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    ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    you can and WILL be blamed

    this is discrimination and I wont stand for it.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    I'm trying to figure out why I did more DPS on G'huun himself than Zau did when we did about the same on the gibbering horrors
    mongoose bite might be a bad talent for this fight? that's all I got

    hmm maybe you were out of melee range a lot? seems like I had a lot more white damage on him despite swinging for about the same amount

    wait was zau on orb duty in part 2? that's probably why if so

    I had the first orb on phase 2 but I was also erring on the side of caution on poop waves and incoming ballz so I was probably out of melee range for safety's sake

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    little of column A little of column B I guess then

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    The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    we actually wiped because lookin at my stream for the 1% wipe I poped my cd on after the third add on the blast instead of after the collapse and during bloodlust

    I'm slightly serious because that is beserk+trinket+cd+azerite trait and its pretty gross for boomkin

    I also messed up and got hit but I blame everyone else tbh

    mostly uh, zay sure zenya ressed me after holding a brez so

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    The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Also its not really that relevant but you do dodge the corruption wave on the platform so for continued pulls id like to be fifth because it gives me the least amount of waves to worry about healthstoning through

    Im actually tempted to stay on the ledge until the blast because its one less body to dodge and I can run with one stack by my self for ever and self heal forever (id also actually use voice to tell yall to not bother)

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    ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    I've made this exact same post before, but I really do just fucking hate ghuun as a fight.

    Nothing I do in p1 matters, and this is what p2 is for me
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    That stupid mechanic you get that forces you to run out of the raid? It's the least fun thing in all of uldir. Killing Zul trash is more fun than p2 ghuun.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    ghuun is probably the biggest example of phase 1 doesnt matter I can think of in recent expansions

    once we decided melee not deal with the dark young to avoid ballz issues every attempt was like, maker and I killing the same tentacle at the start then interrupting stuff until laser

    fun gameplay

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    WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    Iron Maidens wins the prize with the coveted "the first 80% doesn't matter"

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I like running balls in phase 1 so I have something interesting to do
    I wonder if p1 has mechanics that matter in mythic

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    yeah phase 1 of that fight is terrible, phase 2 is better, phase 3 is fun. they should have completely scrapped the reorigination beam mechanic, it's not fun, and the majority of our wipes were just "oops chi torpedo broke, wipe it"

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    wait, phase 1 is fun, because it lets me pad meters extremely hard. dps straight up doesn't matter in that phase at all, but it's a phase that shadow excels at

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    is there some way to filter warcraft logs to show g'huun and gibbering horrors and not all the rest of the shit that doesn't matter

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Guys I didn't get hit by a single ball tonight, the fuck is wrong with all y'all

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    we should all strive to match fodo's intangibility

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    Mirren hates balls and pizza
    Be like Mirren

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    i unfortunately have to agree that i love fodo now

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    ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    is there some way to filter warcraft logs to show g'huun and gibbering horrors and not all the rest of the shit that doesn't matter

    On individual fights? Sure. Just set the zoom to when the first beam struck to when we wiped. Like this

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/w8AJ6k3v7PyfbC1Y/#fight=32&type=damage-done&start=12284821&end=12644218

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    i unfortunately have to agree that i love fodo now

    You sicken me.

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    WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    im out of town next week and the week after so I'm probably not gonna be up on that first Ghuun kill

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    i might try bm for next week just because I think it would help with boss uptime during mechanics re: ghuun

    and easier to dodge ballz

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    Really solid progress though, you guys.

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    RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Im pretty happy about how basically everyone stayed through so many attempts with a larger turn out. That's...not always the case, when it's just one progression fight the whole time.


    Though at times part of me wished some of you jerks left, because that fight brutalizes my framerate almost immediately with so much going on.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I beat Ghuun on LFR yesterday, after only two attempts, i imagine that fight is...much easier with a coordinated group.

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    SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    I'm not sure which is more disheartening; my parses, or my shitty orb dodges.

    God fucking damn it.

    Eh, it was a learning night. We all took at least one orb we shouldn't have. We'll do better next time.
    Javen wrote: »

    If I'm reading this correctly, this also counts times when the boss explicitly targeted you with the debuff, not just times you ran into an orb. So the story's not quite as bad as it looks here. For instance, on almost every one of our attempts, I never got a debuff placed on me in phase 1, just by luck.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Real sorry I couldn’t be there last night. Stellara Injection on Sunday so hopefully I’ll be there for next week.

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    SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
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    iguanacusiguanacus Desert PlanetRegistered User regular
    I feel bad that I can't do Thursdays, especially when it sounds like there was a lot of effort put into it. My hope is that I don't fuck up enough next week so we get to Ghuun earlier and then (also) don't fuck up with the mechanics that I'm a detriment to the fight. I was doing better on normal than heroic in pretty much all the fights going by rankings and that's after going up 5 ilvls. Gonna get enough potions so that I can pre-pot for every fight and do a ton of fishing to make sure I don't run out of the good food.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »
    I'm not sure which is more disheartening; my parses, or my shitty orb dodges.

    God fucking damn it.

    Eh, it was a learning night. We all took at least one orb we shouldn't have. We'll do better next time.
    Javen wrote: »

    If I'm reading this correctly, this also counts times when the boss explicitly targeted you with the debuff, not just times you ran into an orb. So the story's not quite as bad as it looks here. For instance, on almost every one of our attempts, I never got a debuff placed on me in phase 1, just by luck.

    Not sure that's accurate as one of our better attempts there was a series of 6 explosions where i got targeted 5 times. I'm pretty sure that one pull isn't a full third of my orb hits.

    I know at least 3-5 of the ones on the chart for me were post wipe getting called where i was playing a game to see if you can chase down an orb that you spawned and get hit by it multiple times. You can.

    And 1 was right before a blood feast and i was coming around g'huun warning the raid about a orb that was following me and I got hit by one going directly perpendicular through g'huun.

    I did it just for the dramatic irony.

    Yeah, that's it.

    <.< >.>

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »

    If I'm reading this correctly, this also counts times when the boss explicitly targeted you with the debuff, not just times you ran into an orb. So the story's not quite as bad as it looks here. For instance, on almost every one of our attempts, I never got a debuff placed on me in phase 1, just by luck.

    explosive corruption is the debuff he puts on people at random that can't be avoided, virulent corruption is from coming into contact with an accursed orb

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    I'm having trouble getting it to display anything for Explosive Corruption. I'm trying to see if my count on that one attempt was correct.
    Edit: okay, seems to show no data for all pulls, but single pulls does have something. The one i thought it was had me getting targeted 4 times. The timeline view is miserable on my phone so ill have to do more digging when i get home.

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    H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    I think we have him next week easy.

    The two things that seemed to catch us up in phase 2 were orb running issues and white balls hitting people, especially during the blood feast stack. Aside from the occasional movement ability getting hung up the orb groups seemed to have gotten that part down and even though it still needs some work i could see us getting better with the balls as the night went on.

    Phase 3 is just people needing to pay attention to gaze and learn to deal with the pustiles. That's not gonna be an issue. We only had a handful of pulls get to phase 3 and we got him to 1-2% twice or something like that.

    Another week of practice plus whatever gear from the rest of the place and we have it.

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    I'll try to make myself run a few +6-ish waycrests for a chance at a weapon at least around normal raid ilevels as well.

    My fist weapons are from normal G'huun and a +2 Underrot, so not quite at a good spot for the final heroic raid boss. Fixing that will likely be a good contributor to my dps for that fight, at least.

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    I'm having trouble getting it to display anything for Explosive Corruption. I'm trying to see if my count on that one attempt was correct.
    Edit: okay, seems to show no data for all pulls, but single pulls does have something. The one i thought it was had me getting targeted 4 times. The timeline view is miserable on my phone so ill have to do more digging when i get home.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/w8AJ6k3v7PyfbC1Y/#boss=2122&difficulty=4&wipes=1&type=damage-taken&ability=272508

    keep in mind, getting hit by an orb ALSO will apply an explosive corruption, so it's not the exact amount of being targeted directly

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Getting hit applies both virulent and explosive? That seems unnecessary. How does blizzard expect us to excessively analyse the parses?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I am really hating gear this expansion.

    Because of Azerite bullshit I am having to carry around 3 different azerite bullshit pieces for situations.

    One for tankings, One for Uldir/Single Target shit. And one for M+/Multiple Targets.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Sorry I couldn't be there to run, get hit by, or poop out any orbs. I have had a very heavy semester and Thursdays are a homework night.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I am really hating gear this expansion.

    Because of Azerite bullshit I am having to carry around 3 different azerite bullshit pieces for situations.

    One for tankings, One for Uldir/Single Target shit. And one for M+/Multiple Targets.

    Welcome to playing a hybrid ever.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »

    how the heck
    did we take fall damage jumping down from the ball slot?

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    Carrying up to 3 whole separate pieces of gear to support an entirely different role, what a horrible burden it must be to have options

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »

    how the heck
    did we take fall damage jumping down from the ball slot?

    I typically glide down, but yeah it’s enough to deal mild fall damage

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