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[2018 State and Local Elections in the US] Dems Pickup MI, WI, IL, KS, NV, NM, ME

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Harry Dresden on
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Another reformer district attorney won tonight. In Suffolk, Massachusetts tonight. That's been a trend in cities since Ferguson.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Washington has 4 ballot measures

    940 has to do with police and deadly force

    Initiative 940 would create a good faith test to determine when the use of deadly force by police is justifiable, require police to receive de-escalation and mental health training, and provide that police have a duty to render first aid. It would remove the requirement that prosecutors show that a law enforcement officer acted with malice to be convicted.

    Initiative 1631 would establish a carbon fee and fund environmental programs. I don’t have the details on this one

    Initiative 1634 would ban cities from taxing “groceries”. Under current state law, groceries are not taxed by the state but cities have the option to do so.

    This initiative has been heavily advertised, and all the advertising scaremongers about families not being able to buy food because of potential taxes, but it’s actually being funded by major national beverage companies such as Coke, Pepsi, and Red Bull. Basically they’re afraid Seattle is going to tax sugary beverages and cut into their bottom line so they want to preemptively pass a law to prevent that.

    Initiative #1639 would implement restrictions on the purchase and ownership of firearms. These restrictions include background checks, storage requirements, and waiting periods for purchasing semiautomatic assault rifles, as well as increasing the minimum age to buy semiautomatic assault rifles to 21.

    The NRA has sued to keep it off the ballot, and they initially succeeded but the WA Supreme Court overturned that decision.

    940 has some shenanigans involving the legislature trying to keep it off the ballot by passing it then amending it (they're not allowed to do that). I'll be voting for it, because the "compromise" bill is too watered down. This also marks a time I mostly agree with Tim Eyman, which is a real "WTF reality" moment. They removed keeping up training being a requirement to maintain certification, did this (strikeout is 940, the rest is the replacement bill)
    (f) Alternatives to the use of physical or deadly force so that
    25 de-escalation tactics and less lethal alternatives are part of the
    26 decision-making process leading up to the consideration of deadly
    27 force ((is used only when unavoidable and as a last resort))
    which is bad, and did this
    1) It is the policy of the state of Washington that all law
    4 enforcement personnel must ((render first aid to save lives)) provide
    5 or facilitate first aid such that it is rendered at the earliest safe
    6 opportunity to injured persons at a scene controlled by law
    enforcement.
    which is gooseshit of the highest order. "Earliest safe opportunity" to law enforcement way too often means "after everyone has bled to death"

  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    On the other hand, she has Cuomo scared and frequently endorsing liberal policies like we'd expect for state as blue as New York. In the likely event of Cuomo's victory it'll be hard to claim she didn't win some herself.

    Lot of deep blue states get run by people who act like its a swing state and they should be more scared.

    Cuomo is likely partially worried, but I wouldn't call this scared. He has too much of an advantage, and since Cortez' victory is to be more on guard rather than being lazy and entitled. He's also more inclined to take her seriously since she's been trying desperately to make it personal. Which may cost her a position in his government if he wins the nomination and the general. Shifting influence to the left is excellent, but its a hollow second place to winning the primary itself.

    True. Though that and being in danger of losing to a challenger like Nixon are two completely different things.

    Of course Nixon's reputation will get blowback if she wins and is unable to implement her plans, especially if she can't outwit Cuomo's allies in the region who will want to make her look bad.

    edit: To be clear if I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Nixon without hesitation.

    He did shift left on a few things, and most importantly got the Independent Democratic Conference to shut down. This was a bunch of worthless assholes who caucused with the Republicans in the legislature in return for various whatnots, thus keeping the Republicans in the majority. Cuomo supported them, and I suspect the only reason he's gotten them to reconcile is because of general Democratic rage and Nixon's primary. Anyway, Nixon is out of NYC, which has a different set of priorities than upstate, so any chance she had really depended on Cuomo keeping on backstabbing the crap out of liberals (see also what he pulled on the Working Families Party). Now that he's modified his stances a bit she's basically toast. Getting Cuomo to shift as much as he has is the best outcome that one could realistically hope for. Between incumbency and upstate sucking it was always going to be a long shot.

    There was never going to be a chance of her getting a position in his administration, and Albany is basically run by the two legislature leaders and the governor so it's not like any position would have been anything other than buying her off. State level politics in New York are pretty god-awful.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Another reformer district attorney won tonight. In Suffolk, Massachusetts tonight. That's been a trend in cities since Ferguson.

    Which is Boston. I think the black woman factor had a bigger role tbh, but that's reform in its own way. Rachel Rollins answer on what she'd do differently in the 6 way debate:
    Rachael Rollins, former general counsel of MassDOT and former chief legal counsel Massport, Democrat: First and foremost, the office would reflect Suffolk County. Currently, it doesn't. There are 275 employees in the office, with 150 assistant district attorneys, and 131 of them are white. When we look at racial disparities in incarceration, I think the office should reflect the people that it serves. How do you do that is, intentionally. I think a lot of people that don't look like me say, “I believe in diversity.” Saying I believe in diversity, they think, is enough. You have to intentionally make sure you want women to be in leadership. You have to intentionally make sure you want people of different abilities to be in leadership. You have to work hard to make sure that there are people of color and, in particular, black and brown people, whom are the ones that are most often reflected in our criminal justice system. So you have to look and you have to search and you have to plead and you have to recruit and then you have to retain. As the former president of the Mass. Black Lawyers Association, as the chair of the Legal Redress Committee of the Boston branch of the NAACP, I have those contacts.

    An argument could be that Evandro Carvalho pushed reform per se more and Rollins pushed representation more, while the Henning was status quo/pseudo-incumbent

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

    It's tough to get good candidates, or at least experienced ones, because Cuomo will screw you if you cross him. Just his influence at the MTA is enough to make most NYC politicians think twice.

    Honestly, if the legislature is looking to go strongly Democratic I'm going to consider voting Republican because four years of Albany doing nothing is par for the course and I don't see Cuomo being removed any other way.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    daveNYC wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

    It's tough to get good candidates, or at least experienced ones, because Cuomo will screw you if you cross him. Just his influence at the MTA is enough to make most NYC politicians think twice.

    Honestly, if the legislature is looking to go strongly Democratic I'm going to consider voting Republican because four years of Albany doing nothing is par for the course and I don't see Cuomo being removed any other way.

    From the looks of Cuomo's status, his strength is the machine politics in the region. Break that or sever his ties with the players in his pocket, and he's vulnerable - which is going to take more than simply having a feisty rival candidate. It's too bad Cuomo is such a corrupt goose; his administrative skills must be very impressive to accomplish that, if only he were using it for good.

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    daveNYC wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

    It's tough to get good candidates, or at least experienced ones, because Cuomo will screw you if you cross him. Just his influence at the MTA is enough to make most NYC politicians think twice.

    Honestly, if the legislature is looking to go strongly Democratic I'm going to consider voting Republican because four years of Albany doing nothing is par for the course and I don't see Cuomo being removed any other way.

    From the looks of Cuomo's status, his strength is the machine politics in the region. Break that, and he's vulnerable - which is going to take more than simply having a feisty rival candidate. It's too bad Cuomo is such a corrupt goose; his administrative skills must be very impressive to accomplish that, if only he were using it for good.

    The Buffalo Beast used to have an annual bit listing the 50 worst people in the country. Karl Rove was on that list with a description that included something along the lines of "is thought of as skilled, but simply lacks the ethics that stops one from kicking a grandmother down the stairs".

    That's basically Cuomo with the addition of a last name that allowed him access to the New York Democratic machine. The only upside is that Cuomo looks like he wants a shot at the big seat in 2020, so he'll stay left(ish) and then not make it past New Hampshire.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

    This is my thinking as well.

    I can accept Cuomo as the governor again, and pondered voting Nixon to shift Cuomo left, but not sure that's the right strategy in the world we live in now.

  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Washington has 4 ballot measures

    940 has to do with police and deadly force

    Initiative 940 would create a good faith test to determine when the use of deadly force by police is justifiable, require police to receive de-escalation and mental health training, and provide that police have a duty to render first aid. It would remove the requirement that prosecutors show that a law enforcement officer acted with malice to be convicted.

    Initiative 1631 would establish a carbon fee and fund environmental programs. I don’t have the details on this one

    Initiative 1634 would ban cities from taxing “groceries”. Under current state law, groceries are not taxed by the state but cities have the option to do so.

    This initiative has been heavily advertised, and all the advertising scaremongers about families not being able to buy food because of potential taxes, but it’s actually being funded by major national beverage companies such as Coke, Pepsi, and Red Bull. Basically they’re afraid Seattle is going to tax sugary beverages and cut into their bottom line so they want to preemptively pass a law to prevent that.

    Initiative #1639 would implement restrictions on the purchase and ownership of firearms. These restrictions include background checks, storage requirements, and waiting periods for purchasing semiautomatic assault rifles, as well as increasing the minimum age to buy semiautomatic assault rifles to 21.

    The NRA has sued to keep it off the ballot, and they initially succeeded but the WA Supreme Court overturned that decision.

    seattle already passed a sugar beverage tax, I-1634 is a response to that

    I'm generally not a fan of vice taxes or regressive taxes, and the beverage tax is both, but the backers of the initiative are obviously not acting in good faith and I don't really want to reward that behavior, so I'll probably vote against it

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

    This is my thinking as well.

    I can accept Cuomo as the governor again, and pondered voting Nixon to shift Cuomo left, but not sure that's the right strategy in the world we live in now.

    Yeah, as we saw with Brexit, and with Trump (it wasn't just the Bernie Bros), you need to be careful when making a protest vote, if you're not prepared to live with the consequences. Especially when it's a binary choice, or a "first past the post" system.

    It's the primary, so that's not too much of a concern. More so would be if you think Nixon would blow it where Cumono wouldn't in the general.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Has there been a poll with Cuomo up less than like 30?

    I mean, fuck that guy, but I don't think it's really that tough of a primary for him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-governor/cuomo-widens-poll-lead-over-nixon-in-new-york-governor-race-idUSKBN1K82EC
    Cuomo, seeking his third term in office, has nearly triple the support of Nixon, with 59 percent of registered Democrats polled saying they would vote for him, versus Nixon’s 23 percent.

    Cuomo’s 36-point advantage was even wider than in a Quinnipiac poll in April, when his lead was 22 points.

    A 36 point lead in polling, from July. Haven't found any recent polls. If things haven't changed significantly it's his race to lose.

    Yeah Cuomo basically sucks, but Nixon is a shitty candidate who doesn't seem like she'd do very well. The only demographics Cuomo might not win are NYC based media (who hate him) and maybe rural white liberals.

    This is my thinking as well.

    I can accept Cuomo as the governor again, and pondered voting Nixon to shift Cuomo left, but not sure that's the right strategy in the world we live in now.

    Yeah, as we saw with Brexit, and with Trump (it wasn't just the Bernie Bros), you need to be careful when making a protest vote, if you're not prepared to live with the consequences. Especially when it's a binary choice, or a "first past the post" system.

    It's the primary, so that's not too much of a concern. More so would be if you think Nixon would blow it where Cumono wouldn't in the general.

    While true, stranger things have happened - like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. That said, Cuomo seems more engaged than Crowley ever was.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    ACO would not at all be stranger than a Cuomo lost. Crowley got redistricted into a seat that wasn't great for him demographically or ideologically if anyone dared to challenge the machine.

    Cuomo is popular, even though he's shitty. And obviously can't have his electorate change on him.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Gillum picked Chris King for Lt. Governor. I know nothing about him, but he ran in the primary too.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Massive voting rights initiative will be on the ballot in Michigan. Automatic registration, same day registration, no excuse absentee, etc.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Alaska governors race boils down to the incumbent Scott Walker who is an independent but leans leftish, Mark Begich who was one of our few Democrat national politicians, and Dunleavy who is rhe Republican challenger. Currently the fear is that Begich and Walker are gonna split the vote and Dunleavy is gonna walk on in.
    Alaska politics yall!

  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Alaska governors race boils down to the incumbent Scott Walker who is an independent but leans leftish, Mark Begich who was one of our few Democrat national politicians, and Dunleavy who is rhe Republican challenger. Currently the fear is that Begich and Walker are gonna split the vote and Dunleavy is gonna walk on in.
    Alaska politics yall!

    We seriously have two state governers named Scott Walker?

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Yup

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Alaska governors race boils down to the incumbent Scott Walker who is an independent but leans leftish, Mark Begich who was one of our few Democrat national politicians, and Dunleavy who is rhe Republican challenger. Currently the fear is that Begich and Walker are gonna split the vote and Dunleavy is gonna walk on in.
    Alaska politics yall!

    We seriously have two state governers named Scott Walker?

    No, Alaska has Bill Walker.

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Bill Scott what's the difference.
    (Is aghast that I've been calling him Scott all this time)

  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    Washington has 4 ballot measures

    940 has to do with police and deadly force

    Initiative 940 would create a good faith test to determine when the use of deadly force by police is justifiable, require police to receive de-escalation and mental health training, and provide that police have a duty to render first aid. It would remove the requirement that prosecutors show that a law enforcement officer acted with malice to be convicted.

    Initiative 1631 would establish a carbon fee and fund environmental programs. I don’t have the details on this one

    Initiative 1634 would ban cities from taxing “groceries”. Under current state law, groceries are not taxed by the state but cities have the option to do so.

    This initiative has been heavily advertised, and all the advertising scaremongers about families not being able to buy food because of potential taxes, but it’s actually being funded by major national beverage companies such as Coke, Pepsi, and Red Bull. Basically they’re afraid Seattle is going to tax sugary beverages and cut into their bottom line so they want to preemptively pass a law to prevent that.

    Initiative #1639 would implement restrictions on the purchase and ownership of firearms. These restrictions include background checks, storage requirements, and waiting periods for purchasing semiautomatic assault rifles, as well as increasing the minimum age to buy semiautomatic assault rifles to 21.

    The NRA has sued to keep it off the ballot, and they initially succeeded but the WA Supreme Court overturned that decision.

    seattle already passed a sugar beverage tax, I-1634 is a response to that

    I'm generally not a fan of vice taxes or regressive taxes, and the beverage tax is both, but the backers of the initiative are obviously not acting in good faith and I don't really want to reward that behavior, so I'll probably vote against it

    I don't necessarily care for the tax either, but fuck letting large corporations tell local cities how they can raise money. Which isn't counter to your point, but I just feel like this needs to be said a little more emphatically.

    I'd like to see more info on 1631, and hopefully I'll have time to do some more research on it, but at face value it looks reasonable, and I'm leaning yes.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Alaska governors race boils down to the incumbent Scott Walker who is an independent but leans leftish, Mark Begich who was one of our few Democrat national politicians, and Dunleavy who is rhe Republican challenger. Currently the fear is that Begich and Walker are gonna split the vote and Dunleavy is gonna walk on in.
    Alaska politics yall!

    The really shitty thing is the Dems won a court challenge to allow non-dems to compete in their primaries, which would have allowed Bill Walker (Who was a Republican until he decided to drop that affiliation and run alongside a Dem Lt. Governor in the last election) into their primary, but when Mark Begich (Former Mayor of Anchorage and 1-term US Senator) signed up, Walker dropped out because if he lost the Primary, he wouldn't be able to compete in the General. As you mentioned, that's likely going to split the vote, and allow Dunleavy, who despite being a member of the Alaska Legislature since like 2012, has little to no accomplishments to his name.

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    I have a lot of mixed feeling about Begich running. I think he is a better choice and personally support him but it might have been better for him to stay out to not give the reds a win.
    We do that enough as it is. Don young, who should have been put to bed long ago is definently gonna win again for congressman

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Bloods End wrote: »
    I have a lot of mixed feeling about Begich running. I think he is a better choice and personally support him but it might have been better for him to stay out to not give the reds a win.
    We do that enough as it is. Don young, who should have been put to bed long ago is definently gonna win again for congressman

    Don Young is pretty much invincible, but that's a conversation for the Congressional election thread.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Latest poll in CA has Cox only 5 points back fucking somehow.

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Given the crosstabs (tied among Hispanics, among other things), it sounds like it's just a trash poll.

  • Blameless ClericBlameless Cleric An angel made of sapphires each more flawlessly cut than the last Registered User regular
    Dunno if you want to add it to the OP, but Mass has these three ballot questions coming up:

    1. Placing a limit on the number of patients assigned to nurses and imposing a 25k fine (per violation) on hospitals found to be over the limit
    2. Creating a citizens commission to draft and push for a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United
    3. Upholding the current law against gender discrimination in public places (a YES to uphold, a NO to repeal)

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Given the crosstabs (tied among Hispanics, among other things), it sounds like it's just a trash poll.

    Indeed, everything about the data makes it seem incredibly weird.

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  • DacDac Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Pence complaining that Obama hitting the trail and pounding on Trump is a break from tradition and presidential norms is making my brain leak out of my ears.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Pence is just mad that the only past GOP president who could campaign is super unpopular and forgotten by the party...

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Pence is just mad that the only past GOP president who could campaign is super unpopular and forgotten by the party...

    But I thought Regan passed away

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Lot of controversy in the NY primary right now as the Democratic party put out a mailer accusing Nixon of anti-semitism just a couple days before the vote. Cuomo says he had nothing to do with it and the party is saying that it will send out a correction but the vote is on the 13th.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    What the fuck. Nixon didn’t even have a chance anyway? Why bother fucking with her?

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    What the fuck. Nixon didn’t even have a chance anyway? Why bother fucking with her?

    Incumbents get scared long before there's any real chance of losing.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Also Andrew Cuomo is a shitty, terrible human.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I feel like if you want to turn a non-threat into a genuine threat, that’s one possible way to do it!

  • BigJoeMBigJoeM Registered User regular
    The Israel lobby is very strong in NYC. Expect charges of antisemitism against any lefties looking to unseat Cuomo or Schumer.

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