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The [steam] Autumn Sale has come, now until 11/27!!!

MudzgutMudzgut OhioRegistered User regular
edited November 2018 in Games and Technology
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Welcome to the Steam thread!
This is a pretty neat community of people who like to talk about video games, sales, digital distribution, hat economies, classiness and classholery. We enjoy long walks on the beach, digital hoarding, gifting, the suffering of longtime members, and raising money for charity.


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This is a big, busy thread. There are some guidelines to keep things nice and orderly:
  • Be civil.
  • This thread is for Steam-related discussion. Try to look for other, more appropriate threads before discussing games or other topics in here. Let's not drain other threads of precious content!
  • If you feel someone's acting inappropriately, then quietly report the responsible parties to forum mods.
  • Don't post links to active kickstarters without prior mod permission. Forum-wide rule.
  • Linking your Steam profile in your sig will help community members find you, see what kinds of games you like, invite you to MP games, etc.
  • Do not beg for games.

PA G&T Friday Night Game Fever!
@CorriganX had this crazy idea of getting some folks together to play games and thus Friday Night Game night began. Each week a game is posted as the Friday selection and at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific we all get online and fire up some multiplayer action. If there is a big enough reception, a second round of the game is usually played on Saturday or Sunday at Noon Eastern/6pm Central European so our friends from across the big drink can join us without needing to pull an all nighter. The games are typically streamed by at least one or two folks for viewing as well.
Thanks to @HiT BiT for this awesome banner!
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On the nature of gifting.
Sometimes people gift games.
  • Don't feel that you have to gift games to be a part of this community. It's just one of many things that go on. Some people can give lots of games. Some people can give a game or two a year. Some people make amazing images. Some people find hidden indie gems and report about them. Some people relay amazing gaming moments. Some people report sales. Some people are hysterical. Etc. There are many ways to participate in this community. Gifting is just one of them and is not required.
  • If you run a contest, have entries PMed to you. The thread gets too cluttered otherwise. You can, however, post the winning entries.
  • If you receive a gift, then take a moment to thank the gifter. Use the notification system so they can see your thank you post! ( @NAME. Use quotes around names with spaces.) See below for an example.
  • If you win a Steamgifts giveaway, in addition to thanking the gifter, be sure to mark the gift as received on Steamgifts. You tie up a gift 'slot' for the gifter until you do.
  • In addition to contests, wishlist gifting, ninja gifting, revenge gifting, pile-on gifting and Steamgifts.com giveaways, we have the new [ codes ][ /codes ] tags which can fire off one or more Steam codes (or activation links). More info about [ codes ] below.
  • Steam direct gifting still works, but since we can't use our inventory the same, Steamgifts doesn't work as well anymore, thus you may find this Paypal Steam Wallet link handy should you want to throw Steam Wallet Codes instead.
A Steam thread participant preparing for gifting...
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Rare footage of a gift fight in action...
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Steam sales are legendary. From small to honking massive:
Daily Deals: One game a day goes on sale at 10am PT for 24 hours.
Midweek Madness: Starts 10am PT Tuesday and ends Thursday afternoon.
Weekend Sale: Starts midday Thursday and ends with the sale rollover Monday. Sometimes accompanies free play weekends for MP titles.
Publisher Sale: Many of the publishers games will get a modest discount with a single title or franchise getting a featured day with a deeper discount. Follow the big sale guidelines.
Seasonal Sales: Mardi Gras time here in the thread. Huge swaths of games go on discount, with daily specials, flash sales, community vote sales, and whatever else the evil geniuses at Valve cook up to separate us from our money. There are often metagames such as sale achievements or collectibles or other madness that rewards buying, playing and gifting games and participating in Steam's community. The summer sale usually starts in the last week of June and runs for two weeks, and the Winter sale usually runs for two weeks across Christmas and New Year's.
Other retailers like Amazon and Green Man Gaming get into the act now too, so there are often great values to be had during sales for Steam-activatable games from other sites.
Seasonal Sales Birthdays are basically a big deal around this thread.

Important Note: If you are waiting for a particular game, be sure to mind the countdown timer on the game's store page. Starting Winter 2013, the last day of the sale was just a recap of top sellers. Most games went back to full price.

Steam's refund policy, Abuse section:
Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.

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PA Steam Groups
We have two core Steam groups: Both of these groups have chat, and both are used sometimes to try to limit giveaways to community members.
Penny Arcade is a general Steam group for folks from the PA forums.
PA G&T Adventure Team is a group that was originally created to get multi/coop going for smaller or older titles. Because it is actively moderated, a lot of folks use it as a giveaway group (to avoid problems we've had in the past with non-forumers scooping up gifts intended for the community.) Membership is locked during major sales.

How do I join the Steam groups?
If you've just arrived, hang out here in the thread for a while and talk games with us before you ask for membership. When you do ask, include a link to your Steam profile. Membership to the two Steam groups is for reasonably active community members. If you have been on the PA forums for a while and have participated, post a link to your Steam profile here in the thread and a Steam group mod will take care of you.
If you've been on the forums for three days during a major sale and your only posts have been to casually express your strong desire for certain games, your request is unlikely to find a positive reception. Ditto if your very first post on the forum is to ask for group membership. Sadly this does happen sometimes.
The best parts of this community are available to you now just by showing up. Read some posts, make some posts, ask to be invited as a guest to chat, buy some games, play some games, etc. Group membership is modest icing on delicious cake.

Warning: This guy's going to make you buy games. All the games.
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Where are you guys getting those nifty Steam Signatures?
Check out Alabaster Slim for his lovely signature generator.

Has Game X ever been Price Y? How can I keep track of all the sales and discounts?
http://isthereanydeal.com/ is your friend. You can sync your Steam wishlist to it if you like and get notifications when prices drop. Double check that you are getting a Steam key from a 3rd party site before buying.

How do the new [codes ][ /codes] tags even work?
Put a series of Steam activation codes (or activation links, or movie quotes, or winning lottery numbers...) inside the tags, each on its own line like this (without the spaces inside the brackets, of course):
[codes ]code 1
code 2
code 3
...
code n[/codes]
That will create a little box with a clickable link and a number. Each forumer who clicks the link will get a popup and a PM with the next line. Each line can only be sent out once and each forumer can only click once. It was originally designed to allow developers to hand out lots of codes for a game without some goose grabbing the lot.
Just one code thingy per post!
Note: [ code ][ /code ] is a different tag. Be sure to get that "s" up in there!

Steam Game Categories
You can make a copy of of the file below to backup your category tags!
\Steam\userdata\*USERIDHERE*\7\remote \shareconfig.vdf

Trading cards? Badges? Steam profile levels? Boosters? FOILS?! What the hell?
Jrraghen put together this helpful guide: The House of Cards!
Many games now have trading cards. You can earn some of these cards by playing/idling the game. Some of them you'll need to get by trading or buying them from the Steam community market. Completing a set lets you craft a badge, which gives you an emoticon, a profile wallpaper, a coupon (usually) and profile experience. Leveling up your profile increase your friend cap, earns you customization options for your Steam profile and, allegedly, increases your chances of getting a booster. Boosters are packs of three cards that show up in your inventory sometimes. You can open them or sell them on the market. Sometimes cards are foil. Each game has a regular badge with five levels and a single-level foil badge. Oh, and you must be a certain level to get your card drops.

But that's pure, diabolical evil!
Yes, that's right.

Can we trade cards in the thread?
You can but it's inefficient. Use the Steam feature that shows you which of your friends has the cards you need. Join the Steam group we created for trading cards: PA Card Sharks
Also check this handy tip from HiT BiT:
A little Steam trading trick some of you may not be aware of:
  • Go to your Steam Inventory
  • Click on the "Trade Offers" button
  • Then click on the "Who can send me Trade Offers?" link
  • Below you will find a "Trade URL"
You can share this URL with other Steam users to allow them to directly send you a trade offer even if they aren't on your friends list.
You can share this URL anywhere, including your forum sig.
If you have shared or posted your URL and would like to stop receiving trade offers from it use the "Create New URL" button. A new Trade URL will be created turning the previous one inoperative.

Is Steam down?!
Is it Tuesday? It's probably scheduled maintenance.

It's not Tuesday. Is Steam down?!
http://issteamdown.com/

What are you people talking about? Why hats and what is an "Isy?"
Check out the handy Steam Thread Primer, written by @Smokestacks!
Steam Thread Primer:
Gaben/The Newell - Gabe Newell, Director of Valve Software. Called "Gaben" because in the commentary for older Source Engine games he would tell players to email him at "Gabe N. at valvesoftware.com" with user feedback.
Serve the Newell - To buy games on Steam, to give Gaben your money. From this comic edit.
Bad Rats - An incredibly awful 'physics' based puzzle game, available on Steam, notorious for being as awkward as it is broken. Will haunt your dreams. Popular gift to give to people.
Class - An attribute demonstrated by people who will generously purchase games and then give them to internet strangers.
Class War - When two or more forumers buy each other games back and forth until one of them gives up. I know this sounds really crazy, but it happens.
Bundle - Originally the Humble Indie Bundle, which was a "pay what you want" system for a group of games, now usually means any website selling a group of games (usually able to be registered on Steam) for a low price.
Giveaway/A Giveaway - Usually refers to a giveaway on Steamgifts.com, a website where you list a game you want to give away, people enter, and then a winner is randomly decided among all entrants after a set time period.
Hats/The Hatconomy - The purchase and sale of in-game hats or sometimes other items in TF2. Some hats are very valuable, which is funny because they are just hats for videogame characters. People who have valuable hats or other items in their inventories sometimes get messages from random people on Steam begging for those items.
Backlog - The list of games you have purchased, but have not gotten around to playing yet. Tends to grow over time, often to immense proportions. If you do not have a backlog yet, between the thread and the sales you will get one.
Spies/Russian Spies - People who lurk the thread or try to get into the various PA Steam groups not to participate in the community, but to try and get free games.
Steamsigs - Custom forum signatures that display a link to your Steam profile, as well as an image of a game you are currently playing, have played the most in the last two weeks, or have played the most over all time (if you haven't played any games on Steam in the last two weeks). Available here courtesy of forumer Suds. Having a Steam sig (or some sort of clickable link to your Steam profile in your signature) makes it considerably easier for people to add you to their friends list.
Child's Play - A charity started by the writer and artist behind PA that raises money for videogames/toys that go to children's hospitals, originally started in '03, has grown every year. Helps sick kids feel better about their time in the hospital while simultaneously refuting the idea that gamers are antisocial jerks.
Isy - Big Classy, a forumer. Formerly known as "Big Isy", he was granted the new name after donating a hefty amount of money to Child's Play during a fundraiser. Sometimes referred to as Isy, which might cause confusion to people who haven't been around very long.
Summer Dale - A phone's auto-correction of "Summer Sale", which through some sort of internet voodoo produced an actual entity, a smooth voiced funk loving man who lives in a world where the 80s reign eternal and supreme. Also sometimes used to describe the upcoming Summer Sale itself.
Rainbow and/or Slash - Two forumers by the name of Rainbowdespair and slash000 who are notable for developing the third and fourth installments of the Penny Arcade: On the Rainslick Precipice of Darkness series. Also developed Breath of Death VII and Cthulu Saves the World, two RPGs that, along with the Rainslick games, are available on Steam.

Also, sometimes shit gets real. Like that time we all murdered each other for bloodsport games. And there was a kabob conspiracy and a kind of Cthulhu bunny. @akajaybay took us down that particular rabbit hole.

Why are you people obsessed with Bad Rats and Amnesia?
A moment of ill-advised swagger from anoffday turned into a horrifying LP of Bad Rats which, because reasons, turned into over $6000 raised for Child's Play.
CorriganX raised over $1100 for Child's Play via Amnesia.

Classy Christmas We raised $5,315.84 for Child's Play in December 2016!
Previous Years
***If someone finds the 2015 total before I can dig it up, please PM me, @Mudzgut***
December 2014: $9,248
December 2013: $11,903

Fanda shared this with us:
For our Christmas fundraiser to restore TychoCelchuuu's threadmaking privileges (and help the kids), I donated to Toronto's Hospital for Sick Children. This week I received a nice letter from them! I figured I'd share part of it with y'all, since this applies to all of you at least as much as it does to me.
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What is this Steamgifts site? I wish to create a giveaway! I cannot enter a giveaway!
Steamgifts is a neat site that lets people create giveaways for games on Steam. Points for entering giveaways are accumulated over time, so just wait a bit if you need points. Entry to giveaways can be limited by Steam group membership to prevent mooches from getting games.

How do I make one of those cool Steam Gifts signature giveaway banners?
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What are all these bundles you people keep talking about?
In addition to Steam sales and sales of Steam keys on other sites and gifts, we live in a golden age of bundles! Bundle sites sell batches of games for modest amounts of money, often as low as a few dollars. Many, but not all, contribute to charity and many, but not all, give you Steam keys for the games. Sometimes you'll buy an indie gem that isn't even on Steam, and later when arrives on Steam you will get a key through the bundle site. Be careful if you plan to gift some of the games, as sometimes the bundled games will come in a single Steam key. We have a separate bundles thread.

I have too many games! Which do I play?
Steam Roulette randomly picks a game for you to play.

I have too many games! How do I move them to my new hard drive?
Steam Mover makes transporting your massive library much easier.

But wait! I have ALL OF THE GAMES installed! I need more space on my hard drive! wat i do?
You download Tikione Steam Cleaner and clean it up.
Steam Cleaner also available through GitHub!

Okay that helped. Now I have more room for stuff. Free stuff.
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Someone on a steam forum made a nice list of all free DLC you can add to your steam account if you have the base-game but that thread is currently not available so I figure I post it here. Since it is pretty easy to miss some of these.

The sale prices aren't right! What's going on?! Oh God, the darkness is closing in...
During the seasonal sales, you are one of a million monkeys hammering F5 at 10am PT to see the new sales. The system is always borked for 5-20 minutes. Take a deep breath. The Newell will deliver, and the new dailies will be available for 48 hours.

Why are some games not available in my region?
Publishers determine what countries get what games. Someone in a suit decided that it wasn't worth the money to make the game available to your region, so it isn't available on Steam. This also applies to cases of games having edited/censored versions showing up on Steam in certain countries. The good news is that you can generally get around this by having someone from another region gift or trade you the game.

Steam is downloading slowly. What gives?
You can head to Steam -> Settings -> Downloads + Cloud and change your download region until things improve. Since other regions are typically less populated, you will probably get somewhat better results even if the new server is in another country.

VR - it's that new thing, you know, with the goggles and the doo-dads.
EvmaAlsar did a great write up about various VR game options on Steam. Check it out!

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    *sniff* Ahh new thread smell!

    I've been thinking about playing Abzu. What're ya'lls thoughts on that game? I know it's short, but I've been on an under 5 hour gaming kick lately as I work on the back log.

    Grove on
    Selling PS3 & 360 Madcatz TE Stick
  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Last thread ended on perfect note.

    Unreal gold is stuck in curious processor glitches.

    Everything goes into bullettime if I run full screen.

    Run windowed, framerates jump wildly, although it was satisfying to navigate hallways at superspeed and have every fight in slow motion. Take note developers, this would function well for a newgame+ mode.

  • destroyah87destroyah87 They/Them Preferred: She/Her - Please UseRegistered User regular
    Played Astroneer all yesterday evening. The game is still super pretty and now has been developed enough that it's actually fun and feels like a functional EarlyAccess game.

    I really love the new base building mechanics and the research system. Incentivizes exploration while giving the player the choice to unlock the items they need, instead of the random unlock the research system first used.

    If anyone has been watching this and isn't shy about Early Access games, this is a good one to look at.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    New thread wooo!

    And Grove signed up to be the first victim! Congrats!

    ~~ Pixie on Steam ~~
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Target locked! SHOTS FIRED, SHOTS FIRED!

    You were warned...

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    New thread wooo!

    And Grove signed up to be the first victim! Congrats!

    Do what now? I don't think I signed up for anything...

    Grove on
    Selling PS3 & 360 Madcatz TE Stick
  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Yay, new thread! Death's Gambit tomorrow!! And Walking Dead final season!

  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    New ESO DLC today. Wolfhunter.

    Complete with an armored Scooby-Doo dog.

    ~~ Pixie on Steam ~~
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Rain . . . Centralia, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Grove wrote: »
    New thread wooo!

    And Grove signed up to be the first victim! Congrats!

    Do what now? I don't think I signed up for anything...

    As per the last thread, @Grove . . .
    MNC Dover wrote:
    Tomorrow I’m getting the snip snip done and am feeling generous! As such, I will be gifting the first person to post after the OP in the new Steam thread.

    So indeed, you signed up for something. :wink:

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Grove wrote: »
    New thread wooo!

    And Grove signed up to be the first victim! Congrats!

    Do what now? I don't think I signed up for anything...

    As per the last thread, Grove . . .
    MNC Dover wrote:
    Tomorrow I’m getting the snip snip done and am feeling generous! As such, I will be gifting the first person to post after the OP in the new Steam thread.

    So indeed you signed up for something. :wink:

    Yeah...I just learned that...

    I guess I should always finish reading the last of a dying thread...

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    Thanks @MNC Dover

    I guess I can't be too mad at you. Besides, like C-3P0 says, "You will find a new definition of pain and suffering."

    Good luck with the clipping today :P

    edit:

    Also, time to see if I can beat @Pixelated Pixie record spent in character creation.

    Grove on
    Selling PS3 & 360 Madcatz TE Stick
  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Oh wow, just saw Exapunks in my queue. Anyone here played it? Only saw one friend in my list that wanted it (Drake).

  • KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    Grove wrote: »
    *sniff* Ahh new thread smell!

    I've been thinking about playing Abzu. What're ya'lls thoughts on that game? I know it's short, but I've been on an under 5 hour gaming kick lately as I work on the back log.

    It's sort of an underwater Journey although no sudden coop.

    Pretty good but as you pointed out it's short.

  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Grove wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Grove wrote: »
    New thread wooo!

    And Grove signed up to be the first victim! Congrats!

    Do what now? I don't think I signed up for anything...

    As per the last thread, Grove . . .
    MNC Dover wrote:
    Tomorrow I’m getting the snip snip done and am feeling generous! As such, I will be gifting the first person to post after the OP in the new Steam thread.

    So indeed you signed up for something. :wink:

    Yeah...I just learned that...

    I guess I should always finish reading the last of a dying thread...

    Monster Hunter Gift.

    Thanks "MNC Dover"

    I guess I can't be too mad at you. Besides, like C-3P0 says, "You will find a new definition of pain and suffering."

    Good luck with the clipping today :P

    edit:

    Also, time to see if I can beat "Pixelated Pixie" record spent in character creation.

    Enjoy your new life. Or lack thereof.

    KoopahTroopah on
  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    Yay! I missed the Steam thread. Now back to lurking the thread on new games to add to my wish list.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    Grove wrote: »
    Also, time to see if I can beat @Pixelated Pixie record spent in character creation.

    Are we counting per character or overall?


    ... because I made another character.


    ...... and I still have one more save slot.

    ~~ Pixie on Steam ~~
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
    Grove wrote: »
    *sniff* Ahh new thread smell!

    I've been thinking about playing Abzu. What're ya'lls thoughts on that game? I know it's short, but I've been on an under 5 hour gaming kick lately as I work on the back log.

    It's great, I'd give it a play. Great way to spend a Saturday afternoon or something. It has some trade-offs with Journey. Journey, to me, was all about the silent coop with a mysterious stranger. The exploration/music/art was great, too, but just sharing that experience with a total stranger was what made Journey so special, imo. Obviously, Abzu doesn't have that. But I think Abzu also does a lot more interesting stuff in the actual exploration bit than Journey does. Each of the little areas had their own little aesthetic and you could just zen out exploring them or just sitting and watching everything happen around you. Also, the soundtrack is great.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJIU9nMbYY

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  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    If anyone's interested, Neon Chrome is $5.50 US until tomorrow around lunchtime EDT.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    So I'm still grinding through GTA4, but I've come to the conclusion that with the exception of two things (graphics and aiming/combat) it's a step back from GTA: San Andreas in basically every way.

    The characters are less interesting. The music is less good. The interactivity with the map (food places, clothing choices, etc) is less interesting. I miss the whole eating too much/working out improving stats aspect. I don't like killing pigeons as much as the other collectables, and there's no progression (unlocking weapons at your places). Cell phone is a nice addition, but adding relationship management to a bunch of side characters breaks the "flow" of the game when you're off working on something (and also stop giving me calls when it's literally impossible to get to the person in an hour, so even answering the call will reduce relationship no matter what).

    I dunno. It's been lots of years since I played some of these, so it's also fighting nostalgia glasses, but it really feels a little....sterile compared to the previous one.

    Whenever I get around to GTA5, I hope it's more like the 3 generation ones.

  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Grove wrote: »
    Also, time to see if I can beat @Pixelated Pixie record spent in character creation.

    Are we counting per character or overall?


    ... because I made another character.


    ...... and I still have one more save slot.

    What does your other character look like? :3

  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    Grove wrote: »
    Also, time to see if I can beat @Pixelated Pixie record spent in character creation.

    Are we counting per character or overall?


    ... because I made another character.


    ...... and I still have one more save slot.

    What does your other character look like? :3

    I'll post a pic when I get home. Just for you. :wink:

    ~~ Pixie on Steam ~~
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    Grove wrote: »
    Also, time to see if I can beat @Pixelated Pixie record spent in character creation.

    Are we counting per character or overall?


    ... because I made another character.


    ...... and I still have one more save slot.

    What does your other character look like? :3

    I'll post a pic when I get home. Just for you. :wink:

    And 500 of Koopah's friends?

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    Steam: betsuni7
  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    So I'm still grinding through GTA4, but I've come to the conclusion that with the exception of two things (graphics and aiming/combat) it's a step back from GTA: San Andreas in basically every way.

    The characters are less interesting. The music is less good. The interactivity with the map (food places, clothing choices, etc) is less interesting. I miss the whole eating too much/working out improving stats aspect. I don't like killing pigeons as much as the other collectables, and there's no progression (unlocking weapons at your places). Cell phone is a nice addition, but adding relationship management to a bunch of side characters breaks the "flow" of the game when you're off working on something (and also stop giving me calls when it's literally impossible to get to the person in an hour, so even answering the call will reduce relationship no matter what).

    I dunno. It's been lots of years since I played some of these, so it's also fighting nostalgia glasses, but it really feels a little....sterile compared to the previous one.

    Whenever I get around to GTA5, I hope it's more like the 3 generation ones.

    Yep.

    Have a tip:
    If a friend calls to meet, but you're busy or don't want to do it then, accept and then call them back to cancel with no hit to the relationship.

    GTA4 is also, in my opinion, a major step back fro SA. SA had so much more to do just to fuck around and the world was so varied that you would definitely feel you were in different places when you were in different places.

    4 struggles in the last third as Alderney is not as well developed as the rest of the city. And, yes, the middle segment of the narrative starts to drag when dealing with PlayboyX and Francis. Algonquin is well designed and I generally find myself wandering around just taking in the sights, but the lack of things to do, especially after clearing out Randos, brings it down a bit.

    TLAD doesn't really fix any of those issues, but the story is far, far bettet and I wished it was longer.

    TBoGT is what you're wanting. It shifts back to a more colourful experience and different side pieces activities to do. And personally, I really enjoyed just walking to the subway to get to missions. That's when the city felt more alive. (Also, TBoGT has a habit of permanently taking your car away on all missions.)

    The base game is still good to play. Some game mechanics are far better. Both DLC fixes up the relationship issues so that's another thing.

    Briefly on 5, it is much closer to the 3D era of games in tone while still trying to have it's drama. But some think it still doesn't work well. Lots to do within the game, but your level of enjoyment may be different than mine. Esoecially depending on how you relate to the Third Protagonist.

    My biggest complaint about 5 is that San Fierro and Las Venturas aren't included. But it is still better, overall, than 4.

  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Betsuni wrote: »
    Grove wrote: »
    Also, time to see if I can beat @Pixelated Pixie record spent in character creation.

    Are we counting per character or overall?


    ... because I made another character.


    ...... and I still have one more save slot.

    What does your other character look like? :3

    I'll post a pic when I get home. Just for you. :wink:

    And 500 of Koopah's friends?

    My Steam Friends list is 90% you guys so, yeah.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Okay, search this shed and meet up with ally in next room

    Too loud, but I can handle it

    Oh, a swat zombie

    Oh shit a feral!

    OH SHIT!

    OH SHIT SHIT OH!

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    #stateofdecay

  • GMaster7GMaster7 Goggles Paesano Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Hello, newborn baby Steam thread! May your life be long and healthy and full of sales.

    I need to dive into Orwell, which has been sitting on my hard drive since the summer sale. Getting the itch to pick up Into the Breach, too, but... first, I need to contend with my backlog.

    ...My Switch and PS4 backlogs, I mean. My Steam backlog is, of course, merely a collection.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    @KoopahTroopah

    Character shot, just for you. (Edit: And here's a pre-game shot, making a cute face.)

    I like her, but I like my other character more. Still, I'll keep her around. And I have one more slot to fill! :D

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    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    Speaking of backlogs I'm having a small amount of progress on mine, but it's mostly down to being in the mood for a bunch of metroidvanias that I coincidentally own rather than a new initiative.

    My brain finally clicked on the fun part of STEAMWORLD DIG and I promptly devoured that in two sittings. Thanks to @iolo I have the sequel already so I've jumped straight into it. I might just make my life easier and buy all future games from Image & Form Games immediately sight-unseen because it's turning out that they make precisely what I enjoy at the right time.

    DEAD CELLS and SLAY THE SPIRE are both getting runs whenever I can spare the time because they're both excellent and have so much meat on the bone I'm concerned I've swallowed it and am eating through to the other side. That wouldn't be good for my digestive system.

    On the wordy-wordy, talky-talky front I've got THE RED STRING CLUB and UNAVOWED but it's difficult to talk about them just yet. Know that they're worth at least looking into and I'll report back later with some thoughts. OK some tidbits - the walking animations in both are a little strange but I really enjoy TRSC walking down stairs and slinging back drinks animations. Both have been shocking to the point that I've exclaimed "FUCK!" absentmindedly. One asks some extraordinarily frank questions about humanity and demands answers that make me consider who I am and why I think that way. As in me, TeeMan, not the protagonist.

    Anyway! Good videogames all round.

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    KoopahTroopah

    Character shot, just for you. (Edit: And here's a pre-game shot, making a cute face.)

    I like her, but I like my other character more. Still, I'll keep her around. And I have one more slot to fill! :D

    She's cute too! I like your first character more though :redface:

  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    KoopahTroopah

    Character shot, just for you. (Edit: And here's a pre-game shot, making a cute face.)

    I like her, but I like my other character more. Still, I'll keep her around. And I have one more slot to fill! :D

    These are nice and all but you're forgetting something important: Show us your kitties.

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  • KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    Yes, I must have a Butter and Toast update.

    Picking up from the last thread. Hunt Showdown is a game I'd love to just explore since it oozes environmental detail, alas it's not that kind of game.

  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    KoopahTroopah

    Character shot, just for you. (Edit: And here's a pre-game shot, making a cute face.)

    I like her, but I like my other character more. Still, I'll keep her around. And I have one more slot to fill! :D

    These are nice and all but you're forgetting something important: Show us your kitties.

    Murder-kitty

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    KoopahTroopah

    Character shot, just for you. (Edit: And here's a pre-game shot, making a cute face.)

    I like her, but I like my other character more. Still, I'll keep her around. And I have one more slot to fill! :D

    These are nice and all but you're forgetting something important: Show us your kitties.

    Murder-kitty

    Quite short lady or very large kitty?

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    @Stabbity Style done der nuked me for asking too many questions.

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    Thanks!

  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Played a bit of Monster Hunter and I absolutely love it. It looks SO good on PC.

    Thanks again Dover. Been a rough couple of weeks for me and this was a very pleasant surprise, mate.

    Selling PS3 & 360 Madcatz TE Stick
  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
    @Stabbity Style done der nuked me for asking too many questions.

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    Thanks!

    Only because apparently they're making an animated series based on the world from Rakuen!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no8E4erJrgI

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  • NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    I didn't have much time to dive into monster hunter today other than to pick up the login voucher.

    switching tracks to those of you all playing EXEPUNKS...

    Question. Do the puzzles seem easier to you all? I don't know if its just from wracking my brains playing shenzhen i/o a bunch, but the coding in exepunks seems way easier to figure out and get it to do what I want it to do as well as I'm keeping up with the bulk of humanity in the histograms. Sometimes I've even smashed a particular metric. (Like the neat little trick of dumping all my code into one exa and then replicating that exa to the command line of the second exa I would use, thus, dumping my activity metric way way way down.)

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    A coworker of mine is leaving next week to go do some work related to wildfires four hours away. Said coworker has a family member living at home who had a recent medical issue that isn't horrible, but she's afraid to leave the family member alone for the week. As a result I'll be staying at my coworker's house next week so that there will be someone there if anything goes awry, which means that I'll be limited to what will run on my venerable old Thinkpad for gaming for a little while. I beseech thee, Steam Thread, lend me your recommendations for games that will run decently on the following:

    Core 2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26Ghz
    8GB RAM
    256MB HD3470

    I'll have both kbam and an Xbone controller, and I like most genres (racing, shootman, RPGs, platformers, you name it) except VNs. Any recommendations would be highly appreciated, because why should I go through my existing library and play games I already own when I could just buy new games instead?

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