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New Marvel Comics Thread Featuring Caving to Neo-Nazis and Wrongful Termination!

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular


    Jason Latour rules and this looks fantastic

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Chelsea Cain has tweeted a bit more and shed some more light on the situation which makes Marvel look even worse.

    The biggest of which are that it was meant to be Aud Koch's (who has 4/6 issues completed) big break into mainstream comics, and that they hired her for the gig back before Tom King even actually finished his run. As soon as they got word he had signed with DC they approached her to write a follow-up. So this has been in the works for 2 full years and they have most of the series completed and Marvel cancelled it the month before release.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Feels like the Conan/Leno situation.

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  • GustavGustav Registered User regular
    What a horrendously run business

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    Yeah like the best case for the people involved is they spent a bunch of time working on something which never sees the light of day and doesn't really advance their careers. It only goes downhill from there.

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    She was also quick to clarify what we pretty much already know, it is the top level editorial/management that is the problem

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    It reminds me of my post yesterday, about Iceman, which they canceled before it’s first trade actually came out. Then it did very well in trades, so they brought it back. And lost the artist to an image project in the meantime

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
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    They should release it as a limited series anyways

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    They should release it as a limited series anyways

    Marvel basically ignores all of Starlin's stuff in regards to continuity but still publishes it, so I dunno what they're so set on not releasing this.

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  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Just finished up Iron Fist S2, definitely better than the first season; and then the last five minutes...

    Ward remains one of the highlights of the show too.
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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist What's a fella to do? 'Cause her hair was black and her eyes were blue.Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    IIRC only like four spiders were actually bitten by a spider. Two by the same spider, and two in alternate universes. Also two clones of the guy who was bitten.

    Then there was the school bully who saw Peter get bit, then see peter use spider-like powers, tries to find the spider that bit peter, but it was dead.

    So the bully ate the spider.

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Bets that whatever plans they have are not followed through

    Is Patriot still on a farm upstate with lots of space to run around?

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    IIRC only like four spiders were actually bitten by a spider. Two by the same spider, and two in alternate universes. Also two clones of the guy who was bitten.

    Then there was the school bully who saw Peter get bit, then see peter use spider-like powers, tries to find the spider that bit peter, but it was dead.

    So the bully ate the spider.

    Say hello to The Thousand. (note: image they use on the page might be a big No for some folks.)

    I'm at a loss for words, there.

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Garth Ennis is not good at superheroes

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    except superman

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Just like Mark Millar. It's one of those oddities of the universe.

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular


    Well

    That definitely appears to be Matt Murdock in heaven with Karen Page

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    But it's Protestant Heaven, so he's very upset

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    I'm intrigued. They couldn't be bringing her back, could they?

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I'm intrigued. They couldn't be bringing her back, could they?

    no one stays dead

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    I'm intrigued. They couldn't be bringing her back, could they?
    I think hes dying instead

    The December issue is being billed as a big deal, its 4.99 and has multiple variants including a Frank Miller "restored" one so

    Things aren't looking good for DD

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    They're going to replace Matt with his twin brother Mike, huh

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i am genuinely curious as to what killing daredevil even accomplishes

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    i am genuinely curious as to what killing daredevil even accomplishes
    I am skeptical too but Soule is writing it and he has been doing DD for 3 or 4 years now and it has been largely fantastic so I'm willing to see where he goes with it

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel Shell, Teeth, Eyes, Flame, Claws, Breath, Scales, FUN!Registered User regular
    i am genuinely curious as to what killing daredevil even accomplishes

    don't say this around Kingpin

    Don't get it it twisted, I'm still cute as hell tho.
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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    i am genuinely curious as to what killing daredevil even accomplishes

    gives you a resurrection story in six months

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Daredevil becomes an angel and now he fights actual devils

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    oh like the punisher did a while back

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Punisher as an Angel of Vengeance was 20 years ago

    goddamn

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Daredevil becomes an angel and now he fights actual devils

    daredevil may cry

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Daredevil becomes an angel and now he fights actual devils

    daredevil may cry

    ....go on

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Daredevil becomes an angel and now he fights actual devils

    daredevil may cry

    ....go on

    He may not, though

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    It's really up in the air whether this dude's gonna cry

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    I don't see them killing Daredevil.

    To be fair, he doesn't see it either.

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  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka What Would Nyarlathotep Do? Registered User regular
    Daredevil Crybaby

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Chelsea Cain gave an interview with EW about Vision's cancellation.

    It goes over a lot of what she has already said, that the book was in the works for 2 years, 4 issues have been fully pencilled and inked and that they had zero warning on this cancellation. She also reveals just how shitty cancellations can be on released books. Mockingbird was cancelled by issue 3. Which means they either A) didnt even let it finish an arc before killing it or B) killed it IMMEDIATELY after the first issue since issue 3 would have been solicited the month of release. She was asked to not say anything until after the final issue had released about it being cancelled.

    But the real heavy hitter here is this bit:
    “The comic book industry is made up of freelancers. I think a lot of readers don’t understand the extent of that reality,” Cain says. “Certainly any comic book by Marvel or DC, those are the work of freelancers: Colorists, inkers, pencilers, letterers, cover artists, and writers. The editors work for the company. The freelancers don’t. Maybe some of them have exclusive contracts, which means that they get a little bit more money per page, and absolutely no benefits or protections, plus they don’t get to work for anyone else — but basically, every comic you pick up has been made by someone without health insurance. But these freelancers are still expected to behave like employees. They are told what to say and when to say it… I’ve said it before, but this whole industry is a class-action lawsuit waiting to happen. It’s astonishing.”

    This left Cain with few institutional protections when she was targeted by the anti-Mockingbird harassment campaign. She says, “Marvel put me through a lot with Mockingbird. I faced that with zero institutional protections. All along, I tried to be a part of positive change from the inside — silent change, because I literally was told I couldn’t breathe a word of the project. ‘Hold tight,’ they kept saying. ‘Hold tight. It breaks my heart. Because I think it sends a terrible message. And I love this brand. And I love these guys. And I love comics.”

    She also has a real killer line where she says the book was about the emotionally distance and out of touch Vision trying to connect with his young "woke" teenage daughter being "a metaphor for the comics industry if I've ever heard one."

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul no thank you, I prefer my hat Registered User regular
    Is 2 years for 4 issues normal?

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Is 2 years for 4 issues normal?
    Judging from what other creators have said no but that's not reflecting on, like, her being slow

    She said the first scripts were in for review in September of last year and Marvel didnt find them an artist until earlier this year

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul no thank you, I prefer my hat Registered User regular
    That's fairly reasonable.

    I wonder why Marvel won't release it as digital only?

  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Chelsea Cain gave an interview with EW about Vision's cancellation.
    “I’ve said it before, but this whole industry is a class-action lawsuit waiting to happen. It’s astonishing.”

    Fingers crossed!!!

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