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Ragnarok Online: What's it like?

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    Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I can help you with class choices. I know every class and their respective builds like the back of my hand.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    My gf wanted the black cat ears, which is kind of like wanting hawaii.

    Like 9 million? I tried for hours just to get the ones that you need to turn into the black cat ears.

    That's another thing I liked about WoW over RO.
    RO?
    Ah I see. I don't know the classes yet, still have to research my characters and the choices. But I will keep that in mind.
    As much as I hate you, I feel I must warn you.
    Do not make an Acolyte/Priest unless you want people to assume you are THEIR healing bitch. Sure, Priests can Solo fairly well(look up "ME/Magnus Priest" and you'll pretty much rape the shit out of any Undead.)
    But seriously.
    No one respects Priests. They pretend to, but no one does.
    Which is funny, because Priests are, on average, the least obnoxious people in-game.
    Name a game which doesn't have a single freaking negative. Good God Man! Everything has bad points, deal with it.
    Here's the difference.
    EarthBound: Negative - Graphics are weak, even for it's time.
    Pros - Everything else.

    Ragnarok: Pros - Graphics are cute and towns are beautiful.
    Negative - Everything else.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    I find it funny that it "sealed the deal" despite all the negatives of the game.

    Play on, enjoy, but it's still confounding.

    Name a game which doesn't have a single freaking negative. Good God Man! Everything has bad points, deal with it.

    Because that's exactly what I implied. Whatever.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I can help you with class choices. I know every class and their respective builds like the back of my hand.

    I'm the same way. But I really wish I didn't.


    General rule of thumb that the RO Forumers won't tell you? Agility is worthless if your class is not split from the Thief, the Archer, or ONE Swordsman build. And even in those cases, these people still insist that too much is better than "enough".

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    Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    RO is like Junior High with cutesy graphics.

    If you make ANY FRIENDS expect monumental levels of drama that will make you want to jack any preteen you see in the face.

    It was my first MMO, and I would love to just forget everything about it. It is a giant festering pool of disease.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    This is truth.

    I am not going to play RO2 simply because they didn't just take RO and supe it up. The art style was literally the best part of the game.

    I could grind for hours and get 4% and not care because dammit, my Sin was cute as fuck and had an Eyepatch and was SMOKING.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    On second thought, you'll fit right in Katchem_Ash. Have a ball.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sara Lynn wrote: »
    RO is like Junior High with cutesy graphics.

    If you make ANY FRIENDS expect monumental levels of drama that will make you want to jack any preteen you see in the face.

    It was my first MMO, and I would love to just forget everything about it. It is a giant festering pool of disease.

    And everyone is just interested in looking cuter.
    "This helm gives my Knight the highest defense of any headgear, it's slotted for more strength, and it's upgraded to +10!
    But these kitty ears are adorable..."
    D: I'm not one to Min/Max.
    But when you sacrifice needed stats so you look "omg liek a kitty grrl ^__^" then I hate you.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    This is truth.

    I am not going to play RO2 simply because they didn't just take RO and supe it up. The art style was literally the best part of the game.

    I could grind for hours and get 4% and not care because dammit, my Sin was cute as fuck and had an Eyepatch and was SMOKING.

    What the fuck was up with Priestesses?
    The Holiest class in the damn game and they look like something out of a Nun-fetish topic on 4chan.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    On second thought, you'll fit right in Katchem_Ash. Have a ball.

    Seriously RO will beat the weebo right out of you, I am not even kidding.

    Sure, it LURES you in with the Anime cutesy.

    And then you find people even more horrible then you can possibly imagine.

    And then you uninstall the game and burn the harddrive it was on.

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    Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    On second thought, you'll fit right in Katchem_Ash. Have a ball.

    Seriously RO will beat the weebo right out of you, I am not even kidding.

    Sure, it LURES you in with the Anime cutesy.

    And then you find people even more horrible then yourself.

    And then you uninstall the game and burn the harddrive it was on.

    True story.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    What's weebo?

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    On second thought, you'll fit right in Katchem_Ash. Have a ball.

    Seriously RO will beat the weebo right out of you, I am not even kidding.

    Sure, it LURES you in with the Anime cutesy.

    And then you find people even more horrible then yourself.

    And then you uninstall the game and burn the harddrive it was on.

    I went in being a decent fan of Naruto.
    About a week later, I pretty much gained a new found loathing for everyone on that show except Kakashi. And he's only exempt for being a badass.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    This is truth.

    I am not going to play RO2 simply because they didn't just take RO and supe it up. The art style was literally the best part of the game.

    I could grind for hours and get 4% and not care because dammit, my Sin was cute as fuck and had an Eyepatch and was SMOKING.

    What the fuck was up with Priestesses?
    The Holiest class in the damn game and they look like something out of a Nun-fetish topic on 4chan.


    Have you seen the official art?

    Every single female character represents a different fetish.

    Sins are domination

    Preists are Nun.

    Blacksmiths are Cowgirl

    Hunters are the Tomboy/Heel.

    Knights are the Armor fetish

    So are Saders

    And Rogues, oh Rogues, thats your two dollar hooker fetish

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    Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I will admit my hunter was damn adorable and fun to play.

    But ugh.

    Just.. ugh.

    When will it die.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What's weebo?

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    But in all seriousness, it's someone who tries so hard to be Japanese that they sometimes even use japanese words in place of the english counterparts.
    I.e "Oooh look at the kawaii neko! ^__^" would be "Oooh look at the cute cat!"
    Or if you were around the Pokemon fandom when gold and silver came out, people INSISTED for a good 6 months on calling Pokemon by their japanese names.
    Umbreon(Umbra + Evolution. Eon was the lines suffix) became "Burakki"..."Blacky".
    Weeaboos ignore logic that "Blacky" isn't as cool as "Shadow Evolution"

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh. I'd always heard the called Japanophiles, and have consistently classified them as such. Fun new word, it shall fit right in with the rest of my vocabulary.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    This is truth.

    I am not going to play RO2 simply because they didn't just take RO and supe it up. The art style was literally the best part of the game.

    I could grind for hours and get 4% and not care because dammit, my Sin was cute as fuck and had an Eyepatch and was SMOKING.

    What the fuck was up with Priestesses?
    The Holiest class in the damn game and they look like something out of a Nun-fetish topic on 4chan.


    Have you seen the official art?

    Every single female character represents a different fetish.

    Sins are domination

    Preists are Nun.

    Blacksmiths are Cowgirl

    Hunters are the Tomboy/Heel.

    Knights are the Armor fetish

    So are Saders

    And Rogues, oh Rogues, thats your two dollar hooker fetish

    I think Knights are "Women with weapons" and Saders are "Big" women. Not just fat, but tall, buff, etc. Generally physically imposing.

    :-P But now that you mention it that makes a lot of sense...

    Wizards and Sages? Teacher fetish.

    I will admit my hunter was damn adorable and fun to play.

    But ugh.

    Just.. ugh.

    When will it die.
    I made a male Hunter because the promo art had him with a wolf.
    I worked my ass off to get him to a Hunter...
    ...
    ...
    All I get is a fucking BIRD?
    Assholes.
    I want a wolf. Keep your Blitz Beat. Give me Blitz Fang or some shit.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh. I'd always heard the called Japanophiles, and have consistently classified them as such. Fun new word, it shall fit right in with the rest of my vocabulary.

    Japanophile is less accurate though since that implies they are interested in Japanese culture as a whole(and there's nothing wrong with that). Weeaboos tend to be the bottom of the barrel of anime fans. There's:
    Guy who watches it: "Oh hey Cowboy Bebops on, that's cool."
    The fan: "I really should pick up the FLCL set."
    The 'otaku': "I should pick up more GAINAX stuff." (Not to be confused with the negative 'otaku'. This is just the guy who's a bigger fan)
    The Weeaboo: OMG SUPAH-KAWAII ^_^ I <3 NARUTO SO MUCH NARUTOXSASUKE 4 LYF LOLROFLMAO

    I think Something Awful came up with Weeaboo.
    4Chan also calls it "Wapanese", but that's also fairly offensive so I tend to avoid using it.

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    Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    My gf wanted the black cat ears, which is kind of like wanting hawaii.

    Like 9 million? I tried for hours just to get the ones that you need to turn into the black cat ears.

    That's another thing I liked about WoW over RO.
    RO?
    Ah I see. I don't know the classes yet, still have to research my characters and the choices. But I will keep that in mind.
    As much as I hate you, I feel I must warn you.
    Do not make an Acolyte/Priest unless you want people to assume you are THEIR healing bitch. Sure, Priests can Solo fairly well(look up "ME/Magnus Priest" and you'll pretty much rape the shit out of any Undead.)
    But seriously.
    No one respects Priests. They pretend to, but no one does.
    Which is funny, because Priests are, on average, the least obnoxious people in-game.
    Name a game which doesn't have a single freaking negative. Good God Man! Everything has bad points, deal with it.
    Here's the difference.
    EarthBound: Negative - Graphics are weak, even for it's time.
    Pros - Everything else.

    Ragnarok: Pros - Graphics are cute and towns are beautiful.
    Negative - Everything else.

    Earthbound was not perfect. Especially in difficulty balancing.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    My gf wanted the black cat ears, which is kind of like wanting hawaii.

    Like 9 million? I tried for hours just to get the ones that you need to turn into the black cat ears.

    That's another thing I liked about WoW over RO.
    RO?
    Ah I see. I don't know the classes yet, still have to research my characters and the choices. But I will keep that in mind.
    As much as I hate you, I feel I must warn you.
    Do not make an Acolyte/Priest unless you want people to assume you are THEIR healing bitch. Sure, Priests can Solo fairly well(look up "ME/Magnus Priest" and you'll pretty much rape the shit out of any Undead.)
    But seriously.
    No one respects Priests. They pretend to, but no one does.
    Which is funny, because Priests are, on average, the least obnoxious people in-game.
    Name a game which doesn't have a single freaking negative. Good God Man! Everything has bad points, deal with it.
    Here's the difference.
    EarthBound: Negative - Graphics are weak, even for it's time.
    Pros - Everything else.

    Ragnarok: Pros - Graphics are cute and towns are beautiful.
    Negative - Everything else.

    Earthbound was not perfect. Especially in difficulty balancing.

    I've played it so much I'm used to the random spikes in difficulty :P

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Wolf pets were planned but canned.

    You dont' want to play official 1/1/1. Hell even something as little as 2/2/5 makes all the damn difference in the world. Last time I played I was on a 5/5/5 and it still took 50+ hours from level 98 to 99. Non-rebirth.

    And I think RO2 did a good job of transitioning the cute 2D sprites to 3D.

    Ash, you're a horrible alt to not know anything about RO. And you're an even worse real person if you've never played it. This is worse than you just now taking a Jp class.

    So go play RO, get raped in the butt, and come out a true... something. Neo Weeaboo Z. That name sounds appropriate.

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    MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Neo Weeaboo Z, lol

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Loved it. It was awesome because you could just log in and do whatever. You don't need some sickly raid makeup to have fun, or some perfect spec to be able to pvp. About once a year I get all shivery and have an impulse to start playing again, but I've managed to stay clean from the aforementioned for 3 years now.

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Oh did I mention how sweet botting was? Because it was sweet.

    Go AFK for 3 days, come back with a full cart, full inventory and 4 million zeny. And 30 levels.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    robothero wrote: »
    Oh did I mention how sweet botting was? Because it was sweet.

    Go AFK for 3 days, come back with a full cart, full inventory and 4 million zeny. And 30 levels.

    Jesus hates you.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    robothero wrote: »
    Oh did I mention how sweet botting was? Because it was sweet.

    Go AFK for 3 days, come back with a full cart, full inventory and 4 million zeny. And 30 levels.

    Jesus hates you.


    He really does.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    robothero wrote: »
    Oh did I mention how sweet botting was? Because it was sweet.
    Go AFK for 3 days, come back with a full cart, full inventory and 4 million zeny. And 30 levels.
    That really might be the only way I'd still enjoy this game today. I've gotten addicted to modern MMOs' "have new skills and abilities every level/two levels!", so grinding for 20 hours to get a 2% improvement in stab is just...
    :|

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    robothero wrote: »
    Oh did I mention how sweet botting was? Because it was sweet.

    Go AFK for 3 days, come back with a full cart, full inventory and 4 million zeny. And 30 levels.

    And THAT's why you liked this crappy game. You didn't actually have to play it.

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Nah, I leveled a sin to 70something my first go around.

    Round two (a year later), however, was almost completely botting. And PvP.


    I'd still play it again if I didn't have to spend hours trying to figure out what all this new stuff is.

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    TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    RO has a fee now? I haven't played it since... 1999? 2000? I remember when it was free...

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    Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Ok I choose what I might be. What do you guys think?

    A Girl going for Swordsman -> Knight/Crusader -> Lord Knight/Crusader. I think I am going to name her Saber (ala Fate/stay night).

    Anything I should be aware of? Is this a good choice? Comments?

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    If you play a female character, twelve year old boys will hit on you.

    Constantly.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    They won't stop....they won't EVER stop.

    Caders are a pain in the ass to level, but pretty decent in groups and PVP.

    Knights are the gods of AOE grinding.

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Well you'd either have to pick Knight or Crusader.


    Are accounts still gender-bound?

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    Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm sure. So if you want a play a girl, for some godawful reason, you have to sign up as a girl.

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    Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    I choose the Swordsman line because I like fighting battles and hacking and slashing and such so a close combat character could be interesting since many have said its a grid sort of game. Also could anyone inform me if you could go Swordsman -> archer and then continue on the Swordsman path? I think agility and to hit factors would help even though I assume the swordsman has those.

    Edit:

    I could easily do a male swordsman, but will have to think of a proper name or find a reference for it.

    Actually, scratch that, I will have to do a male character. My GF just called Saber and like hell will I sign up as a girl.

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    If I was a girl I'd probably still play a male character. Some of the stuff people do is just creepy.

    And I'd totally make a Battle-Aco or ME and hang out in Glastheim.

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    Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    robothero wrote: »
    Well you'd either have to pick Knight or Crusader.


    Are accounts still gender-bound?

    What exactly is the difference between a Knight or Crusader? Abilities? Stats?

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2007
    Both.

    I'd read the website. It's pretty cut and dry.


    i.e. Crusaders use some int (I think), have spells, etc.



    And if you're going to be playing with someone who is going to be a Crusader/Knight already, I'd reccomend something else. Maybe an Alchemist, Wizard or Monk. I'd say Priest, but that's already been covered.

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