That would be the Bell Riots. As near as I can tell they lead to a socialist uprising that destabilized the US. By that time the Middle East and Asia a smoldering crater of suffering. Lacking stable trading partners, the capitalists were already on the back foot. The US was in dire economic straits so it didn't take much to kick off the revolution.
It looks like the fourth Kelvin universe movie has been shelved.
I thought Beyond was great but I'm not too sad about this. Every Trek movie and tv show for the last 18 years has been a prequel. Enough is enough.
Star Trek Nemesis isn't 18 years old. Star Trek Nemesis CAN'T be 18 years old. I refuse to believe it.
*checks wikipedia*
Ha! It's just over 16 years old! Totally not 18!
*weeps over his lost youth*
Sometimes I forget Nemesis exists, for which I am very thankful.
Though it embodies everything wrong with modern Trek, doesn't it? Grimdark confused for maturity, rampant fridging, setpieces that make no sense, and the lingering impression that it was this close to being good. Nemesis came out when I was 13 and I'm still mad.
It looks like the fourth Kelvin universe movie has been shelved.
I thought Beyond was great but I'm not too sad about this. Every Trek movie and tv show for the last 18 years has been a prequel. Enough is enough.
Star Trek Nemesis isn't 18 years old. Star Trek Nemesis CAN'T be 18 years old. I refuse to believe it.
*checks wikipedia*
Ha! It's just over 16 years old! Totally not 18!
*weeps over his lost youth*
Sometimes I forget Nemesis exists, for which I am very thankful.
Though it embodies everything wrong with modern Trek, doesn't it? Grimdark confused for maturity, rampant fridging, setpieces that make no sense, and the lingering impression that it was this close to being good. Nemesis came out when I was 13 and I'm still mad.
I still have no idea what the movie was about. I mean, it dances around the nature vs. nurture debate, but the Shinzon/Picard relationship is so brief and disjointed (one moment they're having dinner, the next Shinzon is trying to destroy Earth) that whatever point it was trying to get across is lost between dunebuggy-ing and mind raping and a wedding and a bunch of other useless (if not offensive) distractions.
It's also another movie where Picard feels out of character. His hangup re: Shinzon isn't consistent with what we've seen from him before. I mean, Picard killed himself in "Time Squared." He flat out told Romulan Commander Sela that, despite the fact that she looked like Tasha Yar, that it wouldn't affect him carrying out his duty. It's hard to believe that a clone would generate that much... consternation from him.
That would be the Bell Riots. As near as I can tell they lead to a socialist uprising that destabilized the US. By that time the Middle East and Asia a smoldering crater of suffering. Lacking stable trading partners, the capitalists were already on the back foot. The US was in dire economic straits so it didn't take much to kick off the revolution.
It looks like the fourth Kelvin universe movie has been shelved.
I thought Beyond was great but I'm not too sad about this. Every Trek movie and tv show for the last 18 years has been a prequel. Enough is enough.
Star Trek Nemesis isn't 18 years old. Star Trek Nemesis CAN'T be 18 years old. I refuse to believe it.
*checks wikipedia*
Ha! It's just over 16 years old! Totally not 18!
*weeps over his lost youth*
Sometimes I forget Nemesis exists, for which I am very thankful.
Though it embodies everything wrong with modern Trek, doesn't it? Grimdark confused for maturity, rampant fridging, setpieces that make no sense, and the lingering impression that it was this close to being good. Nemesis came out when I was 13 and I'm still mad.
I still have no idea what the movie was about. I mean, it dances around the nature vs. nurture debate, but the Shinzon/Picard relationship is so brief and disjointed (one moment they're having dinner, the next Shinzon is trying to destroy Earth) that whatever point it was trying to get across is lost between dunebuggy-ing and mind raping and a wedding and a bunch of other useless (if not offensive) distractions.
It's also another movie where Picard feels out of character. His hangup re: Shinzon isn't consistent with what we've seen from him before. I mean, Picard killed himself in "Time Squared." He flat out told Romulan Commander Sela that, despite the fact that she looked like Tasha Yar, that it wouldn't affect him carrying out his duty. It's hard to believe that a clone would generate that much... consternation from him.
Keep in mind the arc in Generations where Picard's brother and family die and he laments that because he never had kids, the line of Picard is basically over. Shinzon, briefly, represents a chance to change that.
Kira eventually hits the jackpot. You can't tell me that being with a shapeshifter doesn't open the door to some wild and kinky shit.
A relationship with a shapeshifter does theoretically open the door to some wild and kinky stuff, but considering the shapeshifter in question, well... he ain't opening that door any time soon.
It looks like the fourth Kelvin universe movie has been shelved.
Couldn't see that not being the case. From what I remember they signed actors on for big money before Beyond released, ended up with the budget being slashed after Beyond's results, then were trying to renegotiate with actors to take big pay cuts.
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odo is new to the idea of sex, sort of! much less the act.
edit: also yeah o'brien fucks like a steam train.
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I don't think that Odo has much of a concept of kinky vs. non-kinky sex. It's just a bunch of solids engaged in weird moist squishing actions as far as he's concerned.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
I don't think that Odo has much of a concept of kinky vs. non-kinky sex. It's just a bunch of solids engaged in weird moist squishing actions as far as he's concerned.
He did have solid-style sex with the Dominion changeling once, but I don't think it was a particularly satisfying experience for either of them.
And that's even assuming they actually kind of knew how it was sort of supposed to work.
I don't think that Odo has much of a concept of kinky vs. non-kinky sex. It's just a bunch of solids engaged in weird moist squishing actions as far as he's concerned.
Kai Winn being placed as the head of the secular govt?
Sounds like a great idea!
what could go wrong
Louise Fletchers Winn Adami was really good, because you really really fucking hated her oh my god, and Fletcher loved playing her. Fletcher in an interview said she half jokingly suggested this at one point.
"I suggested at one point that little children should run in front of her dropping rose petals, you know, that she'd become so power mad, like Mussolini, you know, just out of control power mad,"
I don't think that Odo has much of a concept of kinky vs. non-kinky sex. It's just a bunch of solids engaged in weird moist squishing actions as far as he's concerned.
Odo: How big do you want it?
Kira: How big can you make it? <sexy eyebrow wiggle>
Odo: Bigger then your entire body.
Kira: ..... Oh, right. Um <makes hand gesture> that big then.
Louise Fletcher is one of the actors best at playing hateful characters in general. Her Winn is actually marginally less hateful than her Nurse Ratched, as far as I'm concerned.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
but then again pretty much every major role in DS9 is performed exceptionally well, tis why I am so fond of the entire goddamn cast
I still can't believe how incredibly good Bashir ends up being, from how he appears to be at the start of season 1. that character just goes places I did not expect and it's great
also I've said this in this thread before but Siddig is very good looking
I just started rewatching the series this week and I have to admit that I find the acting rather patchy - more so than I did when it originally aired. TV acting has changed a lot since the days of DS9, added to which they had a cast with vastly different styles of performing. Sisko's acting tends towards the stagy to such an extent that sometimes it comes close to bad acting - and he's not even at his most theatrical in S1. Terry Farrell is also not very good in the pilot IMO - but this early in the series it's difficult to say what is bad or mediocre acting, what is middling direction and what is the writers not quite knowing yet where they want to take the characters.
On the other hand, it's amazing that S1 produced an outstanding episode like "Duet", which is extremely dependent on the actors.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
It looks like the fourth Kelvin universe movie has been shelved.
I thought Beyond was great but I'm not too sad about this. Every Trek movie and tv show for the last 18 years has been a prequel. Enough is enough.
Star Trek Nemesis isn't 18 years old. Star Trek Nemesis CAN'T be 18 years old. I refuse to believe it.
*checks wikipedia*
Ha! It's just over 16 years old! Totally not 18!
*weeps over his lost youth*
Sometimes I forget Nemesis exists, for which I am very thankful.
Though it embodies everything wrong with modern Trek, doesn't it? Grimdark confused for maturity, rampant fridging, setpieces that make no sense, and the lingering impression that it was this close to being good. Nemesis came out when I was 13 and I'm still mad.
I still have no idea what the movie was about. I mean, it dances around the nature vs. nurture debate, but the Shinzon/Picard relationship is so brief and disjointed (one moment they're having dinner, the next Shinzon is trying to destroy Earth) that whatever point it was trying to get across is lost between dunebuggy-ing and mind raping and a wedding and a bunch of other useless (if not offensive) distractions.
It's also another movie where Picard feels out of character. His hangup re: Shinzon isn't consistent with what we've seen from him before. I mean, Picard killed himself in "Time Squared." He flat out told Romulan Commander Sela that, despite the fact that she looked like Tasha Yar, that it wouldn't affect him carrying out his duty. It's hard to believe that a clone would generate that much... consternation from him.
Keep in mind the arc in Generations where Picard's brother and family die and he laments that because he never had kids, the line of Picard is basically over. Shinzon, briefly, represents a chance to change that.
True, except that's not really where the personal conflict seems to lie. Instead, it seems to largely be about Picard freaking out at his own potential to be a monster. That he buys into Shinzon literally saying "I AM you... You would be doing the exact same things." It takes Data to point out that Picard and Shinzon, despite being genetically identical, are truly two different people.
What bugs me about this is that Picard has always been someone who doesn't believe that a tough/harsh upbringing is an excuse to commit bad acts. And while that attitude may come from privilege, it's one that he was consistent with until this movie. And the movie does little to really explain or examine it.
It looks like the fourth Kelvin universe movie has been shelved.
I thought Beyond was great but I'm not too sad about this. Every Trek movie and tv show for the last 18 years has been a prequel. Enough is enough.
Star Trek Nemesis isn't 18 years old. Star Trek Nemesis CAN'T be 18 years old. I refuse to believe it.
*checks wikipedia*
Ha! It's just over 16 years old! Totally not 18!
*weeps over his lost youth*
Sometimes I forget Nemesis exists, for which I am very thankful.
Though it embodies everything wrong with modern Trek, doesn't it? Grimdark confused for maturity, rampant fridging, setpieces that make no sense, and the lingering impression that it was this close to being good. Nemesis came out when I was 13 and I'm still mad.
I still have no idea what the movie was about. I mean, it dances around the nature vs. nurture debate, but the Shinzon/Picard relationship is so brief and disjointed (one moment they're having dinner, the next Shinzon is trying to destroy Earth) that whatever point it was trying to get across is lost between dunebuggy-ing and mind raping and a wedding and a bunch of other useless (if not offensive) distractions.
It's also another movie where Picard feels out of character. His hangup re: Shinzon isn't consistent with what we've seen from him before. I mean, Picard killed himself in "Time Squared." He flat out told Romulan Commander Sela that, despite the fact that she looked like Tasha Yar, that it wouldn't affect him carrying out his duty. It's hard to believe that a clone would generate that much... consternation from him.
Keep in mind the arc in Generations where Picard's brother and family die and he laments that because he never had kids, the line of Picard is basically over. Shinzon, briefly, represents a chance to change that.
True, except that's not really where the personal conflict seems to lie. Instead, it seems to largely be about Picard freaking out at his own potential to be a monster. That he buys into Shinzon literally saying "I AM you... You would be doing the exact same things." It takes Data to point out that Picard and Shinzon, despite being genetically identical, are truly two different people.
What bugs me about this is that Picard has always been someone who doesn't believe that a tough/harsh upbringing is an excuse to commit bad acts. And while that attitude may come from privilege, it's one that he was consistent with until this movie. And the movie does little to really explain or examine it.
But his view here is consistent with that. If upbringing is no excuse for someone to do bad things then whence comes Shinzon's bad acts except from himself. And his "himself" is Picard.
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Was that World War 3?
I thought Beyond was great but I'm not too sad about this. Every Trek movie and tv show for the last 18 years has been a prequel. Enough is enough.
Star Trek Nemesis isn't 18 years old. Star Trek Nemesis CAN'T be 18 years old. I refuse to believe it.
*checks wikipedia*
Ha! It's just over 16 years old! Totally not 18!
*weeps over his lost youth*
The cast was goddamn stellar. It's too bad they couldn't get them a good script.
That would be the Bell Riots. As near as I can tell they lead to a socialist uprising that destabilized the US. By that time the Middle East and Asia a smoldering crater of suffering. Lacking stable trading partners, the capitalists were already on the back foot. The US was in dire economic straits so it didn't take much to kick off the revolution.
Sometimes I forget Nemesis exists, for which I am very thankful.
Though it embodies everything wrong with modern Trek, doesn't it? Grimdark confused for maturity, rampant fridging, setpieces that make no sense, and the lingering impression that it was this close to being good. Nemesis came out when I was 13 and I'm still mad.
I still have no idea what the movie was about. I mean, it dances around the nature vs. nurture debate, but the Shinzon/Picard relationship is so brief and disjointed (one moment they're having dinner, the next Shinzon is trying to destroy Earth) that whatever point it was trying to get across is lost between dunebuggy-ing and mind raping and a wedding and a bunch of other useless (if not offensive) distractions.
It's also another movie where Picard feels out of character. His hangup re: Shinzon isn't consistent with what we've seen from him before. I mean, Picard killed himself in "Time Squared." He flat out told Romulan Commander Sela that, despite the fact that she looked like Tasha Yar, that it wouldn't affect him carrying out his duty. It's hard to believe that a clone would generate that much... consternation from him.
Yeah just Sisko totally polluting the timeline!!!
ARGH
Keep in mind the arc in Generations where Picard's brother and family die and he laments that because he never had kids, the line of Picard is basically over. Shinzon, briefly, represents a chance to change that.
Sounds like a great idea!
what could go wrong
B plot: OBRIEN DART GAME HIJINKS
Oh I dunno maybe the cutest bajoran boyfriend gets offed for no reason
A relationship with a shapeshifter does theoretically open the door to some wild and kinky stuff, but considering the shapeshifter in question, well... he ain't opening that door any time soon.
Kira is an animal
Bashir is generous but anxious
O'Brien is a God of raw unbridled passion
Couldn't see that not being the case. From what I remember they signed actors on for big money before Beyond released, ended up with the budget being slashed after Beyond's results, then were trying to renegotiate with actors to take big pay cuts.
edit: also yeah o'brien fucks like a steam train.
I don't think that Odo has much of a concept of kinky vs. non-kinky sex. It's just a bunch of solids engaged in weird moist squishing actions as far as he's concerned.
But he would never ever brag about it. He doesn't even rate himself, because he's not like that
But he absolutely is
He did have solid-style sex with the Dominion changeling once, but I don't think it was a particularly satisfying experience for either of them.
And that's even assuming they actually kind of knew how it was sort of supposed to work.
Ezri is way better at sex than Jadzia, for sure
Garak is really good but a little cold, distant. He's not got the passion.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
big mood
Worf broke up with Ezri after having sex with her one time. He even talks about how disappointing the experience was in comparison to Jadzia.
Yeah but what does Worf know about sexing
It very well could be that Worf and Jadzia make love and Ezri has sex.
Ezri ain't got time for making love, like 50 Cent
Cue Orville gif that's too big to post.
Steam ID: Obos Vent: Obos
Louise Fletchers Winn Adami was really good, because you really really fucking hated her oh my god, and Fletcher loved playing her. Fletcher in an interview said she half jokingly suggested this at one point.
Odo: How big do you want it?
Kira: How big can you make it? <sexy eyebrow wiggle>
Odo: Bigger then your entire body.
Kira: ..... Oh, right. Um <makes hand gesture> that big then.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
but then again pretty much every major role in DS9 is performed exceptionally well, tis why I am so fond of the entire goddamn cast
I still can't believe how incredibly good Bashir ends up being, from how he appears to be at the start of season 1. that character just goes places I did not expect and it's great
also I've said this in this thread before but Siddig is very good looking
On the other hand, it's amazing that S1 produced an outstanding episode like "Duet", which is extremely dependent on the actors.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
True, except that's not really where the personal conflict seems to lie. Instead, it seems to largely be about Picard freaking out at his own potential to be a monster. That he buys into Shinzon literally saying "I AM you... You would be doing the exact same things." It takes Data to point out that Picard and Shinzon, despite being genetically identical, are truly two different people.
What bugs me about this is that Picard has always been someone who doesn't believe that a tough/harsh upbringing is an excuse to commit bad acts. And while that attitude may come from privilege, it's one that he was consistent with until this movie. And the movie does little to really explain or examine it.
But his view here is consistent with that. If upbringing is no excuse for someone to do bad things then whence comes Shinzon's bad acts except from himself. And his "himself" is Picard.