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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    I haven't read enough month-to-month Superman comics, is he an investigate reporter on par with Lois? Is it a thing where he uses the bumbling Clark Kent persona to "bumble" his way into leads or whatever

    Yeah, he and Lois are the top reporters

    Both have won pulitzers

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I didn't know where else to put this, but I started watching The Boys. Only the first episode so far, and while I don't love all the changes, the changes they made so far work in the show's favor and some of the changes in writing/adapting it to a TV show have really helped it.

    That being said I miss The Deep's outfit from the comic

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    Superman fighting ordinary, weird dudes consistently owns

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    I haven't read enough month-to-month Superman comics, is he an investigate reporter on par with Lois? Is it a thing where he uses the bumbling Clark Kent persona to "bumble" his way into leads or whatever

    it's more an absent-minded professor but journalism deal, where he is very good at his job, and very bad at eating a hot dog without getting mustard on his shirt

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Everyone should read Bendis' current Action run which very heavily focuses on both Clark as a journalist and Superman dealing with foes he can't just beat up

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I haven't read enough month-to-month Superman comics, is he an investigate reporter on par with Lois? Is it a thing where he uses the bumbling Clark Kent persona to "bumble" his way into leads or whatever

    it's more an absent-minded professor but journalism deal, where he is very good at his job, and very bad at eating a hot dog without getting mustard on his shirt

    This tracks with "Clark Kent" being my go-to nickname from the high school students I work with.

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    All Along The Watchtower: A DCAU Podcast.

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Those last two are really good.

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Those last two are really good.
    Honestly I think Joe Keery might be my favorite part?

    He's easily the best part of Stranger Things and while I wouldn't have thought about him for Terry initially he would fuckin kill that role

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    If I remember correctly, Lois is very good at digging deep and uncovering things like corruption and criminal conspiracies, Clark is really good at interviewing people and actually writing the stories

    Always liked that they each have their own strengths and will approach a story from completely different angles.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    Dizzy D wrote: »
    If I remember correctly, Lois is very good at digging deep and uncovering things like corruption and criminal conspiracies, Clark is really good at interviewing people and actually writing the stories

    Always liked that they each have their own strengths and will approach a story from completely different angles.

    The thing is, they have the same strengths. Except Lois doesn't have Clark's powers and she still does the damn thing

    It's important that Lois inspires Clark just as much as Superman inspires Lois. It's the entire basis of their relationship

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited August 13
    I haven't read enough month-to-month Superman comics, is he an investigate reporter on par with Lois? Is it a thing where he uses the bumbling Clark Kent persona to "bumble" his way into leads or whatever

    Usually they are the top reporters in the city but Clark cheats a lot so.

    Also the amount of bumble Clark has tends to shift from writer to writer. As I recall animated Clark is just very straight laced and small town-y but very serious and a bit clever. Morrisons Action comics had Clark as a investigative journalist with a chip on his shoulder but who looked like he couldn't dress himself. He wore clothes that were a few sizes too big to hide his physique. I may be forgetting but I don't think Secret Origins or Birthright really had him bumbling.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Actually I'm not sure I've ever read or saw a piece of Superman media where he was the bumbler he was in the Donner movies?

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    he was reeve as hell in all-star superman, just off the top of my head

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    he was reeve as hell in all-star superman, just off the top of my head

    Oh yeah there you go. I knew there had a to be a good example of bumbly Superman in a comic I'd read. There is a whole scene where he pretends to trip to save people a bunch.

    I bet if I read any Superman comics from before the modern age I could name more.

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    Dizzy D wrote: »
    If I remember correctly, Lois is very good at digging deep and uncovering things like corruption and criminal conspiracies, Clark is really good at interviewing people and actually writing the stories

    Always liked that they each have their own strengths and will approach a story from completely different angles.

    The thing is, they have the same strengths. Except Lois doesn't have Clark's powers and she still does the damn thing

    It's important that Lois inspires Clark just as much as Superman inspires Lois. It's the entire basis of their relationship

    Completely Not what I'm talking about. Superman is not a part of my point, I'm talking about Clark Kent the reporter and Lois Lane the reporter. There have been stories about Clark Kent being a reporter without using his powers (mostly because they wanted to establish Clark as a great journalist in his own when his Silver Age version was mostly him reporting on how great Superman was) Both are Pulitzer price winners, but their articles are written differently and you would immediately recognize if the article was a Lane or a Kent article (though over the years they have learned from each other and taking on aspects of each other).

    I don't think it was ever established which Pulitzer either received, but Lois is definitely Investigative Reporting and Clark (the few times I saw his actual articles) always seem like Explanatory Reporting. Of course, different writers/different styles and I haven't been reading Superman recently, though I did pick up the new Lois Lane solo-series (not read #2 yet, hope to get it this afternoon).

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    I always imagined Lois writing hard hitting articles about govnerment corruption, the mob, corporate cover ups and that kind of thing.

    Whilst Clark write an article that starts about the best apple pie in Kansas but morphs into a heavy piece about the struggle of small businesses.

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  • darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    So I just watched Aquaman and it is very unsubtle, extremely over the top, bright and colorful, and 100% sincere.

    And I love it!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    My favorite touch about the Reeve superman is that when he's superman he parts his hair like he's right handed.

    And when he's Clark he parts his hair like he's left handed.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Finally finished Watchmen and this is where I finally give up my long-held "say what you will about the movie, kinda like the ending better" but nah this is better

    It's neat and tidy to make Ozymandias' plan to use Dr. Manhattan as the threat, but the absolute last thing Watchmen is about is neat and tidy

    what I find pretty striking about it is it really doesn't particularly give you what you want, there are almost no action scenes in the entire thing, the prison break is basically the only one, there's no big battle with Ozymandias cause he just immediately neutralizes anyone that tries to go after him, the final confrontation is just...a conversation of ideology and character, which I, as someone that pretty universally finds action sequences to be the least interesting part of comics, am extremely pleased with

    I don't know if they do right by either Silk Spectre, having the elder be COMPLETELY centered around her abuser by the end, and the younger being just kind of overall underwritten (exemplified by all the extra concept art content in the back of the book having Dave Gibbons' notes on the defining characteristics of each character, and every character has 8-10 notes while Silk Spectre has 2)

    I continue to be extremely interested in what the show is gonna do, because they're saying exclusively the most intriguing things, particularly with Jeremy Irons as an aging Ozymandias

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I know this has been discussed a lot

    But I’m reading All-Star Superman now and god Frank Quitely’s art is truly atrocious

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  • GustavGustav Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I know this has been discussed a lot

    But I’m reading All-Star Superman now and god Frank Quitely’s art is truly atrocious

    i'm scowling so hard at this

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    In fairness, Quitely is very good at drawing lumpy potato people.

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    after watching the new rocko special, it finally hit me:

    frank quitely's biggest influence is rachel bighead

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  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    In fairness, Quitely is very good at drawing lumpy potato people.

    Also, Superman is supposed to be swollen. It's part of the story.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread Registered User regular
    Quitely's All Star Superman art is fantastic

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited August 12
    In fairness, Quitely is very good at drawing lumpy potato people.

    Also, Superman is supposed to be swollen. It's part of the story.

    What about everyone else he draws like that, what's their excuse?

    I get that he has a certain style, an "aesthetic" if you will. I don't care for it, personally. Clearly, others (in this very thread) do.

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  • GustavGustav Registered User regular
    I think Frank Quitely is one of the only artists in superhero books that takes consideration of body language

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    I think there's a difference between bad art and art that one personally doesn't like (but don't ask me to delineate how to make that distinction).

    We3 is a Morrison/Quitely comic about three lab animals who've had exoskeletons grafted onto them by the government to make, more or less, military bio-drones. They manage to escape, and spend most of the comic running from soldiers who are trying to recapture them. A couple of times, they have to stand and fight. This is one of my favorite sequences from that comic:
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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I actually think that sequence is technically poor! Unless the intent is to make the action visually confusing and hard to parse. It feels far too "let's do something weird with the formatting here without regard to whether it reads well"

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  • GustavGustav Registered User regular
    I think it's a brilliant way to demonstrate how the augmented exoskeletons move faster than human perceptions can actually react to.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I think the idea behind the sequence is interesting, but I still find it really hard to parse what's actually happening

    Overall I think Frank Quitely does have some cool ideas on how to make dynamic comic books, and I appreciate that a lot

    But I also think his art is ugly and I don't want to look at it

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    Most of Quietlys work I don’t like, but all star superman is the solid exception. It works so perfectly for that book.

  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    I actually think that sequence is technically poor! Unless the intent is to make the action visually confusing and hard to parse. It feels far too "let's do something weird with the formatting here without regard to whether it reads well"
    My read on it is: The action happening in the individual panels is not important. It's clear that there is some cat-caused mayhem and evisceration happening, but the individual details may be hard to make out. On the other hand, the thing that's clear is the cat jumping into the sequence on the left and then leaping from panel to panel through extra-panel space. It's starting some shit over here, them somersaulting over there, and as a result there's a decapitated head flying through the air.

    If you want to be a comics formalism dork, you can talk about how the gutter between panels represents time - the time that passes in between the snapshots of time represented by panels, the time that the characters in the panels cannot be aware of, but the reader is - and that by moving through the gutters the cat moves through time in a way that characters who are confined to individual panels literally cannot follow because their perceptions don't extend into it.

    Alternatively, I think you can look at that and go "Dang, that cat is doing violent martial arts to those soldiers".

    It's like those panels that show off how agile Spidey/Daredevil/whoever is by showing multiple ghostly silhouettes that are hopping from one minion head to another, doing a kickflip off a wall, socking a baddie in the face, with motion lines connecting the silhouettes - only instead of happening in one panel, the cat is flipping through a stack of panels, a stack of frames, a series of still moments in time.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 12
    All Star Superman is the best Quietly has ever been. I don't like Quietly's work much, but it does just work in Superman.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    The art is well-directed but everyone looks like they are in the midst of some horrendous plague

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    But that's just life in the 2000s.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Ask me about my scrotalist agenda Registered User regular
    I can't find it now but one of the best Quietly sequences is a four panel scene of Batman (Dick Grayson) and Robin (Damian) fighting some crooks with a garbage can. Except... he draws the moments between the punches and actiony bits. The action is all implied by where the characters are in the scene. It's very simple, nothing complicated. The bread and butter of superhero comics but it is done really well.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    edited August 13
    I don’t think I’m enjoying anything about All-Star Superman, actually

    I don’t like these versions of these characters, I’m kinda hating the stories these issues tell (Lois can be Superman for a day! She just sorta walks around watching things happen for it!), and I’m not engaged by the overarching story

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I don’t think I’m enjoying anything about All-Star Superman, actually

    I don’t like these versions of these characters, I’m kinda hating the stories these issues tell (Lois can be Superman for a day! She just sorta walks around watching things happen for it!), and I’m not engaging by the overarching story

    I'm really sorry that we have to fight now

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