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There is no such thing as a moral or immoral [book] thread

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I've tried so many times to get my kids into Harry Potter but it just isn't happening.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I've tried so many times to get my kids into Harry Potter but it just isn't happening.

    How bout Terry Pratchett

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    My older two read on their own now but I've still got a chance with Owen

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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    Harry Potter could still come to them later. I didn't read HP till my senior year of HS.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I still have never read a Harry Potter book.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    The first one is boring and Harry isn’t really a fully developed character. Best example of an empty vessel for the reader to pour themselves into that I’ve ever seen.

    I didn’t read the others.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    When I was in fourth grade, I had a science teacher who had just recently been teaching in England and he brought back a couple of the Harry Potter books and if we were good throughout the lesson he would read us a chapter or two.

    Gotta learn Newton's Laws of Motion before you get to hear about Wingardium Leviosa.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Much like art, you have to know the rules before you can break em

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I read the first three Harry Potter books years ago and decided I didn't feel like reading any more.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Finished up The Death of Bees by Lisa O'Donnell. It was really good. Dark, I mean it's about 2 sisters raised in abuse and neglect, but it's also funny and features a lot of love.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    I've just started reading Lost to Time: Unforgettable Stories That History Forgot by Martin W. Sandler. Each chapter is a short introduction into a lesser-known historical figure or event, and I suspect it's going to expand my To Read list considerably. Anyway, I just wanted to share this very important quote from the second chapter about the pre-Columbian city of Cahokia:
    When the glaciers melted, an eight-mile-wide torrent of water rushed southwest, creating the Mississippi, Illinois, and Missouri Rivers. When these waters receded, the vast American Bottom was exposed.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Oh hell yes. Penguin is going to start publishing in the dwarsliggers format in the US. These are full books that are very small and you open them up in landscape and flip the pages up as you read. They have a box set of John Green's books as a test. Give me all the weird different book formats!

    I want to get some to see if reluctant readers who might be intimidated by a normal sized book find these more interesting. I don't see them being very sturdy though for longer term library use due to the very thin paper used.

    I can make tiny, in scale, spine labels!

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    @Tynic my fellow Neal love/hater. I'm reading Seveneves. Am I going to hate myself/Neal by the end? So far it's pretty good? Just a little past
    Them saving the Russian and the "not Elon Musk" character heading off to go catch an ice ball
    As far as sci-fi about long term space travel and encroaching world doom are concerned it does make a really interesting contrast with the Dark Forest trilogy as well as The Wanderers (which is by Meg Howrey and you should go read it for an awesome story about the psychology of space travel, along with other more relatable themes, super super good book, but not really because of the story so much as the themes and character exploration)

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    @Tynic my fellow Neal love/hater. I'm reading Seveneves. Am I going to hate myself/Neal by the end? So far it's pretty good? Just a little past
    Them saving the Russian and the "not Elon Musk" character heading off to go catch an ice ball

    honestly that's pretty close to where I stopped so I dunno - if you don't hate it yet (I did) then you might be fine. Though people have told me it gets worse.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    This 'Angelmaker' by Nick Harkaway is pretty fun! Is his stuff usually this horny? Like the first third wasn't very horny but then all of a sudden we're suckin on toes and grinding on fruit and buildin cast iron railroad fuck beds

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    tynic wrote: »
    Tynic my fellow Neal love/hater. I'm reading Seveneves. Am I going to hate myself/Neal by the end? So far it's pretty good? Just a little past
    Them saving the Russian and the "not Elon Musk" character heading off to go catch an ice ball

    honestly that's pretty close to where I stopped so I dunno - if you don't hate it yet (I did) then you might be fine. Though people have told me it gets worse.

    Was it Neal writing women, specifically having a roboticist or what put you off? I go to you just because we have agreed thoroughly in the past, not at all trying to argue against you putting the book down. I also just enjoy rants.
    Thinking for two seconds it is striking me that
    They had the roboticists issue solved by her suddenly appearing male love interest, and we are also totally setting up the Bill Nye character to be a savior role.
    I think I'm mostly enjoying the "kinda the Martian like problem->solution" engineering but with something that at least more resembles human characters than what Weir was doing.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Tynic my fellow Neal love/hater. I'm reading Seveneves. Am I going to hate myself/Neal by the end? So far it's pretty good? Just a little past
    Them saving the Russian and the "not Elon Musk" character heading off to go catch an ice ball

    honestly that's pretty close to where I stopped so I dunno - if you don't hate it yet (I did) then you might be fine. Though people have told me it gets worse.

    Was it Neal writing women, specifically having a roboticist or what put you off? I go to you just because we have agreed thoroughly in the past, not at all trying to argue against you putting the book down. I also just enjoy rants.
    Thinking for two seconds it is striking me that
    They had the roboticists issue solved by her suddenly appearing male love interest, and we are also totally setting up the Bill Nye character to be a savior role.
    I think I'm mostly enjoying the "kinda the Martian like problem->solution" engineering but with something that at least more resembles human characters than what Weir was doing.
    He's not even the Bill Nye character, he's the Neil DeGrasse Tyson character, which is infinitely worse.

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    True, and true, I just didn't spend the time for the appropriate parallel person.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This 'Angelmaker' by Nick Harkaway is pretty fun! Is his stuff usually this horny? Like the first third wasn't very horny but then all of a sudden we're suckin on toes and grinding on fruit and buildin cast iron railroad fuck beds

    Not usually that horny, no. That's actually one of his weakest books imo, so if you're enjoying it you're in for a TREAT with his other stuff.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2018
    tynic wrote: »
    Tynic my fellow Neal love/hater. I'm reading Seveneves. Am I going to hate myself/Neal by the end? So far it's pretty good? Just a little past
    Them saving the Russian and the "not Elon Musk" character heading off to go catch an ice ball

    honestly that's pretty close to where I stopped so I dunno - if you don't hate it yet (I did) then you might be fine. Though people have told me it gets worse.

    Was it Neal writing women, specifically having a roboticist or what put you off? I go to you just because we have agreed thoroughly in the past, not at all trying to argue against you putting the book down. I also just enjoy rants.
    Thinking for two seconds it is striking me that
    They had the roboticists issue solved by her suddenly appearing male love interest, and we are also totally setting up the Bill Nye character to be a savior role.
    I think I'm mostly enjoying the "kinda the Martian like problem->solution" engineering but with something that at least more resembles human characters than what Weir was doing.

    the robotics was the least annoying part.

    https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/39151212#Comment_39151212

    https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/39151837/#Comment_39151837

    https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/39151871/#Comment_39151871

    Honestly I'm still struggling to recover from the not-NDT nerd sex. But I think fundamentally the problem is the writing is just bad. The characters are wafer thin, the prose is perfunctory and sloppy and has none of the cheerfully esoteric nerdery of his best stuff.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The comparison with The Martian is pretty apt; Seveneves reads like a lot of the more pedestrian golden-age SF (just a lot longer), where people are mostly just pieces that move around ideas. And I can usually enjoy that stuff for what it is. I think it's a combination of factors - that kind of clunky writing PLUS all of Stephenson's worst tendencies turned up to about 11, coming so soon after I'd written him off for falling up his own libertarian butthole - which made it so grating for me.

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    SnowbearSnowbear Registered User regular
    I have been enjoying The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin. But boy does that book start rough and only get rougher. I appreciate what she doing with her Fulcrum characters

    I do have a question though
    While the perspective clearly changes characters from chapter to chapter, are they also changing time periods? Essun's chapters constantly reference the calamity that the book starts with. But Syenite ones make no mention of it. Which has been leading me to think that
    the person who caused it may be Alabaster?

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Brandon sAnderson is coming to my local b and n!

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Brandon Anderson is coming to my local b and n!

    The football player or Brandon Sanderson?

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Snowbear wrote: »
    I have been enjoying The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin. But boy does that book start rough and only get rougher. I appreciate what she doing with her Fulcrum characters

    I do have a question though
    While the perspective clearly changes characters from chapter to chapter, are they also changing time periods? Essun's chapters constantly reference the calamity that the book starts with. But Syenite ones make no mention of it. Which has been leading me to think that
    the person who caused it may be Alabaster?

    Keep reading, all will be made clear.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Brandon Anderson is coming to my local b and n!

    The football player or Brandon Sanderson?

    The magic guy

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Snowbear wrote: »
    I have been enjoying The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin. But boy does that book start rough and only get rougher. I appreciate what she doing with her Fulcrum characters

    I do have a question though
    While the perspective clearly changes characters from chapter to chapter, are they also changing time periods? Essun's chapters constantly reference the calamity that the book starts with. But Syenite ones make no mention of it. Which has been leading me to think that
    the person who caused it may be Alabaster?

    First spoiler
    Yeah, typically the different characters chapters are happening in different time periods.

    Second spoiler
    not telling

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Tiny book update: I got that set of four John Green books. I’ve never actually read any of his books so tried one to see how the vertical format works.

    It usually takes me about two days of reading in downtime at work to read an average YA novel. I read Paper Towns all today so I think the format made it faster for me?

    More importantly, multiple students were interested in the crazy shaped book I was reading at the circulation desk.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    I'm fascinated by those! Does the onion paper feel like an old bible? Can you really comfortably read it with one hand?

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    I'm fascinated by those! Does the onion paper feel like an old bible? Can you really comfortably read it with one hand?

    Yes and yes though turning the pages reliably with one hand takes practice.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Paper Towns is probably the best written novel that I hate.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This 'Angelmaker' by Nick Harkaway is pretty fun! Is his stuff usually this horny? Like the first third wasn't very horny but then all of a sudden we're suckin on toes and grinding on fruit and buildin cast iron railroad fuck beds

    Not usually that horny, no. That's actually one of his weakest books imo, so if you're enjoying it you're in for a TREAT with his other stuff.

    Starting in on Gnomon and you seem quite correct, this one is much more attention demanding

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Finished Three Body Problem

    That was certainly interesting. Kind of reminded me of Cryptonomicon with it going back and forth between historical fiction and the "present" and how they tie together. Had some neat scifi concepts.

    Felt like it kind of ended abruptly, but that may be a factor of how I read it sporadically. It didn't really grip me like I thought it would. Still interested in the sequels, but I'll probably read something else first.

    Oh shit, The Monster Baru Cormorant is out, I totally forgot. Well, I know what I'm reading next

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I started the Book of the New Sun

    golly I am not in love with how women are used in this

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    pezgenpezgen Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This 'Angelmaker' by Nick Harkaway is pretty fun! Is his stuff usually this horny? Like the first third wasn't very horny but then all of a sudden we're suckin on toes and grinding on fruit and buildin cast iron railroad fuck beds

    Not usually that horny, no. That's actually one of his weakest books imo, so if you're enjoying it you're in for a TREAT with his other stuff.

    Starting in on Gnomon and you seem quite correct, this one is much more attention demanding

    I am nearing the end of Gnomon. It has taken me a while, and I really wish I had saved it for time when I could read big chunks at once, and not just short bursts every night. I think it would really reward being able to fully concentrate on it over a weekend or a few days of doing little else.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    I started the Book of the New Sun

    golly I am not in love with how women are used in this

    Everyone goes on about how great those books are but I have never gotten more than halfway through the first one (and I've tried several times) without being totally bored by how up its own ass the book is.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I'm still into it for now but I suspect it's gonna join Kingkiller on the list of books I describe as "pretty good buuuuuuuuuut"

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    WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    Is Tor books having some sort of spat with Amazon? There's a new release I want (The Monster Baru Cormorant) that seems to only be available in hardcover with no Kindle option (not even pre-order)

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    MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    Is Tor books having some sort of spat with Amazon? There's a new release I want (The Monster Baru Cormorant) that seems to only be available in hardcover with no Kindle option (not even pre-order)

    Might be regional? It looks like I can buy the Kindle edition for $15 (in the US store).

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Finished Three Body Problem

    That was certainly interesting. Kind of reminded me of Cryptonomicon with it going back and forth between historical fiction and the "present" and how they tie together. Had some neat scifi concepts.

    Felt like it kind of ended abruptly, but that may be a factor of how I read it sporadically. It didn't really grip me like I thought it would. Still interested in the sequels, but I'll probably read something else first.

    Oh shit, The Monster Baru Cormorant is out, I totally forgot. Well, I know what I'm reading next

    Oh right I'm allowed to talk about it now. It's good!

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