they might seem with the arrangement.
While orbiting furry communities in late 90s & early 00s, I met a few zoophiles and their pets. I never got particularly close to them, but I went over to their houses and did mundane nerd things, RPGs or video games or whatnot.
I never, ever, ever got an inkling that their animals were abused or unhappy. Entirely the opposite; these zoos treated their pets like prized showdogs. High quality food, regular visits to professional groomers, etc. And the dogs were playful and social and cuddly towards humans.
Hmm I think I hit my progressive barrier reading this.
Lemme be clear that my anecdotal experience regarding casual visits to the apartments of a half-dozen or so nerds around the Silicon Valley almost 20 years ago should not be construed as a statement about all zoophiles everywhere. I'm not saying it's always okay or generally okay.
Aww sorry I wasn't coming after you. I never really though extensively about zoophilia before.
I didn't feel like you were.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
While orbiting furry communities in late 90s & early 00s, I met a few zoophiles and their pets. I never got particularly close to them, but I went over to their houses and did mundane nerd things, RPGs or video games or whatnot.
I never, ever, ever got an inkling that their animals were abused or unhappy. Entirely the opposite; these zoos treated their pets like prized showdogs. High quality food, regular visits to professional groomers, etc. And the dogs were playful and social and cuddly towards humans.
Hmm I think I hit my progressive barrier reading this.
The progressive barrier is very clear on whats allowed and what isnt: "With Consent Only". That means no kids and no animals, no matter how "happy" they might seem with the arrangement.
I agree. The sex abuse I suffered as a child was definitely part curiousity on my part but taken advantage of by an adult. Pedophiles frequently say that kids are perfectly happy with what occurs. The horse article guy made a lot of the same justifications that practicing pedophiles make.
now if you gave the horse a human brain sure go for it
as we learned from Bulgakov's novel Heart of A Dog, that will cause the horse to quickly transform into a human so you'll only then have a very limited window to fuck before it's not really zoophilia
Bulgakov was a doctor so obviously it is true
(did you know he wrote A Young Doctor's Notebook which had that miniseries with John Hamm and Daniel Radcliffe? I did not realize that was him...)
now if you gave the horse a human brain sure go for it
as we learned from Bulgakov's novel Heart of A Dog, that will cause the horse to quickly transform into a human so you'll only then have a very limited window to fuck before it's not really zoophilia
Bulgakov was a doctor so obviously it is true
(did you know he wrote A Young Doctor's Notebook which had that miniseries with John Hamm and Daniel Radcliffe? I did not realize that was him...)
I loved A Young Doctor's Notebook
especially the part where john hamm and daniel radcliffe take a bath together
i mean the whole plot was moving and engaging et cet et cet
but bath tub
I think a lot of crime dramas struggle with that dilemma, yes
I personally find it hard to reconcile the politics of watching cop shows where the Hero is a Straight Shooter and the department is going to be Put Under a Microscope and that will ruin The Work, when it's played straight rather than just depicted as the ideology at work in departments
yeah I broadly do not have a lot of sympathy for the persecution fantasies of policemen being held back by Those Damn Politicians And Reporters.
I mean, sometimes I do. sometimes those groups do have a baleful influence on police work in actual real life (a detail left behind by the criminal is leaked to the press making it harder to catch them in future, a jurisdictional fight means the case is handed off to people with no background or interest in it, etc) and I am ok with that stuff when it's framed that way, as an occasional unfortunate reality of the occupation, rather than as some sort of call to action on the part of the audience to take up arms in defense of the thin blue line
Like 80% of all fiction just boils down to revenge and power fantasies, it just takes different shapes depending on who the focus is on. It's a very appealing premise because most of us feel that we're not getting what life owes us, and it's all the fault of some nebulous Other and that the system is always on the side of the Other. Wether reality corresponds to that or not rarely comes up
Maybe I should start doing cocaine, seems like a good weight loss method
Too slow.
Cut off one of your legs instead.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Alright, alright, I'll concede the article might not be very fair.
The main thing I had against Fargo the TV Show - and to be fair, I only watched a couple of episodes of it, 4 years ago - was the Billy Bob Thorton character. The heart of the original movie, to me, was that it was about mundane people in a mundane setting. So the idea of centering the show around your typical brilliant-manipulative-criminal-mastermind-who-just-wants-to-watch-the-world burn was a deeply boring one, to me.
It also didn't help that the TV show's theme tune of course didn't hold a candle to the original movie's deeply iconic and evocative theme.
As to that article's charge of it being misogynistic, I do remember it being very male dominated, like most TV shows, and also having a scene where a fairly two dimensional angry-shrewish-wife is brutally murdered, something you're not necessarily expected to root for but also weren't given much reason to root against. But maybe it got better as it went on, or maybe there were interesting female characters I'm forgetting.
the show is more of a sampler platter of the entire Coen oeuvre and Billy Bob Thornton's character isn't a criminal mastermind so much as a supernatural force of malignant, contagious, and probably supernatural evil - he's the biker in Raising Arizona, John Goodman in Barton Fink, or Anton Chigurh, and like those, the show is painting in some very blackly comic or outright nihilistic shades, which is not for everyone but which I certainly wouldn't call hollow
the main character of the show is a woman. if you only watched four episodes, you wouldn't know this as it copies the format of the Fargo movie - where Marge doesn't show up until like a half hour in - and like that movie, the world of the show expands as it goes on and we meet a town's worth of characters. which isn't to say that there shouldn't have been more women. there definitely should have.
but i don't think this writer was interested in taking a serious look at the show; i think they're playing some dumb zero-sum highlander "there can be only one" game where to elevate one thing they have to be shitty about something else. it's the sort of lazy internet garbage i have absolutely no interest in and which purportedly intelligent people ought to refrain from
I think a lot of crime dramas struggle with that dilemma, yes
I personally find it hard to reconcile the politics of watching cop shows where the Hero is a Straight Shooter and the department is going to be Put Under a Microscope and that will ruin The Work, when it's played straight rather than just depicted as the ideology at work in departments
yeah I broadly do not have a lot of sympathy for the persecution fantasies of policemen being held back by Those Damn Politicians And Reporters.
I mean, sometimes I do. sometimes those groups do have a baleful influence on police work in actual real life (a detail left behind by the criminal is leaked to the press making it harder to catch them in future, a jurisdictional fight means the case is handed off to people with no background or interest in it, etc) and I am ok with that stuff when it's framed that way, as an occasional unfortunate reality of the occupation, rather than as some sort of call to action on the part of the audience to take up arms in defense of the thin blue line
there is an interesting contradiction in police work in general where the organization that is, mmm, let's just say maintaining order with disregard to larger issues of social justice, is also one of the only organizations that are actively engaging in that community in the first place and seeking justice on the individual level.
Like like you read any embedded reports from like, a major metropolitan homicide department, and there's almost always that contradiction. And and usually tremendous frustration with the organization as well.
There is a rather unfortunate tendency now in liberal circles where even acknowledging that most cops just want to help people is like, verboten as apologia. either the whole system is rotten to the core, or everything's fine. Which unfortunately drives most policy-based reform advocates out of the liberal mainstream entirely.
Not that most police union reps are any better from the other side. they're the wooorst.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
While orbiting furry communities in late 90s & early 00s, I met a few zoophiles and their pets. I never got particularly close to them, but I went over to their houses and did mundane nerd things, RPGs or video games or whatnot.
I never, ever, ever got an inkling that their animals were abused or unhappy. Entirely the opposite; these zoos treated their pets like prized showdogs. High quality food, regular visits to professional groomers, etc. And the dogs were playful and social and cuddly towards humans.
Hmm I think I hit my progressive barrier reading this.
The progressive barrier is very clear on whats allowed and what isnt: "With Consent Only". That means no kids and no animals, no matter how "happy" they might seem with the arrangement.
the interesting question that arises here is, well, what about artificial insemination
or collecting sperm for medical testing or whatever
is it ok to get sexual with a narwhal if it's purely for utilitarian purposes
While orbiting furry communities in late 90s & early 00s, I met a few zoophiles and their pets. I never got particularly close to them, but I went over to their houses and did mundane nerd things, RPGs or video games or whatnot.
I never, ever, ever got an inkling that their animals were abused or unhappy. Entirely the opposite; these zoos treated their pets like prized showdogs. High quality food, regular visits to professional groomers, etc. And the dogs were playful and social and cuddly towards humans.
Hmm I think I hit my progressive barrier reading this.
The progressive barrier is very clear on whats allowed and what isnt: "With Consent Only". That means no kids and no animals, no matter how "happy" they might seem with the arrangement.
the interesting question that arises here is, well, what about artificial insemination
or collecting sperm for medical testing or whatever
is it ok to get sexual with a narwhal if it's purely for utilitarian purposes
Not to mention animals and animals, which is often violent and painful and clearly non-consensual.
I mean ducks.
Ducks.
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I mean if it's not utilitarian Jesus isn't ok with any sex.
only procreation and pornography. Only making children or making dollars allowed.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
After this point I chilled the custard and strawberries overnight, blended the strawberries, mixed everything together, prepped the ice cream maker, and forgot to take pictures of any of this, then ran the machine 35 minutes
X-COM 2: The aliens are retaliating. Operation Death God is a go. High suspicion of Chryssalids at the site. Godspeed soldiers.
waiting for an announcement of some kind. According to the G+T xcom thread they are shuffling things around on steam in the way they usually do before they announce a new game
After this point I chilled the custard and strawberries overnight, blended the strawberries, mixed everything together, prepped the ice cream maker, and forgot to take pictures of any of this, then ran the machine 35 minutes
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The progressive barrier is very clear on whats allowed and what isnt: "With Consent Only". That means no kids and no animals, no matter how "happy" they might seem with the arrangement.
I didn't feel like you were.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I think giving the horse human brain is one of the points of contention
patanimalism
pat... pa... p... pussy grool
as we learned from Bulgakov's novel Heart of A Dog, that will cause the horse to quickly transform into a human so you'll only then have a very limited window to fuck before it's not really zoophilia
Bulgakov was a doctor so obviously it is true
(did you know he wrote A Young Doctor's Notebook which had that miniseries with John Hamm and Daniel Radcliffe? I did not realize that was him...)
especially the part where john hamm and daniel radcliffe take a bath together
i mean the whole plot was moving and engaging et cet et cet
but bath tub
Like 80% of all fiction just boils down to revenge and power fantasies, it just takes different shapes depending on who the focus is on. It's a very appealing premise because most of us feel that we're not getting what life owes us, and it's all the fault of some nebulous Other and that the system is always on the side of the Other. Wether reality corresponds to that or not rarely comes up
Too slow.
Cut off one of your legs instead.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
actually on second thought let's just outlaw sex altogether
the show is more of a sampler platter of the entire Coen oeuvre and Billy Bob Thornton's character isn't a criminal mastermind so much as a supernatural force of malignant, contagious, and probably supernatural evil - he's the biker in Raising Arizona, John Goodman in Barton Fink, or Anton Chigurh, and like those, the show is painting in some very blackly comic or outright nihilistic shades, which is not for everyone but which I certainly wouldn't call hollow
the main character of the show is a woman. if you only watched four episodes, you wouldn't know this as it copies the format of the Fargo movie - where Marge doesn't show up until like a half hour in - and like that movie, the world of the show expands as it goes on and we meet a town's worth of characters. which isn't to say that there shouldn't have been more women. there definitely should have.
but i don't think this writer was interested in taking a serious look at the show; i think they're playing some dumb zero-sum highlander "there can be only one" game where to elevate one thing they have to be shitty about something else. it's the sort of lazy internet garbage i have absolutely no interest in and which purportedly intelligent people ought to refrain from
Marge is one of my favorite characters in all of cinema.
there is an interesting contradiction in police work in general where the organization that is, mmm, let's just say maintaining order with disregard to larger issues of social justice, is also one of the only organizations that are actively engaging in that community in the first place and seeking justice on the individual level.
Like like you read any embedded reports from like, a major metropolitan homicide department, and there's almost always that contradiction. And and usually tremendous frustration with the organization as well.
There is a rather unfortunate tendency now in liberal circles where even acknowledging that most cops just want to help people is like, verboten as apologia. either the whole system is rotten to the core, or everything's fine. Which unfortunately drives most policy-based reform advocates out of the liberal mainstream entirely.
Not that most police union reps are any better from the other side. they're the wooorst.
Wait, was sex legal all this time?
Fuuuck I need to finish Pillars 1 and pick that up. NWN is so good.
Oh no, my fetishes!
or collecting sperm for medical testing or whatever
is it ok to get sexual with a narwhal if it's purely for utilitarian purposes
Not to mention animals and animals, which is often violent and painful and clearly non-consensual.
I mean ducks.
Ducks.
Tell myself that I love them.
You are indeed on this mission, carrying a big ole' grenadier assault cannon.
only procreation and pornography. Only making children or making dollars allowed.
errybody gon get cut
that whole movie was pretty gd brutal
he was pretty involved in the people vs OJ and that was extremely good
I used a similar custard base as to before, though next time I almost want to go a little richer, maybe a couple extra egg yolks
1/2 cup sugar (this time half brown, half white)
4 egg yolks
1 1/2 cups each whole milk and heavy cream (35% / whipping)
I used a pound of strawberries with a tablespoon of lemon juice and 1/4 cup sugar, all mixed together and left to chill overnight
Macerating strawberries in a little sugar and lemon juice...
Stirring custard over medium-low heat (video)
Straining custard for solids
After this point I chilled the custard and strawberries overnight, blended the strawberries, mixed everything together, prepped the ice cream maker, and forgot to take pictures of any of this, then ran the machine 35 minutes
Lifting the dasher out (video)
And here's the finished product!
waiting for an announcement of some kind. According to the G+T xcom thread they are shuffling things around on steam in the way they usually do before they announce a new game
Advertisement for a preserved Famine-Era Village: "Visit Doagh Famine Village, Donegal's Lapland"
And sure enough there are pictures of elves and Santa
Um
Have you tried it with balsamic vinager?
A local place makes balsamic strawberry ice cream and it is wonderfully tangy.