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[WoW] The war fronts moves on Stromgarde!

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  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    Oh hey, Tyrael’s charger 2.0

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Frankly it's genuinely surprising that six-month sub incentives aren't offered more frequently

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I regret not buying the Tyerial's Charger, I regret not getting the Blizzcon mount last year, I regret not playing when the red croehound was around, or when the free motorcycle was available I'll be playing the next 6 months anyway so why not.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Frankly it's genuinely surprising that six-month sub incentives aren't offered more frequently

    If I were an evil person I'd offer this kind of thing mainly at the end of the content cycle before a new expansion to incentivize buying sub time when there's no new content coming

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  • NosfNosf Registered User regular
    Frankly it's genuinely surprising that six-month sub incentives aren't offered more frequently

    If I were an evil person I'd offer this kind of thing mainly at the end of the content cycle before a new expansion to incentivize buying sub time when there's no new content coming

    That was what they did with Tyrael's charger / "Free" Diablo 3 IIRC.

  • CiriraCirira IowaRegistered User regular
    So the 6 month sub thing made the wow tokens start spiking. Saw that they were sold out briefly as a result.

    Bucketman
  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Cirira wrote: »
    So the 6 month sub thing made the wow tokens start spiking. Saw that they were sold out briefly as a result.

    That might have been the point - less people will be paying $20 for tokens if they're only going to get 100k apiece from them. A mount that requires multiple tokens in a single shot to get is a good way to spike up the price and get people buying more tokens to sell for gold.

    Shadowen
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    I mean a lot of this comes down to "wow this sure seems like theyre giving people things so theyll keep giving blizzard money"

    Which is the point of a business.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9h8avf/the_true_source_of_bfas_problems/
    I think it's no secret at this point that the community's reception of BFA has been fairly negative so far. Lots of people are trying to understand why. What went wrong? Why is everyone so unhappy? What can we do to fix it? I believe we can answer these questions by looking at patterns from previous expansions. Let's begin.

    Admittedly, I have no data to support this, but from my own observations of the community, it seems that WotLK, MoP and Legion were the top 3 expansions in terms of community reception. BC is also praised fairly heavily, but I generally don't see it regarded as highly as the other three.

    The three most poorly-received expansions at this point are undoubtedly Cataclysm, WoD and BFA.

    So what do the good expansions have in common with each other? What were the bad ones lacking? The answer is a new subspecies of tauren. WotLK had Taunka, MoP had Yaungols, Legion had Highmountain Tauren. Cataclysm, WoD and BFA did not introduce any new tauren subspecies. It is clear, then, that this is what determines the quality of an expansion.

    A lot of people are making suggestions on how to 'fix' BFA, such as changing the way Azerite gear works, fixing the bugs, making rep grinding less painful, etc. None of these band-aid fixes address the root of the problem. The only way to save this expansion is to introduce a new subspecies of tauren ASAP.

    Here is my suggestion: Gazelle-tauren with orange-brown fur, white bellies, black stripes, and tall, wavy gazelle horns. They are adapted to hot weather and flat terrain, and live in the valleys of Vol'dun. They are called Lowvalley Tauren. Other ideas could include zebra-tauren, giraffe-tauren, or dinosauren.

    Thank you for reading and I hope you now understand what is causing problems in the game we love. I hope this change can be implemented soon to restore WoW to its former glory.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

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  • KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

    If anything, I think this is probably less offensive than other things since it's basically just a bonus (currently) to people buying 6 month subs. You're not paying extra for it.

    With that being said, there's been a shop for a long time now, I think that ship has already sailed.

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  • CorriganXCorriganX Jacksonville, FLRegistered User regular
    Holy shit, ANOTHER weapon emissary for alliance? D:

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Heck yeah, I’m excited since it’s actually a off-hand caster weapon for me. Which, up to this point, havn’t existed above like il320.

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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    Ok back to alliance for a priest. Maybe if I take long enough to level, 8.1 will come out (unlikely!).

    Have any priests had any luck leveling holy in BFA? I know I should probably go shadow, but I just don't entirely love how it plays right now.

  • KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    Ok back to alliance for a priest. Maybe if I take long enough to level, 8.1 will come out (unlikely!).

    Have any priests had any luck leveling holy in BFA? I know I should probably go shadow, but I just don't entirely love how it plays right now.

    I leveled as holy the entire way. It's mostly boring since everything takes forever to kill but it wasn't particularly difficult since you can keep yourself alive through mostly anything.

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  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    I think I'm done with healbot/clique/vuhdo stuff

    like it's convenient to be able to click cast in raids but giving up your ability to hard target is an awful trade as soon as mobility or awareness matters

    it extremely sucks in PvP since needing to keep track of your cursor is pointless when you can just keybind target

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    me: hmm i mean 40 conq is 40 conq might as well queue for the brawl

    brawl: average wait time 40 minutes

    oh.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Sterica wrote: »
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

    Yeah, I often think about how all of the cosmetic mounts on the ingame shop completely ruin my game experience.

    Dhalphir on
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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Ok back to alliance for a priest. Maybe if I take long enough to level, 8.1 will come out (unlikely!).

    Have any priests had any luck leveling holy in BFA? I know I should probably go shadow, but I just don't entirely love how it plays right now.

    Warmode for instant void form

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Walt wrote: »
    I think I'm done with healbot/clique/vuhdo stuff

    like it's convenient to be able to click cast in raids but giving up your ability to hard target is an awful trade as soon as mobility or awareness matters

    it extremely sucks in PvP since needing to keep track of your cursor is pointless when you can just keybind target

    In what way does using clique give up your ability to hard target?

  • KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    Walt wrote: »
    I think I'm done with healbot/clique/vuhdo stuff

    like it's convenient to be able to click cast in raids but giving up your ability to hard target is an awful trade as soon as mobility or awareness matters

    it extremely sucks in PvP since needing to keep track of your cursor is pointless when you can just keybind target

    Yeah, I've got a button set up to target. Most of the time I don't need it, but there's definitely situations where I do.

  • ZundeZunde Registered User regular
    Official forums have been acting weird and not registering me as having any characters ever since i bought the dreadwake.

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

    Yeah, I often think about how all of the cosmetic mounts on the ingame shop completely ruin my game experience.
    That’s literal content you aren’t getting that we were told our subscriptions were going towards. And let me cut off you at the next lame excuse and state that they’ve already told us that they don’t have enough time to add art assets for everything, so the money from the shop isn’t creating content that would have otherwise never existed. It’s literally taking time from the shit our subs pay for so they can triple dip.

    In short: it’s unfettered greed so please, for the love of god, don’t go to bat for billion dollar corporations.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

    Yeah, I often think about how all of the cosmetic mounts on the ingame shop completely ruin my game experience.

    I dunno, I think it's naive to believe that cosmetic mounts are made purely by a cash shop team that's paid from cash shop funding.

    More likely, the cash shop syphons off a significant number of unique designs that would otherwise be available from in-game sources as part of your subscription and/or box price.

    I'd love to be proven wrong on this.

    Kamar on
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Walt wrote: »
    I think I'm done with healbot/clique/vuhdo stuff

    like it's convenient to be able to click cast in raids but giving up your ability to hard target is an awful trade as soon as mobility or awareness matters

    it extremely sucks in PvP since needing to keep track of your cursor is pointless when you can just keybind target

    Macros and the default ui are plenty

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

    Yeah, I often think about how all of the cosmetic mounts on the ingame shop completely ruin my game experience.
    That’s literal content you aren’t getting that we were told our subscriptions were going towards. And let me cut off you at the next lame excuse and state that they’ve already told us that they don’t have enough time to add art assets for everything, so the money from the shop isn’t creating content that would have otherwise never existed. It’s literally taking time from the shit our subs pay for so they can triple dip.

    In short: it’s unfettered greed so please, for the love of god, don’t go to bat for billion dollar corporations.

    If they didn't make money, those corporations would not fund, develop, or maintain games. A bundle for 6 months of game time for less than the regular cost of 6 months of game time and a nifty mount is hardly the epitome of corporate greed.

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    It’s not a matter of making money. It’s about squeezing customers for every last goddamn cent and people just fall over themselves to defend it.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    It’s not a matter of making money. It’s about squeezing customers for every last goddamn cent and people just fall over themselves to defend it.

    I'm sorry, but offering a cosmetic item is not squeezing.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    And let me cut off you at the next lame excuse and state that they’ve already told us that they don’t have enough time to add art assets for everything, so the money from the shop isn’t creating content that would have otherwise never existed.

    It is blatantly obvious that it is much easier to justify having a given art team size if you can generate revenue from art beyond the sub.

    I have no idea whether this is true. You might be right. You might be wrong. It is entirely logical for either to be true. It's a lot easier for an art director to go to his boss and say "we need to hire an extra artist" if the justification is "so we can put them to work on store content".

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Sterica wrote: »
    It’s not a matter of making money. It’s about squeezing customers for every last goddamn cent and people just fall over themselves to defend it.

    And those people are little different than the people falling all over themselves to attack it, people who have likely never worked in an environment where you had to manage a budget and justify every team member's existence on a weekly basis.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Walt wrote: »
    I think I'm done with healbot/clique/vuhdo stuff

    like it's convenient to be able to click cast in raids but giving up your ability to hard target is an awful trade as soon as mobility or awareness matters

    it extremely sucks in PvP since needing to keep track of your cursor is pointless when you can just keybind target

    I just use macros.

    Something like:

    #showtooltip Regrowth
    /cast [@mouseover,help,nodead]Regrowth;Regrowth

  • EvermournEvermourn Registered User regular
    Frankly it's genuinely surprising that six-month sub incentives aren't offered more frequently

    I had just been thinking that in a couple of weeks I'd unsubscribe for a year or so (my usual pattern with new expansions). Guess I wont be now, that ship is pretty sweet. GG Blizzard subscriber retention division.

  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    me: hmm i mean 40 conq is 40 conq might as well queue for the brawl

    brawl: average wait time 40 minutes

    oh.

    i did the brawl

    it...didn't complete the weekly brawl quest?

    coooooool

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Bigity wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    It’s not a matter of making money. It’s about squeezing customers for every last goddamn cent and people just fall over themselves to defend it.

    I'm sorry, but offering a cosmetic item is not squeezing.
    But the shop offers more than cosmetics now so that excuse also falls flat.

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  • KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    Kamar wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    Glad this game that I paid for in addition to a recurring monthly fee has microtransactions.

    Yeah, I often think about how all of the cosmetic mounts on the ingame shop completely ruin my game experience.

    I dunno, I think it's naive to believe that cosmetic mounts are made purely by a cash shop team that's paid from cash shop funding.

    More likely, the cash shop syphons off a significant number of unique designs that would otherwise be available from in-game sources as part of your subscription and/or box price.

    I'd love to be proven wrong on this.

    You say significant, how frequently do you think mounts get added to the cash shop? I think maybe 2 were added during Legion?

    Also, this is mostly a solved problem since you can buy these mounts for gold, and they're definitely not the most expensive mounts you can purchase for gold, not by a long shot.

    Thorban
  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    It’s not a matter of making money. It’s about squeezing customers for every last goddamn cent and people just fall over themselves to defend it.

    I'm sorry, but offering a cosmetic item is not squeezing.
    But the shop offers more than cosmetics now so that excuse also falls flat.

    Such as?

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    If that pirate ship mount counts as a flying, ground, and water mount I'd be down but I will be appalled if it is not also a water mount (I still don't have a single water mount).

    I don't even really want to play WoW that much, I subbed a week or two ago and I've mostly ignored my now 111 Rogue to level up my Void Elf Mage for the transmog but I want that mount.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    If that pirate ship mount counts as a flying, ground, and water mount I'd be down but I will be appalled if it is not also a water mount (I still don't have a single water mount).

    I don't even really want to play WoW that much, I subbed a week or two ago and I've mostly ignored my now 111 Rogue to level up my Void Elf Mage for the transmog but I want that mount.

    It's not a water mount (but it should be dangit).

  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Bigity wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    If that pirate ship mount counts as a flying, ground, and water mount I'd be down but I will be appalled if it is not also a water mount (I still don't have a single water mount).

    I don't even really want to play WoW that much, I subbed a week or two ago and I've mostly ignored my now 111 Rogue to level up my Void Elf Mage for the transmog but I want that mount.

    It's not a water mount (but it should be dangit).

    #Boycottblizzard

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Bigity wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    Sterica wrote: »
    It’s not a matter of making money. It’s about squeezing customers for every last goddamn cent and people just fall over themselves to defend it.

    I'm sorry, but offering a cosmetic item is not squeezing.
    But the shop offers more than cosmetics now so that excuse also falls flat.

    Such as?
    Leveling. The ability to buy gold.

    PLEASE tell me how they don’t count, unlike the true skill of doing mindless quests and dungeons. I wanna see just how far the goalposts go.

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