Are the PAL games really that bad? My PS1 Classic is waiting for me at Best Buy.
The dude in that video above made the same observation of them that I saw watching his video. In a vacuum you will probably just write it off as the game being old and not noticing much. But if you have the original NTSC version and play them about the same time you'll notice the difference.
Remember those tiny little Arcade Classics Walmart's been putting out? They've quietly gotten up to 12 of them, including a Fix-It-Felix Jr. (the faux-classic game from Wreck-It-Ralph).
I get that the point of those things is to have the cute little plastic cabinet thing sitting around, but man, those games are not worth (individually) $15-$20 to play.
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to play those games on that small of a screen.
Judging by my local walmart, people aren't paying $300 to play a few classic arcade games on the full-size units they have now, either. Well, half-size or whatever they are. They look cool but $300 for at best 5 games per unit? Ridiculous.
I never had a Playstation but judging from the reactions to the PS Classic it would be better to just get copies of the PS1 games and play them on my wife's PS2.
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Remember those tiny little Arcade Classics Walmart's been putting out? They've quietly gotten up to 12 of them, including a Fix-It-Felix Jr. (the faux-classic game from Wreck-It-Ralph).
I get that the point of those things is to have the cute little plastic cabinet thing sitting around, but man, those games are not worth (individually) $15-$20 to play.
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to play those games on that small of a screen.
Judging by my local walmart, people aren't paying $300 to play a few classic arcade games on the full-size units they have now, either. Well, half-size or whatever they are. They look cool but $300 for at best 5 games per unit? Ridiculous.
I never had a Playstation but judging from the reactions to the PS Classic it would be better to just get copies of the PS1 games and play them on my wife's PS2.
or on a ps3, or on a psp, or on a Vita, or PS TV, or the pc/xbox/nintendo ports... there are so many better ways to play PS1 games legally.
Remember those tiny little Arcade Classics Walmart's been putting out? They've quietly gotten up to 12 of them, including a Fix-It-Felix Jr. (the faux-classic game from Wreck-It-Ralph).
I get that the point of those things is to have the cute little plastic cabinet thing sitting around, but man, those games are not worth (individually) $15-$20 to play.
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to play those games on that small of a screen.
Judging by my local walmart, people aren't paying $300 to play a few classic arcade games on the full-size units they have now, either. Well, half-size or whatever they are. They look cool but $300 for at best 5 games per unit? Ridiculous.
I never had a Playstation but judging from the reactions to the PS Classic it would be better to just get copies of the PS1 games and play them on my wife's PS2.
Remember those tiny little Arcade Classics Walmart's been putting out? They've quietly gotten up to 12 of them, including a Fix-It-Felix Jr. (the faux-classic game from Wreck-It-Ralph).
I get that the point of those things is to have the cute little plastic cabinet thing sitting around, but man, those games are not worth (individually) $15-$20 to play.
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to play those games on that small of a screen.
Judging by my local walmart, people aren't paying $300 to play a few classic arcade games on the full-size units they have now, either. Well, half-size or whatever they are. They look cool but $300 for at best 5 games per unit? Ridiculous.
I never had a Playstation but judging from the reactions to the PS Classic it would be better to just get copies of the PS1 games and play them on my wife's PS2.
or on a ps3, or on a psp, or on a Vita, or PS TV, or the pc/xbox/nintendo ports... there are so many better ways to play PS1 games legally.
Yep, that's why I said that it probably would be fine in a vacuum. His video helped me feel better about cancelling my pre-order of the unit. I'll probably pick one up later for cheaper once the hype dies down just to have a nifty looking mini ps classic.
I wonder if the UK PS Classic will actually support 50Hz output for those games that use it.
I'm guessing not.
(Our TVs and major consoles with media functions still support it for legacy reasons even though everything new has switched to 60Hz, or 24Hz when playing a standard Blu-ray. Like, I pop a PAL spec Red Dwarf DVD in my Xbox One and the console and the TV automatically switch to 50Hz mode for it, so no juddering from mismatched frames.)
Remember those tiny little Arcade Classics Walmart's been putting out? They've quietly gotten up to 12 of them, including a Fix-It-Felix Jr. (the faux-classic game from Wreck-It-Ralph).
I get that the point of those things is to have the cute little plastic cabinet thing sitting around, but man, those games are not worth (individually) $15-$20 to play.
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to play those games on that small of a screen.
Judging by my local walmart, people aren't paying $300 to play a few classic arcade games on the full-size units they have now, either. Well, half-size or whatever they are. They look cool but $300 for at best 5 games per unit? Ridiculous.
I never had a Playstation but judging from the reactions to the PS Classic it would be better to just get copies of the PS1 games and play them on my wife's PS2.
or on a ps3, or on a psp, or on a Vita, or PS TV, or the pc/xbox/nintendo ports... there are so many better ways to play PS1 games legally.
If you can't get the original games, the vita imo is hands down a great way to play it. I have so many awesome ps1 jrpgs on there. It's basically my ps1 portable at this point. It even has some ps1 imports you can buy for it that we never got in the US.
It's not so much that it's running at 50Hz (despite the juddering issue) as it is that it's running 17% slower than originally intended.
Yeah a lot of PAL conversions were just straight up lazy. Something like Sonic 2 is more how you do it, rescale the game speed for 50 hz. Instead of even the music slowing down in Sonic 1.
Yeah. Considering the age of the games, the arcade machines are kind of dumb. If they had hundreds of ROMs, it would be cool.
Indeed they are.
Okay, there were less than 200 Neo Geo games, and you could only put a handful in an MVS at once, but if you had the back open, and a big enough box next to it...
I'm actually surprised they even put 16GB of storage on it, compared to the other minis. I guess maybe 8GB wasn't going to be enough.
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Initial analysis from some of the people cracking open the PS Classic seems to indicate that a simple "connect the PS Classic to the PC" option might not be possible, and that a physical mod may be required for hacking/modding. But, of course, things are still quite early!
Feeling really glad I cancelled my preorder now. Can't belive Sony screwed this up. Glad those early reviews came out. I think I'd be pretty unhappy with spending $100 on this thing.
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Wait what? They removed any way to connect it to the PC but left in the boot menu by connecting a keyboard and pressing esc...?
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Despite those initial reports, don't count anything out yet. I see a lot of people in the community I'm in refer to this tweet from Gamespot's Peter Brown from 2 years ago:
Edit: Also interesting, Sony Music Entertainment did a DMCA takedown on this guy taking apart and poking around on the Playstation Classic. He's someone from the hakchi community and seems confused about the takedown because he says there was no music in it whatsoever. I did watch a little bit of it before it got the takedown and didn't notice any music, but I wasn't about to watch an hour and a half of stuff that I didn't have the capacity to understand.
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The dude in that video above made the same observation of them that I saw watching his video. In a vacuum you will probably just write it off as the game being old and not noticing much. But if you have the original NTSC version and play them about the same time you'll notice the difference.
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It's a very bad looking and running way of playing PS1 games, that doesn't really deserve to be rewarded with a purchase.
Yeah, I'm not paying that much to play those games on that small of a screen.
Judging by my local walmart, people aren't paying $300 to play a few classic arcade games on the full-size units they have now, either. Well, half-size or whatever they are. They look cool but $300 for at best 5 games per unit? Ridiculous.
I never had a Playstation but judging from the reactions to the PS Classic it would be better to just get copies of the PS1 games and play them on my wife's PS2.
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or on a ps3, or on a psp, or on a Vita, or PS TV, or the pc/xbox/nintendo ports... there are so many better ways to play PS1 games legally.
Red Dwarf was originally created and meant to be played back at 50Hz.
Tekken 3 was not.
It's not so much that it's running at 50Hz (despite the juddering issue) as it is that it's running 17% slower than originally intended.
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Yep, that's why I said that it probably would be fine in a vacuum. His video helped me feel better about cancelling my pre-order of the unit. I'll probably pick one up later for cheaper once the hype dies down just to have a nifty looking mini ps classic.
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I'm guessing not.
(Our TVs and major consoles with media functions still support it for legacy reasons even though everything new has switched to 60Hz, or 24Hz when playing a standard Blu-ray. Like, I pop a PAL spec Red Dwarf DVD in my Xbox One and the console and the TV automatically switch to 50Hz mode for it, so no juddering from mismatched frames.)
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If you can't get the original games, the vita imo is hands down a great way to play it. I have so many awesome ps1 jrpgs on there. It's basically my ps1 portable at this point. It even has some ps1 imports you can buy for it that we never got in the US.
Yeah a lot of PAL conversions were just straight up lazy. Something like Sonic 2 is more how you do it, rescale the game speed for 50 hz. Instead of even the music slowing down in Sonic 1.
Indeed they are.
He has some good suggestions. I already have most of what he recommended.
It's really complicated to do!
Oh good grief, that's hilarious
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Update: Multiple other people in the Discord channel I'm in are reporting this isn't working for them. *shrug*
Maybe you have to plug it into port 2 so that Psycho Mantis can't see you're doing it.
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One guy in chat just said he went through 5 keyboards before his brother handed him a G.Skill mechanical keyboard that worked.
Have the arcade machines been hacked yet?
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I think you're thinking of golden tee... Neo Turf is an AVS/MVS game.
LMAO that shit is funny.
Return it and get a vita and load that up with PS1 games that you might actually want to play.
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How half assed is this thing anyway?
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We'll see!
Edit: Also interesting, Sony Music Entertainment did a DMCA takedown on this guy taking apart and poking around on the Playstation Classic. He's someone from the hakchi community and seems confused about the takedown because he says there was no music in it whatsoever. I did watch a little bit of it before it got the takedown and didn't notice any music, but I wasn't about to watch an hour and a half of stuff that I didn't have the capacity to understand.
PLAYSTATION CLASSIC DATAMINE SEEMS TO REVEAL 36 REJECTED GAMES
There's speculation in the article that these games are still on the system, but I find this highly unlikely.
Now that list makes me want to buy a PlayStation Classic.
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Depends on what you consider the first half. Street Fighter Alpha 3 was released in December 98 in Japan and April 99 in the US.
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