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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    It also begs the question "How low can Sinestro go?"

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Delduwath wrote: »
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    I can't find it now but one of the best Quietly sequences is a four panel scene of Batman (Dick Grayson) and Robin (Damian) fighting some crooks with a garbage can. Except... he draws the moments between the punches and actiony bits. The action is all implied by where the characters are in the scene. It's very simple, nothing complicated. The bread and butter of superhero comics but it is done really well.
    I think this is the one you're talking about:
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    Are these guys supposed to specifically be call backs to the mutant gang from Dark Knight Returns?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    My shop likes to pull titles they think I might like, the dude working Wednesdays is nice and we chat about books a bit so he knows the writers and artists I dig, and they put in the Sinestro Year of the Villain one-shot from last week since I like Mark Russell a lot. I decided to get it, per the guy's recommendation, and it was a good call cause it was a rad little done-in-one.

    It has Sinestro being tasked by Luthor to stop a potential threat to the LoD's plans, a race of towering Paragons from another universe who instantly heal from any wound and are wiping out Luthor's defense outposts.

    Eventually Sinestro discovers
    They are, essentially, a giant armored suit for a core brain, filled with aj entire civilization of creatures that live their entire lives in .8 milliseconds and spend most of that time in service of repairing the Paragon whom they revere as a god-emperor.

    Sinestro sends microscopic ring construct duplicates of himself inside the Paragons to try and disrupt the civilization to middling results. Until one duplicate proposes a different solution, and then during the next assault the Paragons don't heal and are quickly routed.

    Sinestro then reveals his plan:
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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Jesus Christ

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    that story is very dope but i just can't take that luthor look seriously

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    that story is very dope but i just can't take that luthor look seriously
    Yeah I am liking Snyder's JL run but Luthor's role in it is not really working for me at all

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Mark Russell is probably my favorite comic writer right now

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Mark Russell is probably my favorite comic writer right now

    Eh, if the above is any example,
    "haha, see, the villain defeated and/or enslaved a population by getting them to think and act just like modern humans, aren't humans stupid and silly, except for me (because pointing this out makes me so very wise and clever)" is, IMO, not really particularly wise, clever or all that new.

    tl;dr Jonathan Swift he ain't.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    That’s a weirdly aggro response

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Possibly. Could just be that I'm feeling down and/or cranky, and/or that
    mocking The Folly of Man doesn't strike me as novel or funny right now. "lol people r dum" is the lowest hanging of fruits.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    It is less mocking and more a very sad commentary

    The issue is not intended to be funny, outside of a few lines

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Everything I've read of Russell's is blatant political commentary using superheroes (or Hanna Barbera characters) and jokes.

    It's not Swift-like satire, it's using almost word-to-word things from the real world to undercut how fucked they are

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    His Wonder Twins repeatedly features inmates at a for profit prison having to work call center jobs for Lex Corp

    He ain't subtle but as someone who works at a call center, Russell can fuckin cut deep when he wants to

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    His Wonder Twins repeatedly features inmates at a for profit prison having to work call center jobs for Lex Corp

    He ain't subtle but as someone who works at a call center, Russell can fuckin cut deep when he wants to

    It is also something that literally actually happens

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    yeah, okay
    I'm already drowning in that shit, I don't need more buckets of it poured on my head
    peace out, I guess

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Is the message of the comic:
    "Society gets fucked by giving people freedom and letting them protest against war.
    The solution is a dictator."?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Is the message of the comic:
    "Society gets fucked by giving people freedom and letting them protest against war.
    The solution is a dictator."?
    Not at all?
    The message is that individual identity and independent thought thrives when people are able to have time for themselves and their own desires which makes taking those things away a terrifyingly easy way to manipulate people into giving up their sense of identity for the idea of working for a greater cause

    Sinestro is NOT the hero, it is explictly a Year of the VILLAIN one-shot, what he does is fucking monstrous

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    he destroys their society by guving them freedom. Its hippies and antiwar protestors that are depicted as destroying the Paragons.

    Setting up himself as dictator is how he controls the last one. But the rest were destroyed by freedom and the left.

    The message seems to be that introspection is bad.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited August 2019
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    he destroys their society by guving them freedom. Its hippies and antiwar protestors that are depicted as destroying the Paragons.

    Setting up himself as dictator is how he controls the last one. But the rest were destroyed by freedom and the left.

    The message seems to be that introspection is bad.
    The Paragons were not good

    They were enslaving the Microns and wiping out entire planets in their pursuit of destroying Luthor's forces

    So their being wiped out by individuality is good.

    It is Sinestro weaponizing his plan and taking it back from them that makes him worse than the Paragons

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Ahhh. That makes sense.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    he destroys their society by guving them freedom. Its hippies and antiwar protestors that are depicted as destroying the Paragons.

    Setting up himself as dictator is how he controls the last one. But the rest were destroyed by freedom and the left.

    The message seems to be that introspection is bad.
    The rest were destroyed by Sinestro. The remaining one is only still alive because Sinestro set himself up as a dictator so the Microns would serve his will and repair the Paragon.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Sina Grace would be a solid pick to take over Shazam as Geoff Johns cant write a book on any sort of schedule nowadays

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    let it be a black adam ongoing instead

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    shazam who laughs

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Only one hand, so one of the characters Johns wrote during his #disarm period?

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    that story is very dope but i just can't take that luthor look seriously

    I don't like the return to Sinestro's older costume. The design of his shirt makes him look like a court jester. The various costumes he had as a Green or Yellow Lantern were all better.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    shazam who laughs
    Congrats, you win a Kewpie doll
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    And, sadly, I am a genius and was right:
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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Why is Blue Beetle a hellboy tooth fairy

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Why is Blue Beetle a hellboy tooth fairy
    Because he has been twiiiiisted by the Batman Who Laughs

    It just

    It bums me out

    He had his own book in Rebirth and it was fine but short lived and in this big resurgence of teen DC heroes somehow he hasn't been pulled for Young Justice or Teen Titans or even Titans when that was a thing

    He is one of their most underused, interesting characters and this is what they're going with

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    I like the Batman who Laughs as a concept.

    A very, VERY sparsely used concept. Like Superboy Prime. You know, a villian who’s appearance every decade or so makes you go HOLY SHIT OH NO.

    But it is very apparent he’s hitting whatever algorithm DC uses real hard and now it’s just dumb.

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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    Isn't “corrupted Captain Marvel” just Black Adam?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I like the Batman who Laughs as a concept.

    A very, VERY sparsely used concept. Like Superboy Prime. You know, a villian who’s appearance every decade or so makes you go HOLY SHIT OH NO.

    But it is very apparent he’s hitting whatever algorithm DC uses real hard and now it’s just dumb.

    Ah, so you want a Superboy Prime Who Laughs.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    Isn't “corrupted Captain Marvel” just Black Adam?

    I'm not super up on Captain Marvel, but Black Adam is not chaotic evil.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Black Adam is a hero

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    I like the Batman who Laughs as a concept.

    A very, VERY sparsely used concept. Like Superboy Prime. You know, a villian who’s appearance every decade or so makes you go HOLY SHIT OH NO.

    But it is very apparent he’s hitting whatever algorithm DC uses real hard and now it’s just dumb.

    Ah, so you want a Superboy Prime Who Laughs.

    Superboy Prime would end up being impossible to corrupt because he developed an immunity after many, many hours raging about how lame Batman Who Laughs was on the Internet.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I like the Batman who Laughs as a concept.

    A very, VERY sparsely used concept. Like Superboy Prime. You know, a villian who’s appearance every decade or so makes you go HOLY SHIT OH NO.

    But it is very apparent he’s hitting whatever algorithm DC uses real hard and now it’s just dumb.

    Ah, so you want a Superboy Prime Who Laughs.

    Superboy Prime would end up being impossible to corrupt because he developed an immunity after many, many hours raging about how lame Batman Who Laughs was on the Internet.

    Ah so the Superboy Prime Who Laughs just spams the LUL emote in twitchchat.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    I'm not sure I see the difference between Superboy Prime and Superboy Prime Who Laughs, then.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    one shops at Hot Topic, the other is on merchandise there

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Delduwath wrote: »
    I'm not sure I see the difference between Superboy Prime and Superboy Prime Who Laughs, then.

    That would be the third act twist to subvert expectations.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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