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We're playing another COIN game and it's [Cuba Libre]

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    @Hedgethorn You would need to sweep 4 troops into Camaguey if you wanted to destroy both bases. You have one troop, bringing in 4 troops takes you to 5. You need 5 attacks to remove the 3 Guerrillas and then remove the 2 bases.

    If you do send 4 troops, by my math that will leave you with only 3 pieces in Camaguey City, tying you with Oreo's 3 pieces there. This means you will no longer control it for the redeploy phase.

    I think my math is right here but please double check me.

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    Shoot, forgot that Police can sweep but not fight in the provinces.

    I'll sweep in a 4th troop to take out the last base.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    March two guerrillas from Mantanzas into La Habana. Resources to 3.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    New card and propaganda to follow.

  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    March two guerrillas from Mantanzas into La Habana. Resources to 3.

    "911, we need some police in La Habana, pronto"

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 8
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    Resources
    Government: 5
    Syndicate: 10
    26July: 3
    Directorio: 5

    Victory Conditions
    Government Support: 12
    Syndicate Open Casinos: 4
    26July Bases + Opposition: 6
    Directorio Pop + Bases: 7

    admanb on
  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    No victory.

    Resources Phase
    Government: 6 (ECs) + 12 (Aid) = 18
    26July: 3
    Directorio: 3
    Syndicate: 1 (cities) + 8 (casinos) = 9

    No skim. @A Half Eaten Oreo has two cash to deposit.

    Support Phase
    US Alliance to Embargoed, Aid to 4.

    @Hedgethorn for Civic Action.
    I can't agitate anything.
    @Inquisitor for a free rally.

    Redeploy Phase
    @Hedgethorn must redeploy out of the provinces and may then redeploy at will.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    I don’t think government should have control in Camaguey City @admanb

    Now to mull over where I rally

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    The casino is closed, so they do.

    (I don't set control -- the VASSAL module does that automatically.)

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 8
    Oho! This game and it’s tricksy mechanics.

    So @admanb I could build a base in Oriente and get into a very costly struggle with you there for control. I think ultimately this leads to neither of us winning and either syndicate taking it on 4th prop or government in final scoring.

    Instead, I am thinking of building my base in Mantanzas, and pushing east to mulch up some casinos. The large troop presence in Oriente will shift East with time. But in the meantime if we could have a ceasefire there (and elsewhere perhaps?) I am happy to build my base not in Oriente.

    I was really hoping for a cheeky second prop round win but now I must think longer term.

    Inquisitor on
  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    edited November 8
    Syndicate cashes in both cash stacks left for 12 resources right? Can't build since Pinar is already full.

    NVM missed that line in the update.

    A Half Eaten Oreo on
  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 8
    Sounds good to me. Until final propaganda I'm not motivated to fight for control and you've already got a Subvert province in Las Villas. I'll certainly leave any base in Mantanzas alone.

    admanb on
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Sounds good to me. Until final propaganda I'm not motivated to fight for control and you've already got a Subvert province in Las Villas. I'll certainly leave any base in Mantanzas alone.

    Awesome, I’ll use my free rally to place a base there then.

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited November 9
    Aid was 14, not 12, so government should earn 20 resources.

    Hedgethorn on
  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    Civic Action in Camaguey Province. Spend 8 resources to move it up to Active Support.

    With the corrected aid number (see above), that should leave me with 17 resources.

    Redeploy
    - Move one police from the industrial EC by Las Villas to the sugercane EC by Oriente.
    - Remove all troops (8 total) from La Habana and Camaguey Province. Put 5 in Havana, 2 in Camaguey City, and 1 in Santiago de Cuba.

    @admanb for the next card, then @A Half Eaten Oreo will be first up. (Oreo, you should take the event and get 9 resources.)

  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Civic Action in Camaguey Province. Spend 8 resources to move it up to Active Support.

    With the corrected aid number (see above), that should leave me with 17 resources.

    Redeploy
    - Move one police from the industrial EC by Las Villas to the sugercane EC by Oriente.
    - Remove all troops (8 total) from La Habana and Camaguey Province. Put 5 in Havana, 2 in Camaguey City, and 1 in Santiago de Cuba.

    @admanb for the next card, then @A Half Eaten Oreo will be first up. (Oreo, you should take the event and get 9 resources.)

    I think I get kidnapped if I take the event, depends on card, but current plan is something + bribe 26July

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Aid was 14, not 12, so government should earn 20 resources.

    Heh. I actually gave them 14 and typed 12 for... reasons.

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Civic Action in Camaguey Province. Spend 8 resources to move it up to Active Support.

    With the corrected aid number (see above), that should leave me with 17 resources.

    Redeploy
    - Move one police from the industrial EC by Las Villas to the sugercane EC by Oriente.
    - Remove all troops (8 total) from La Habana and Camaguey Province. Put 5 in Havana, 2 in Camaguey City, and 1 in Santiago de Cuba.

    @admanb for the next card, then @A Half Eaten Oreo will be first up. (Oreo, you should take the event and get 9 resources.)

    I think I get kidnapped if I take the event, depends on card, but current plan is something + bribe 26July

    I'm not sure the 9 resource gain for me is quite worth giving up an action -- that's passing up an opportunity to raise support to gain just two future actions. But you might be able to convince me to take the event with a very modest bribe of 3 resources, netting you 6 resources for not doing anything. (All this contingent on the next card, of course.)

  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Civic Action in Camaguey Province. Spend 8 resources to move it up to Active Support.

    With the corrected aid number (see above), that should leave me with 17 resources.

    Redeploy
    - Move one police from the industrial EC by Las Villas to the sugercane EC by Oriente.
    - Remove all troops (8 total) from La Habana and Camaguey Province. Put 5 in Havana, 2 in Camaguey City, and 1 in Santiago de Cuba.

    @admanb for the next card, then @A Half Eaten Oreo will be first up. (Oreo, you should take the event and get 9 resources.)

    I think I get kidnapped if I take the event, depends on card, but current plan is something + bribe 26July

    I'm not sure the 9 resource gain for me is quite worth giving up an action -- that's passing up an opportunity to raise support to gain just two future actions. But you might be able to convince me to take the event with a very modest bribe of 3 resources, netting you 6 resources for not doing anything. (All this contingent on the next card, of course.)

    Let's see the next card, but consider the Syndicate tempted.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
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    Resources
    Government: 17
    Syndicate: 31
    26July: 6
    Directorio: 8

    Victory Conditions
    Government Support: 14
    Syndicate Open Casinos: 7
    26July Bases + Opposition: 6
    Directorio Pop + Bases: 8


    @A Half Eaten Oreo

  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    Before we forget:
    Bribe away both 26July Guerilla in La Habana.

    Construct
    A closed Casino in Camaguey City
    A closed Casino in Santiago de Cuba.

    @Hedgethorn eligible. 3 resources are yours if you take the event.

    Resources down to 18 (15 if the government takes the bribe).

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited November 9
    Play the event, receiving 3 resources from Oreo to do so.

    Syndicate Resources +6 (goes to 24)
    Government +12 (goes to 29)

    @admanb

    Hedgethorn on
  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Syndicate only goes to 21, right? Since they paid 3 to the government before gaining 6.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
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    Resources
    Government: 29
    Syndicate: 21
    26July: 6
    Directorio: 8

    Victory Conditions
    Government Support: 14
    Syndicate Open Casinos: 7
    26July Bases + Opposition: 6
    Directorio Pop + Bases: 8

    @Inquisitor

  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    edited November 12
    admanb wrote: »
    Syndicate only goes to 21, right? Since they paid 3 to the government before gaining 6.

    It would be 15 after the bribe then +9 from the event to 24, @Hedgethorn 's math just took the 3 from the event so 18+6 instead. Either way Syndicate resources should be 24.

    A Half Eaten Oreo on
    Hedgethorn
  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Syndicate only goes to 21, right? Since they paid 3 to the government before gaining 6.

    It would be 15 after the bribe then +9 from the event to 24, @Hedgethorn 's math just took the 3 from the event so 18+6 instead. Either way Syndicate resources should be 24.

    Yeah, 18 - 3 + 9 = 18 + 6 = 24. Sorry for any confusion.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Rally

    In Mantanzas: Placing 2 guerrillas
    In Camaguey: Placing 1 guerrilla
    In La Habana: Placing 1 guerrilla

    Subvert

    In Las Villas, gaining 2 resources.

    Net 1 Resource loss.

    @admanb for next action

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    March three guerrillas from Sierra Maestra to Santiago De Cuba. They stay underground due to El Che.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
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    Resources
    Government: 29
    Syndicate: 24
    26July: 5
    Directorio: 7

    Victory Conditions
    Government Support: 14
    Syndicate Open Casinos: 7
    26July Bases + Opposition: 6
    Directorio Pop + Bases: 8

    @A Half Eaten Oreo

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    Pretty sure it's my turn, not Oreo's. All of this is terrible and all my actions cost way too much money.

    Sweep in Santiago de Cuba, activating all guerrillas there.
    Sweep in La Habana, moving four troops from Havana to La Habana and then activating all guerrillas there.
    Resources = 21
    @A Half Eaten Oreo for a Limited Op.

  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    A few “in a city” DR and 26July cards. From both games it seems that’s not a super likely situation.

    Not a fan of Op without SA, but passing isn’t accomplishing much.

    Construct in Santiago de Cuba.

    Resources down to 19.

    @Inquisitor eligible
    @admanb card

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Sorry for the long delays. I don't have a good excuse, I've just been really distracted recently. I'll try to get back in the swing of things.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Oh hey look at this.

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    Resources
    Government: 21
    Syndicate: 19
    26July: 5
    Directorio: 7

    Victory Conditions
    Government Support: 14
    Syndicate Open Casinos: 7
    26July Bases + Opposition: 6
    Directorio Pop + Bases: 8

    @Inquisitor

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited November 19
    Boo to early propaganda rounds!

    Hedgethorn on
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Yeah geeze, this is too soon.

    Well, let's get rid of that government control in Camaguey Province

    Attack + Ambush in Camaguey Province removing 2 police cubes and adding 1 Guerrilla there. Costs 1 resource and activates 1 Guerilla there.

    Follow up to @admanb

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    This is at least the second, if not the third, time this game that I've swept to reveal guerrillas and immediately flipped a propaganda card that will rehide those very rebels. What a waste of precious resources!

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Rally for a base in Santiago De Cuba.

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
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    Resources
    Government: 21
    Syndicate: 19
    26July: 4
    Directorio: 7

    Victory Conditions
    Government Support: 14
    Syndicate Open Casinos: 7
    26July Bases + Opposition: 6
    Directorio Pop + Bases: 9

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Resources Phase
    Government: +8 ECs +4 Aid = +12
    26July: +4
    Directorio: +5
    Syndicate: +14 (casinos) +1 (cities) = +15

    Government skims four from casinos.

    No cash to remove.

    Support Phase
    Aid goes to zero.

    @Hedgethorn can civic action.

    I still don't control anything to agitate.

    @Inquisitor gets a free rally.

    Redeploy Phase
    Government must redeploy troops out of La Habana, everything else may redeploy.

  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    Civic action in Havana and Camaguey City. Costs 8, both up to active support.

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