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[DOTA 2] The International 2019

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  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    Alliance can't feel good about that one.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Sceptre wrote: »
    Alliance can't feel good about that one.

    It's a tough loss, but that draft had to win before 30 min, and they got damn close, but the enemy cores came online and they couldn't push objectives anymore. I also think Broodmother is going to quickly become a must ban in the tournament, she is super strong.

    gigawatt666
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Yeah, considering the fact secret is probably the strongest team there and they were probably one catch from winning, they should walk with head held high from that one. They lost to a cheese strat, and only barely with a draft I'll equipped to deal with it.

  • BlazeFireBlazeFire Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Sceptre wrote: »
    Alliance can't feel good about that one.

    It's a tough loss, but that draft had to win before 30 min, and they got damn close, but the enemy cores came online and they couldn't push objectives anymore. I also think Broodmother is going to quickly become a must ban in the tournament, she is super strong.

    Any recommendations on matches to watch good brood play? I always struggled with her.

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    So I got the email yesterday saying "The International starts today!" but I saw that the schedule had everything listed as being on the 15h, which is today.

    ... In America.

    I fucking forgot that they're elsewhere this year, I missed the first day of group stage. :(

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited August 15
    Henroid wrote: »
    So I got the email yesterday saying "The International starts today!" but I saw that the schedule had everything listed as being on the 15h, which is today.

    ... In America.

    I fucking forgot that they're elsewhere this year, I missed the first day of group stage. :(

    It didn't help that they were scheduled to start at 9EST, and then didn't start proper until about an hour later.

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  • gigawatt666gigawatt666 Registered User regular
    Ogre-Magi puttin' in work.....

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  • Undead MonkeyUndead Monkey Anchorage, AKRegistered User regular
    It may be petty, and I don't know for sure what drama caused Fly to bail on OG, but I'm glad EG lost both of their games yesterday to Fnatic.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    What does OG have to do with EG and Fnatic?

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  • BlazeFireBlazeFire Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    What does OG have to do with EG and Fnatic?

    Fly plays for EG.

  • Undead MonkeyUndead Monkey Anchorage, AKRegistered User regular
    And Fly was a long, long time teammate of n0tail from back in the days of HoN and maybe even vanilla DotA. Before TI 2018, Fly bailed on the team with little to no notice (according to websites and Internet hullabaloo) which prompted them to recruit Topson at the last minute who, at the time, was just a streamer and not a pro.

    Again, I don't know what happened internally to cause the strife between n0tail and Fly, but speculation was that Fly didn't think OG could win and therefore bailed for a better team, leaving his longtime close friend in the lurch. I was just so happy to see OG win last year despite the adversity of the situation, I can't help but say "fuck Fly" and therefore EG by proxy.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    I made nachos for dinner and am in time for the TI goodness to start.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Vg is currently running an Earthshaker + Morphling combo against VP and it is fucking dirty.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    And Fly was a long, long time teammate of n0tail from back in the days of HoN and maybe even vanilla DotA. Before TI 2018, Fly bailed on the team with little to no notice (according to websites and Internet hullabaloo) which prompted them to recruit Topson at the last minute who, at the time, was just a streamer and not a pro.

    Again, I don't know what happened internally to cause the strife between n0tail and Fly, but speculation was that Fly didn't think OG could win and therefore bailed for a better team, leaving his longtime close friend in the lurch. I was just so happy to see OG win last year despite the adversity of the situation, I can't help but say "fuck Fly" and therefore EG by proxy.

    Yep, Fly and S4 left OG maybe 2 months before TI? Then they were replaced by Topson (who had never competed in a LAN) and their coach Ceb (7ckingMad). Then had the cinderella run at TI.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    NIP just racked up a 60k+ gold lead against Fanatic and still had issues ending the game.

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    There was another match with a comeback after a 20k gold deficit. It really goes to show that no match is over until the Valkyrie sings.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Against the Odds explains the OG/Fly/Notail thing, and also follows OG's path to the TI8 grand finals.

    I legit enjoyed that documentary.

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    ALERT: OG is playing carry Io against NiP right now

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  • Who-PsydWho-Psyd Registered User regular
    411Randle wrote: »
    ALERT: OG is playing carry Io against NiP right now

    They picked carry Io for both games vs NiP.

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    And Fly was a long, long time teammate of n0tail from back in the days of HoN and maybe even vanilla DotA. Before TI 2018, Fly bailed on the team with little to no notice (according to websites and Internet hullabaloo) which prompted them to recruit Topson at the last minute who, at the time, was just a streamer and not a pro.

    Again, I don't know what happened internally to cause the strife between n0tail and Fly, but speculation was that Fly didn't think OG could win and therefore bailed for a better team, leaving his longtime close friend in the lurch. I was just so happy to see OG win last year despite the adversity of the situation, I can't help but say "fuck Fly" and therefore EG by proxy.

    It also gave us The Handshake, which still gives me chills.

    I mean, I'd take Nick Offerman's spikey cat dick willingly
  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Not gonna lie, I copied most of my battle pass predictions off other sources, but regardless of people saying Secret will win this TI, I put OG.

    From what I'm reading elsewhere, it sounds like I need to watch a bunch of those matches after work.

    One aspect that keeps making me laugh is that apparently OG spamming chatwheel stuff and tipping is causing other teams to mute them, which led to them using sprays (which can't be ignored, it seems). The next level 'bm' play here is that they keep using their opponents icon for said chat lines, and apparently Ceb keeps setting their opponents as his 'favourite team', which shows up in the base and whenever he TPs.

    It's a tiny detail that when pointed out, I just love.

    With 15 fucking million dollars on the line, I can appreciate having some bits of psychological warfare thrown in the mix. Even if it's just amusing themselves to keep morale high.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Watching OG (and to some extent alliance) play is such a joy. There's just such nutty comps and execution with an absolute joy of execution involved.
    This year is so loose and client, I love it.

  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    I can only imagine what the draft of Alliance vs. OG will be like if they both decide to go full galaxy brain.

    Cole's Law: "Thinly sliced cabbage."
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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    l_g wrote: »
    I can only imagine what the draft of Alliance vs. OG will be like if they both decide to go full galaxy brain.

    First pick techies

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Apparently Secret has been spamming them in matches leading up to TI, and supposedly teams were fast banning it.

    Which is heartening.

    Both pros and sub-1k scrubs such as myself want nothing to do with that bullshit.

    People can say 'oh you just have to play around it' all they like, TI bans speak for themselves.

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    Forar wrote: »
    Apparently Secret has been spamming them in matches leading up to TI, and supposedly teams were fast banning it.

    Which is heartening.

    Both pros and sub-1k scrubs such as myself want nothing to do with that bullshit.

    People can say 'oh you just have to play around it' all they like, TI bans speak for themselves.

    I'm a fan of it as a spectator because of how enormous the strategic implications of it are. You can really see movement around the map change on a large scale due to it, as well as how they decide where to fight. I agree that as a player it can be a bit of a slog, but when I'm not the one dealing with the stress of it, it's great! Plus I really enjoy seeing how entire teams with pro-level mindgames come up with guesses as to where the mines are, and the techies player trying to be sneaky given how clever their foes are. In pub games at the level I've played at, people just run into mines and die, so there's no real need to be sneaky nevermind opportunity to be sneaky.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited 1:07AM
    Forar wrote: »
    Apparently Secret has been spamming them in matches leading up to TI, and supposedly teams were fast banning it.

    Which is heartening.

    Both pros and sub-1k scrubs such as myself want nothing to do with that bullshit.

    People can say 'oh you just have to play around it' all they like, TI bans speak for themselves.

    The character never should have been added to the game. Techies either snowballs, or forces shitty play where the game takes 8 times longer to finish than it needs to. It's the only character in Dota that punishes both teams for being picked. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll get off my soapbox and shoo these kids off my lawn.

    Bummer to see NIP has been struggling. I've always had a soft spot for PPD teams.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    edited 2:31AM
    Ever see a game where a team picked up two Rapiers? Because it just happened in this Alliance vs Newbee game.

    Edit - That was a wild ending goddamn.

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Finally got around to watching the Red Bull documentary on OG. Damn good. I love N0tail so much. Also, fuck Fly forever.

    I mean, I'd take Nick Offerman's spikey cat dick willingly
  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    Alliance need to work on their lategame. And midgame.

    Two losses with megacreeps now, that's just silly.

    Henroid
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    Alliance need to work on their lategame. And midgame.

    Two losses with megacreeps now, that's just silly.
    I couldn't believe how much the match was in their favor and they managed to blow it. The late game loss came down to inability to team fight as well and the midgame was... I dunno, maybe fear of pushing too hard?

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited 2:54AM
    Henroid wrote: »
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    Alliance need to work on their lategame. And midgame.

    Two losses with megacreeps now, that's just silly.
    I couldn't believe how much the match was in their favor and they managed to blow it. The late game loss came down to inability to team fight as well and the midgame was... I dunno, maybe fear of pushing too hard?

    This alliance squad has always had incredible difficulties finishing games. They often blow 30k+ leads due to just dragging games out, but losing when you have megas not once, but twice is crazy. If they stay together after TI they have to change something up.

    edit: The main part of this game loss came down to Gyro farming megas for 15 minutes to actually come online, and alliance could not deal with 2 strong cores (one of which was gyro with rapier).

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    edited 3:27AM
    Team Secret is getting their asses kicked right now, as they should, because this draft looks like a PUG team.

    Edit - And of course as soon as I say that they win their first team encounter.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    edited 4:07AM
    Holy shit when did Sniper become a pro-viable character? Nisha just had a 12k damage fight with him and a 7k gold boost.

    Edit - During the EG vs INF round Sumail hit 1k kills in TI, first player to do so. Congrats!

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    The level of pro Dota has just gotten so absurd. These teams play at such an incredible pace now. Ice Frog has definitely created a fun to watch meta here.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Apparently I was wrong, Maybe beat Sumail to the 1k record. Still, congrats to them both.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    edited 5:07AM
    Either way, 1000 kills in TI play is incredible

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    I keep forgetting the name of the guy Tobiwan usually does commentary with but they had their game client crash just now, and really without missing a beat he just said "okay it's Radio DotA now" and picked up in describing what was happening. Those folks are pros.

    As an aside I usually have twitch chat turned off for huge streams like this but I took a peek at it when Tobi started popping off about a team fight and it was full of PogChamps. Accurate.

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