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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Just reached rank 5 with that recruit Druid. Crazy strong, but expensive.

    I just don’t seem to have any idea how to play Recruit Druid. I went 1-7 with it, which matches previous experiences with the deck. Zoo is like “oh, were you trying to do something cool? Also, it’s turn six, and you’re dead.”

    EDIT: Played more games. Went 1-4. Screw this, I'm playing Shudderwock. This is what you're making me do, Dover. Another Shudderwock on the ladder, and it's your fault.

    Dover: [anguished] You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Shudderwock, not join them! Bring balance to the Meta, not leave it in darkness! [netdecks Shadowhope’s Recruit Druid list]
    Shadowhope: I HATE YOU!
    Dover: You were my brother, Shadow. I loved you. [leaves as Shadowhope, now too close to the Shudderwock jaws, gets bitten in half.]

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Why play meme decks when Token Druid and Evenlock as right there as generic powerhouses

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Idle thought, do handbuffs affect Jaraxxus?
    edit- they do not. Lame.
    I'm guessing it's because the hero version of Jaraxxus explicitly has a 15 health cap, and the 3/8 weapon just appears to be a static weapon, not anything dynamic based on the minion's attack. I mean if Skull or a Voidcaller pulls Jaraxxus onto the board, he keeps his buffs! :razz:

    Tangentially, a couple years back they changed Jaraxxus's interaction with "played minion" secrets like Snipe and Repentance.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    It's a shame. It ought to boost your health.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    Any reason why they don’t change Jaraxxus to a hero card?

  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Any reason why they don’t change Jaraxxus to a hero card?

    the same reason they don't change unstable evolution to an echo card

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Jaraxxus doesn't mechanically work like any of the other Hero cards, what with actively changing your health instead of adding armor. In addition, he has a lot of interactions (which aren't really relevant in standard right now, but) with things that care about minions or demon tribal, so I don't think he should be changed.

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    I remember Zoo running Jaraxxus with Voidcaller for the 3/15 deathrattle once upon an expac.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    It's before my time but why was Mal'ganis unplayable? He seems pretty powerful to me.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    It's before my time but why was Mal'ganis unplayable? He seems pretty powerful to me.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Mal'ganis was not unplayable, however he was pretty bad if he wasn't cheated out with Voidcaller

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    He found his way into Renolock as an option once they added DK Gul'dan and he's core to Cubelock.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    filthy wild player

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    Why play meme decks when Token Druid and Evenlock as right there as generic powerhouses

    Can your Token/Evenlock do this?

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    no it wins instead

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  • AlphagaiaAlphagaia Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Yilias wrote: »
    Why play meme decks when Token Druid and Evenlock as right there as generic powerhouses

    Can your Token/Evenlock do this?

    My memes are dreams nightmares!

    I like the deck, but isn't Hadronox a bit of overkill / win more without a way to destroy it yourself?

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    Usually they run mulch

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    If you use that Paladin card that draws two and swaps the costs, does it show your opponent the cards drawn?

  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    nah

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Alphagaia wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Yilias wrote: »
    Why play meme decks when Token Druid and Evenlock as right there as generic powerhouses

    Can your Token/Evenlock do this?

    My memes are dreams nightmares!

    I like the deck, but isn't Hadronox a bit of overkill / win more without a way to destroy it yourself?

    Yeah, most definitely. It's another way to bring back your big boys after your opponent has burned any morphing/silence effects on them already. Probably could get cut, or add a Naturalize, but for what?

    Personally I'm gonna stick with the list until it loses a lot.
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    11-1 is no joke for a meme deck.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Alphagaia wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Yilias wrote: »
    Why play meme decks when Token Druid and Evenlock as right there as generic powerhouses

    Can your Token/Evenlock do this?

    My memes are dreams nightmares!

    I like the deck, but isn't Hadronox a bit of overkill / win more without a way to destroy it yourself?

    Yeah, most definitely. It's another way to bring back your big boys after your opponent has burned any morphing/silence effects on them already. Probably could get cut, or add a Naturalize, but for what?

    pick three out of the following to cut:

    - steel rager
    - damaged stegotron
    - damaged stegotron
    - furious ettin

    add two naturalizes and a 2nd UI

    better deck!

    alternatively just one naturalize if you want, or maybe you're fine with one UI, etc etc. there's wiggle room probably. but those particular minions seem a bit meh.


    edit: oh hmm i guess those are the bulk of your taunt minions that actually get rez'd by hadro in the first place though huh. WELP. at the very least steel rager though.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Alphagaia wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Yilias wrote: »
    Why play meme decks when Token Druid and Evenlock as right there as generic powerhouses

    Can your Token/Evenlock do this?

    My memes are dreams nightmares!

    I like the deck, but isn't Hadronox a bit of overkill / win more without a way to destroy it yourself?

    Yeah, most definitely. It's another way to bring back your big boys after your opponent has burned any morphing/silence effects on them already. Probably could get cut, or add a Naturalize, but for what?

    pick three out of the following to cut:

    - steel rager
    - damaged stegotron
    - damaged stegotron
    - furious ettin

    add two naturalizes and a 2nd UI

    better deck!

    alternatively just one naturalize if you want, or maybe you're fine with one UI, etc etc. there's wiggle room probably. but those particular minions seem a bit meh.


    edit: oh hmm i guess those are the bulk of your taunt minions that actually get rez'd by hadro in the first place though huh. WELP. at the very least steel rager though.

    Yeah without them there is no reason to Hadronox. Those big boi taunts also help finish the quest when your 4-drops are being shy. Steel Rager is surprisingly good for spot removal. Not great, but not awful.

    The UI in this deck is mainly used to draw 5 0-cost minions for a huge swing turn. Same with Nourish not necessarily being best for mana. I'll look into adding a single Naturalize in place of something. Maybe a Spellstone? Hard to say, having that bit of removal really helps out a lot.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    Every now and then I need to do a dungeon run or a monster hunt when the quest pops up. Today I got the monster hunt quest and fired up the time mage. I have 25 kills with her and still haven't beaten it with her.

    First treasure that pops up?

    Double Time.

    Wow. It's the first time I've ever seen this. No wonder I haven't been winning with her!

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Waxmancer Sturmi is so overtuned.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Every now and then I need to do a dungeon run or a monster hunt when the quest pops up. Today I got the monster hunt quest and fired up the time mage. I have 25 kills with her and still haven't beaten it with her.

    First treasure that pops up?

    Double Time.

    Wow. It's the first time I've ever seen this. No wonder I haven't been winning with her!

    42 kills now and still no win. But at least I reached the final boss twice!

  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    VS article on polarity across various metas, short but interesting read:

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/meta-polarity-and-its-impact-on-hearthstone/

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Every now and then I need to do a dungeon run or a monster hunt when the quest pops up. Today I got the monster hunt quest and fired up the time mage. I have 25 kills with her and still haven't beaten it with her.

    First treasure that pops up?

    Double Time.

    Wow. It's the first time I've ever seen this. No wonder I haven't been winning with her!

    42 kills now and still no win. But at least I reached the final boss twice!

    I had nearly 200 before I got my win. You pretty much have to just keep hammering away at it until the stars align. It's pretty annoying.

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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    VS article on polarity across various metas, short but interesting read:

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/meta-polarity-and-its-impact-on-hearthstone/

    Jesus, you can't argue with the math. The meta is "healthy" only in that there are a lot of good decks, but yeah, you know going into a matchup whether you're going to win or not.

    Sad but not surprising to see Odd Warrior at the top of that.

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  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    VS article on polarity across various metas, short but interesting read:

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/meta-polarity-and-its-impact-on-hearthstone/

    This was a good read and helped me understand why I am so bored with HS for the last few expansions. I thought it was something else, but in the end it is similar to the reason they came up with.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    VS article on polarity across various metas, short but interesting read:

    https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/meta-polarity-and-its-impact-on-hearthstone/
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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    always a good look to say "Your article is bad! It's not objective!"

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    Also no response to "there's no counterplay except for stupid shit like Skulking Geist."

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I mean, you can't expect them to just admit that Hearthstone is bad

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    The Hearthstone team has always been too concerned about making your opponent feel bad by affecting their cards before they're played, and not concerned enough by making your opponent feel bad by playing solitaire.

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    If they feel that VS is basing their analysis on inaccurate/insufficient data then really the proper response is allowing the community to view the full collation.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Yeah but what Blizzard is really saying is "it's different at ranks 25-50."

    VS has plenty of data to have an accurate cross-section of the (edit: competitive) meta.

    edit again: I'm not being completely fair to the Blizzard guy. All he said was "our data does not indicate that polarization has increased as much over time as yours does." He does not say how much polarization they actually saw in any of the metas. Just based on his statement it's entirely possible that the internal polarization measures are all higher (but closer together) than VS's.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    This was my favorite reply in that thread, followed by my favorite response from VS:

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    Honestly this Donais reply doesn't even fuckin' surprise me though, this is just typical Team 5 modus operandi at this point. Dismiss, deny, deflect, cherry pick specific unrelated parts to actually comment on.

    I'm still not sure how they haven't learned how to interact with the community after all this time.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Because Ben Brode did something like 95% of it and was the only one who knew how to do it, and that tribal knowledge left with him.

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