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[Dragalia Lost] Alliance vs Dragon Trials

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    The reddit discord is civilization for this event. (109)

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    What is this I don't even.
  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Question: I got 3 5-star cards in my last re-roll attempt. The thing is, 2 of them are Wyrmprints, and the other is a dragon. Should I be looking for characters/dragons only?

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Question: I got 3 5-star cards in my last re-roll attempt. The thing is, 2 of them are Wyrmprints, and the other is a dragon. Should I be looking for characters/dragons only?

    Eh, 4*s are fine - you ultimately need a spread across the elements so you won't be able to consistently field 5*s for a good while.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    oh I must have revealed what the last event endeavor is by beating expert, let's see here "clear an extra mode raid battle in under 1 minute" haha no thanks

    This existing makes me think this will be a recurring event

    Given that the gold medal rewards keep going up into the thousands, I think that you might be right.
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Question: I got 3 5-star cards in my last re-roll attempt. The thing is, 2 of them are Wyrmprints, and the other is a dragon. Should I be looking for characters/dragons only?

    What did you pull? I settled on a reroll with only a single 5* (a wyrmprint), and my progress hasn't felt hampered. Since then I've had some lucky rolls though.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Doing Expert now. I may have replaced a 4* in my team with Ezelith to hit 7500 Might, but I see other people doing the same and the rest of my team is geared Water so I'm not too conflicted about it now that I can get my hands on gold medals.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Doing Expert now. I may have replaced a 4* in my team with Ezelith to hit 7500 Might, but I see other people doing the same and the rest of my team is geared Water so I'm not too conflicted about it now that I can get my hands on gold medals.

    People are fucking idiots and neutral element stuff is only effectively worth 60% might, the game just does a bad job of surfacing this stuff and reinforces poor decisions

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    The game could blare that information on the front page and people would still only care about Might because it's an easy number to judge other people and wave epeen around.

    Done several Experts now and haven't failed any of them, with most attempts having my team at near full health because I know to bank skills to avoid AoE's. The times I do get hit is when AI is being dundersticks and staying in purple volcano explosions.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    It hardly matters though. He has more than enough to be properly geared for the level even without one water unit. He's just trying to get the events to fire when the queue is full of brainlets that think that people need might scores high enough to practically solo the event.

    A synergistic co-ability will also more than make up for the loss of combat efficiency from a single dumb ai unit. For example, my fire team will include someone with a *crit rate Co ability because it will let my Mikoto hit some stupid high crit rate. For lack of a fire unit, that's going to be either a water or wind unit. That crit rate boost will be far more valuable to me than anything that the bot would have done on its own.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    After falling in love with katana due to Musashi, I want Mikoto so bad

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I feel like I'm being super clever with my abilities to invincible through almost every aoe thing and I often still end up with dead AI. I even run into the wall in the safe zone during volcanoes to drag the AI into the safe area.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    These people have 9K Might and full water teams but they still can't seem to figure out saving skills for AoE's and end up on the floor.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    the game doesn't point out that you get iframes from skills and there's no in-game way to tell people about it so I'm not surprised it's Secret Tech

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    the game doesn't point out that you get iframes from skills and there's no in-game way to tell people about it so I'm not surprised it's Secret Tech

    This and being able to tell the AI to aim at a part are the main things to know for this (although AI aim is mainly just to kill the tail even a second faster, it's not going to do much on the legs)

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    the game doesn't point out that you get iframes from skills and there's no in-game way to tell people about it so I'm not surprised it's Secret Tech

    This and being able to tell the AI to aim at a part are the main things to know for this (although AI aim is mainly just to kill the tail even a second faster, it's not going to do much on the legs)

    There's some back and forth on the clicking one, it's not confirmed just yet because people are saying AI will attack what you're attacking, which is leading to false positives.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Kept seeing this pop up, so I made a quick comparison

    Tier 1 Level 70 4* Weapon
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    Tier 3 Level 20 3* Weapon (Matched with correct Element)
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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    how do you tell the AI to attack something? I've seen teammates pop up a slightly garbled looking "tailAttack this" message a few times but I don't know where that option is

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    how do you tell the AI to attack something? I've seen teammates pop up a slightly garbled looking "tailAttack this" message a few times but I don't know where that option is

    That doesn't direct AI, it's just meant to tell other players what to target

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    how do you tell the AI to attack something? I've seen teammates pop up a slightly garbled looking "tailAttack this" message a few times but I don't know where that option is

    To my knowledge, that's a scripted message that automatically pops up if you fail to kill the tail before the first tailspin. IMO seeing it is a shamfur dispray and your teammates should commit sudoku.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    if you click on the smaller part lifebar under the main one, it will send that message and also place an arrow pointing at it that the rest can see
    I feel like I'm being super clever with my abilities to invincible through almost every aoe thing and I often still end up with dead AI. I even run into the wall in the safe zone during volcanoes to drag the AI into the safe area.

    You can destroy the volcanoes

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    It's much easier for me to MLB a 4* T1 weapon than it is to make a 3* elemental weapon.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    I just dinged 6k might. I want to transition to a 3* water katana, but I'm lacking granite and water orbs. I'll be scouring this blazon summon for them.

    Edit :
    If you hate the backwards force attack aiming as much as I do, please send them feedback to give us an option to invert it.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    if you click on the smaller part lifebar under the main one, it will send that message and also place an arrow pointing at it that the rest can see
    I feel like I'm being super clever with my abilities to invincible through almost every aoe thing and I often still end up with dead AI. I even run into the wall in the safe zone during volcanoes to drag the AI into the safe area.

    You can destroy the volcanoes

    Yes, you have to destroy at least one to create a safe zone. If the AI is still standing in the death zone when it goes off they die though so to be safe I drag them to a safe zone by running into the wall.

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  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    So whatcha think the most efficient use of funbucks is? I'm looking at the daily discounted pull...

  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    I'm leaning towards the week-long double daily rewards booster. It's fun pulling the gacha lever but I don't think that's going to be the weak link in account progression.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I'm leaning towards the week-long double daily rewards booster. It's fun pulling the gacha lever but I don't think that's going to be the weak link in account progression.

    I try to make it a point to not buy anything I can farm on my own given enough time.

    This getherwing shortage is really showing up now with the raid going. Too many hosts, not enough joiners.

  • TulabelleTulabelle Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Madican wrote: »
    It's much easier for me to MLB a 4* T1 weapon than it is to make a 3* elemental weapon.

    It’s tough right? You lose a skill by using a T1 weapon, but if you aren’t creating T3 elementals for every element you lose that anyway.

    I’ve been trying to decide which way to go, but I did create a T3 3* water spear and it is a lot easier than creating a T2 4* weapon at this stage of the game.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    EX clear~

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    if you click on the smaller part lifebar under the main one, it will send that message and also place an arrow pointing at it that the rest can see
    I feel like I'm being super clever with my abilities to invincible through almost every aoe thing and I often still end up with dead AI. I even run into the wall in the safe zone during volcanoes to drag the AI into the safe area.

    You can destroy the volcanoes

    Yes, you have to destroy at least one to create a safe zone. If the AI is still standing in the death zone when it goes off they die though so to be safe I drag them to a safe zone by running into the wall.

    You also really want to kill those volcanoes because they give a ton of dragon power. The best groups I've been in kill 3-4 just for the dragon charge.

    What is this I don't even.
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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Madican wrote: »
    I'm leaning towards the week-long double daily rewards booster. It's fun pulling the gacha lever but I don't think that's going to be the weak link in account progression.

    I try to make it a point to not buy anything I can farm on my own given enough time.

    This getherwing shortage is really showing up now with the raid going. Too many hosts, not enough joiners.

    I'm really busy and have to work overtime during the week a lot. I don't have the luxury of farming forever. Also, eventually we're going to start plataeuing out on player level and we won't effectively have infinite stamina anymore. We won't be able to just farm ad-infinitum anymore.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    according to those familiar with cygames, eventually they say fuck it and start handing out stamina refresh items at an obscene rate

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    according to those familiar with cygames, eventually they say fuck it and start handing out stamina refresh items at an obscene rate

    Eventually, sure, but GBF is different in that a lot of its stuff outside raids is done solo. Here, multiplayer is the focus because it increases drop odds so it's always better to do multiplayer for pretty much everything when farming. So when there's issues being able to co-op in a game that is heavily based around it early on, then something needs to be done before people start leaving. It has to survive long enough to get to the point where those refresh items are being given out like candy.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    how does that factor in to spending on gacha vs rewards boost

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    how does that factor in to spending on gacha vs rewards boost

    Rewards boosts just double what you get from those daily blue chests in each of the things, so if you'd get 8 gold crystals for completing Avenue to Power Expert you'd instead get 16. Ideally we want to do these daily and co-op all of them for better drops, especially with how we're limited on stamina so we can't farm infinitely for resources. So it makes the rewards booster something that's not really necessary, because you're paying real money for something you were going to get anyway. And really, what are an extra eight gold crystals going to get you? Maybe two levels for a 40+ unit? If that's worth the money then by all means, I just personally don't think paying money for anything farmable is a good idea.

  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Though if stamina were infinite, wouldn’t it be even worse of a purchase since you actually could farm infinitely for resources

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    I've discovered an alternate method to play co-op that works 95% of the time, so I guess tablet is just for relaxing solo farming and story now.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Celliara's story bits in castle are pretty good. Especially a certain graphic for the first.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    GBF's equivalent of Getherwings regenerates at a rate of 1 per 10 minutes so I have no idea what the fuck they're doing here necessarily

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    yeah 1 per hour and everything worth doing takes 2 seems kind of ridiculous when there's such a co-op focus to the game

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  • TulabelleTulabelle Registered User regular
    I saw someone in Reddit with the idea that hosting using stamina should earn you getherwings. Seemed like a pretty good idea to me. Maybe 1 wing per 10 or 15 or more stamina that way they aren’t infinite and people will swap between hosting and joining to make it easier to find groups.

  • LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    i just saw the refresh rate on getherwings and that's... what the actual fuck.
    i thought stamina was a bit low, but the level-ups have been taking care of that so far.

    the getherwing situation is (dragalia nope.)
    your rates are bad, and you should feel bad.

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