Is Top Gun really a beloved film? I mean lets be honest here its not exactly The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.
Hell yea. I love Top Gun.
Unironically.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
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I'd say Top Gun is a Top 20 movie for me, maybe Top 25 if this trend continues of one new good movie a year getting on my list (how many Paddingtons will we get?!?!?!?!?!). The plane stuff is still aces, the drama/romance portion is solid if really predictable now because so much copied it
edit: and it's soundtrack is still one of the best ever, maybe Caddyshack has a better one
I'd say Top Gun is a Top 20 movie for me, maybe Top 25 if this trend continues of one new good movie a year getting on my list (how many Paddingtons will we get?!?!?!?!?!). The plane stuff is still aces, the drama/romance portion is solid if really predictable now because so much copied it
There is a really good book written by the pilot of one of the planes in Top Gun. He did (one pilots) flying for the movie. If you're into aviation its super neat and nerdy (an entire chapter on pre-launch carrier stuff which is fascinating) and also pretty cool from a movie making perspective on how they got some of those shots.
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It's kind of sad Top Gun is considered the standard for dog fighting films, we need something like Ace Combat with full on squad VS squad aerial warfare. Most of Top Gun is just training with one random skirmish that wasn't due to a battle.
When it came out, Top Gun was like Star Wars and the Marvel movies rolled together and then some. The soundtrack was on every radio, dudes all over were wearing that jacket and those shades, and Tom Cruise was the sexiest man in the Milky Way. It raised recruitment levels of the Navy, caused a bump in motorcycle sales, and even made volleyball more popular.
Movies just don’t hit the culture that hard anymore.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Ace Combat 4 is one of my Top 3 games ever, and that story told onscreen would be perfect (they even have basic storyboards ready with the chapters and narration already there). I mean I'd settle for a good quality animoo movie with good 3d modeling, that final mission of taking out Stonehenge could be a beauty in the right hands.
It's kind of sad Top Gun is considered the standard for dog fighting films, we need something like Ace Combat with full on squad VS squad aerial warfare. Most of Top Gun is just training with one random skirmish that wasn't due to a battle.
I think you can really tell it's real flying and not CGI craziness that we would get now-a-days.
Plus, thats what i really like about it. The antagonist isnt some maniacal villain, its the inherent danger of being a fighter pilot. The flying itself is the conflict, not the action. If that makes sense.
It's kind of sad Top Gun is considered the standard for dog fighting films, we need something like Ace Combat with full on squad VS squad aerial warfare. Most of Top Gun is just training with one random skirmish that wasn't due to a battle.
I think you can really tell it's real flying and not CGI craziness that we would get now-a-days.
Plus, thats what i really like about it. The antagonist isnt some maniacal villain, its the inherent danger of being a fighter pilot. The flying itself is the conflict, not the action. If that makes sense.
True, but I do so love a good cinematic dogfight. Rogue One had some amazing capship battles.
Ace Combat 4 is one of my Top 3 games ever, and that story told onscreen would be perfect (they even have basic storyboards ready with the chapters and narration already there). I mean I'd settle for a good quality animoo movie with good 3d modeling, that final mission of taking out Stonehenge could be a beauty in the right hands.
Go on. How does one play that game?
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Ace Combat 4 is one of my Top 3 games ever, and that story told onscreen would be perfect (they even have basic storyboards ready with the chapters and narration already there). I mean I'd settle for a good quality animoo movie with good 3d modeling, that final mission of taking out Stonehenge could be a beauty in the right hands.
Go on. How does one play that game?
It's not our Stonehenge, it's a different Earth that had frequent asteroid attacks so the world's nations built a big base full of railguns to shoot down asteroids and the enemy country took it over to use against everyone else. And the whole point to the mission is to also have your character go up against the l33t Ace Squad of the enemy country, it's really cool.
And then there was another mission called Megalith where you blow it up Death Star 2 style while dogfighting outside with asteroid fragments falling around you:
I'd say Top Gun is a Top 20 movie for me, maybe Top 25 if this trend continues of one new good movie a year getting on my list (how many Paddingtons will we get?!?!?!?!?!). The plane stuff is still aces, the drama/romance portion is solid if really predictable now because so much copied it
edit: and it's soundtrack is still one of the best ever, maybe Caddyshack has a better one
I like the implication that every year you’re adding one Paddington movie to the top of the list until they stop making them, and that’s it for new good movies
And by “like” I mean I don’t understand you at all
I'd say Top Gun is a Top 20 movie for me, maybe Top 25 if this trend continues of one new good movie a year getting on my list (how many Paddingtons will we get?!?!?!?!?!). The plane stuff is still aces, the drama/romance portion is solid if really predictable now because so much copied it
edit: and it's soundtrack is still one of the best ever, maybe Caddyshack has a better one
I like the implication that every year you’re adding one Paddington movie to the top of the list until they stop making them, and that’s it for new good movies
And by “like” I mean I don’t understand you at all
While Paddington 1 rocketed up to the #3 all time spot behind Goodfellas and Spinal Tap, and P2 is probably #11 going by the quick math in my head, there was also Your Name, What We Do In the Shadows and Hell or High Water, the latter is probably #5 right now.
Look, we just have to see how well Angel Has Fallen will be, ok? Will it be like Rocky III being better than I & II (meaning _____ Has Fallen #4 will be the best in the series)? More than likely!
I've never seen Top Gun and have no opinion about it but I enjoyed this review of it
Top Gun
Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr., and Tony Scott, 1986
Top Gun is my standard answer on those rare occasions that someone asks me what my least favorite movie is. Quite often those who ask — usually students — are stunned, having expected me to name some low-budget B-movie. But Top Gun is the archetype of formulaic tripe, and its blatant attempt to narrow the range of acceptable thought is borrowed directly from the old "less filling tastes great" commercials. Will you support that devil-may-care Maverick, or are you more of a by-the-book Navy brass type? Either way, you end up on the same side at the end when our boys are blowing up insectoid Soviet pilots... who are defending their own airspace, but never mind that. Apparently this was one of the most effective military recruitment films ever, though I have to imagine that the Marines commercial that promises that the people you kill will just blink out of existence is a close second. Well, third, behind the one that offers the chance to fight lava monsters.
I've never seen Top Gun and have no opinion about it but I enjoyed this review of it
Top Gun
Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr., and Tony Scott, 1986
Top Gun is my standard answer on those rare occasions that someone asks me what my least favorite movie is. Quite often those who ask — usually students — are stunned, having expected me to name some low-budget B-movie. But Top Gun is the archetype of formulaic tripe, and its blatant attempt to narrow the range of acceptable thought is borrowed directly from the old "less filling tastes great" commercials. Will you support that devil-may-care Maverick, or are you more of a by-the-book Navy brass type? Either way, you end up on the same side at the end when our boys are blowing up insectoid Soviet pilots... who are defending their own airspace, but never mind that. Apparently this was one of the most effective military recruitment films ever, though I have to imagine that the Marines commercial that promises that the people you kill will just blink out of existence is a close second. Well, third, behind the one that offers the chance to fight lava monsters.
My one quibble is that Top Gun is hilariously vague about just who they are fighting. The enemy are bad guys in Migs with big red stars on the wings - generic commie menace. They might as well have been Cobra.
I've never seen Top Gun and have no opinion about it but I enjoyed this review of it
Top Gun
Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr., and Tony Scott, 1986
Top Gun is my standard answer on those rare occasions that someone asks me what my least favorite movie is. Quite often those who ask — usually students — are stunned, having expected me to name some low-budget B-movie. But Top Gun is the archetype of formulaic tripe, and its blatant attempt to narrow the range of acceptable thought is borrowed directly from the old "less filling tastes great" commercials. Will you support that devil-may-care Maverick, or are you more of a by-the-book Navy brass type? Either way, you end up on the same side at the end when our boys are blowing up insectoid Soviet pilots... who are defending their own airspace, but never mind that. Apparently this was one of the most effective military recruitment films ever, though I have to imagine that the Marines commercial that promises that the people you kill will just blink out of existence is a close second. Well, third, behind the one that offers the chance to fight lava monsters.
My one quibble is that Top Gun is hilariously vague about just who they are fighting. The enemy are bad guys in Migs with big red stars on the wings - generic commie menace. They might as well have been Cobra.
It's an artifact of the movie having not set up any conflict before then that allows them to have a dogfight.
I've never seen Top Gun and have no opinion about it but I enjoyed this review of it
Top Gun
Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr., and Tony Scott, 1986
Top Gun is my standard answer on those rare occasions that someone asks me what my least favorite movie is. Quite often those who ask — usually students — are stunned, having expected me to name some low-budget B-movie. But Top Gun is the archetype of formulaic tripe, and its blatant attempt to narrow the range of acceptable thought is borrowed directly from the old "less filling tastes great" commercials. Will you support that devil-may-care Maverick, or are you more of a by-the-book Navy brass type? Either way, you end up on the same side at the end when our boys are blowing up insectoid Soviet pilots... who are defending their own airspace, but never mind that. Apparently this was one of the most effective military recruitment films ever, though I have to imagine that the Marines commercial that promises that the people you kill will just blink out of existence is a close second. Well, third, behind the one that offers the chance to fight lava monsters.
My one quibble is that Top Gun is hilariously vague about just who they are fighting. The enemy are bad guys in Migs with big red stars on the wings - generic commie menace. They might as well have been Cobra.
As a young(er) nerd with something of an enthusiasm for warplanes of the era, borne by the ubiquity of the 8- and 16-bit flight simulator genre on home computers of the time, my biggest quibble with Top Gun was that the "Soviets" were flying F-5 Tigers. Which the likes of Viper and Jester (IIRC) were also flying in earlier training sequences.
Damn the realities of Cold War era filmmaking, and the difficulty/expense of the amazing footage they did shoot (some of that shit is breathtaking and CGI simply would not be the same) but I would have loved to have seen actual MiGs. Or at least something I didn't instantly recognize as a USN/USMC fighter
They were the right planes to be used as adversary trainers, though, so that part was right!
I've never seen Top Gun and have no opinion about it but I enjoyed this review of it
Top Gun
Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr., and Tony Scott, 1986
Top Gun is my standard answer on those rare occasions that someone asks me what my least favorite movie is. Quite often those who ask — usually students — are stunned, having expected me to name some low-budget B-movie. But Top Gun is the archetype of formulaic tripe, and its blatant attempt to narrow the range of acceptable thought is borrowed directly from the old "less filling tastes great" commercials. Will you support that devil-may-care Maverick, or are you more of a by-the-book Navy brass type? Either way, you end up on the same side at the end when our boys are blowing up insectoid Soviet pilots... who are defending their own airspace, but never mind that. Apparently this was one of the most effective military recruitment films ever, though I have to imagine that the Marines commercial that promises that the people you kill will just blink out of existence is a close second. Well, third, behind the one that offers the chance to fight lava monsters.
My one quibble is that Top Gun is hilariously vague about just who they are fighting. The enemy are bad guys in Migs with big red stars on the wings - generic commie menace. They might as well have been Cobra.
As a young(er) nerd with something of an enthusiasm for warplanes of the era, borne by the ubiquity of the 8- and 16-bit flight simulator genre on home computers of the time, my biggest quibble with Top Gun was that the "Soviets" were flying F-5 Tigers. Which the likes of Viper and Jester (IIRC) were also flying in earlier training sequences.
Damn the realities of Cold War era filmmaking, and the difficulty/expense of the amazing footage they did shoot (some of that shit is breathtaking and CGI simply would not be the same) but I would have loved to have seen actual MiGs. Or at least something I didn't instantly recognize as a USN/USMC fighter
They were the right planes to be used as adversary trainers, though, so that part was right!
Ha! That reminds me of all the war/spy movies of that era who used to film in Israel because they had so much captured Soviet-made gear lying around after the wars.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
The Hobbit in 48 fps looked like a 1980's made-for-tv movie with how incredibly fake everything looked.
I really likd the 48 fps, it made everything clearer.
yeah, sure, I could see that some of the "metal" was rubber etc. but that's an issue with prop quality.
I could also what the hell was going on in what would otherwise be a confusing action scene, which is something I appreaciate a lot more.
Maybe it's just bad eye sight on my part, but I am sad that the 48fps thing hasn't caught on. I personally liked it.
It's also a quick way to completely stomp out small studios from doing anything other than "Real World Things" without sfx, since anything requiring props or special effects will likely balloon budgets far beyond where they are now. Double the frames, double the render time.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Just happened to watch two wildly different yet highly praised Korean films back to back.
Train to Busan
Original premise, well made, but... it's still, frankly, very predictably a zombie movie. Firing on all cylinders, production-wise, but predictable as f.
Also,
needlessly depressing. I'm glad the ending didn't go full Night of the Living Dead, but it's still pretty damn bleak. There's no way Busan has a prayer against what's coming, and I think they should have let the father get there with his daughter.
Now The Handmaiden... that's a masterpiece, twists on twists on twists.
Don't watch that among family though, yeesh. That makes Blue Is The Warmest Color look like a Disney channel movie.
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Tynnanseldom correct, never unsureRegistered Userregular
I've never seen Top Gun and have no opinion about it but I enjoyed this review of it
Top Gun
Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr., and Tony Scott, 1986
Top Gun is my standard answer on those rare occasions that someone asks me what my least favorite movie is. Quite often those who ask — usually students — are stunned, having expected me to name some low-budget B-movie. But Top Gun is the archetype of formulaic tripe, and its blatant attempt to narrow the range of acceptable thought is borrowed directly from the old "less filling tastes great" commercials. Will you support that devil-may-care Maverick, or are you more of a by-the-book Navy brass type? Either way, you end up on the same side at the end when our boys are blowing up insectoid Soviet pilots... who are defending their own airspace, but never mind that. Apparently this was one of the most effective military recruitment films ever, though I have to imagine that the Marines commercial that promises that the people you kill will just blink out of existence is a close second. Well, third, behind the one that offers the chance to fight lava monsters.
My one quibble is that Top Gun is hilariously vague about just who they are fighting. The enemy are bad guys in Migs with big red stars on the wings - generic commie menace. They might as well have been Cobra.
As a young(er) nerd with something of an enthusiasm for warplanes of the era, borne by the ubiquity of the 8- and 16-bit flight simulator genre on home computers of the time, my biggest quibble with Top Gun was that the "Soviets" were flying F-5 Tigers. Which the likes of Viper and Jester (IIRC) were also flying in earlier training sequences.
Damn the realities of Cold War era filmmaking, and the difficulty/expense of the amazing footage they did shoot (some of that shit is breathtaking and CGI simply would not be the same) but I would have loved to have seen actual MiGs. Or at least something I didn't instantly recognize as a USN/USMC fighter
They were the right planes to be used as adversary trainers, though, so that part was right!
I had the exact same complaint watching it as a kid! I wish they could have even used another NATO plane, like a French Mirage or something, to distinguish from the F-5's.
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I'd say Top Gun is a Top 20 movie for me, maybe Top 25 if this trend continues of one new good movie a year getting on my list (how many Paddingtons will we get?!?!?!?!?!). The plane stuff is still aces, the drama/romance portion is solid if really predictable now because so much copied it
edit: and it's soundtrack is still one of the best ever, maybe Caddyshack has a better one
I like the implication that every year you’re adding one Paddington movie to the top of the list until they stop making them, and that’s it for new good movies
And by “like” I mean I don’t understand you at all
While Paddington 1 rocketed up to the #3 all time spot behind Goodfellas and Spinal Tap, and P2 is probably #11 going by the quick math in my head, there was also Your Name, What We Do In the Shadows and Hell or High Water, the latter is probably #5 right now.
Look, we just have to see how well Angel Has Fallen will be, ok? Will it be like Rocky III being better than I & II (meaning _____ Has Fallen #4 will be the best in the series)? More than likely!
If Angel Has Fallen is bad, will that mean that the Has Fallen series has fallen off?
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knitdanIn ur baseKillin ur guysRegistered Userregular
The enemy planes in Top Gun weren’t defending their own airspace, they were threatening a disabled ship in international waters.
I always kind of liked Iron Eagle but it’s been years since I saw it.
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Captain Marvel is supposed to be a mix of "Top Gun and The Terminator" and the cat in the trailers name is Goose.
Which, yeah, Top Gun.
I loved Iron Eagle as a kid, but like Dan it's been since the year started with 19 that I saw the movie.
I've always loved top gun, even if it is silly. I was actually on the enterprise in the navy, which is depicted in the film , and used a lot of their pilots for the film if I remember right, but was only used for one scene in the movie. Can't remember which carrier most of it was filmed on.
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There’s also Clint Eastwood’s Firefox which was technically advanced for the time but got panned by most critics.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
The enemy planes in Top Gun weren’t defending their own airspace, they were threatening a disabled ship in international waters.
Actually, the ship was in foreign territory. It had been in international water, then became disabled, and drifted into somewhere it wasn't supposed to be, probably because it was a spy ship.
My issue with Top Gun is that the F-14 is supposed to blow you the fuck out of the sky from miles away. This actually happened with Libya a couple times in the mid-80s.
But yes, dogfights are more exciting.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
The story for Top Gun is interesting because Maverick fucks up and makes the wrong choice at literally every turn and still ends up the hero somehow.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
I mean I always blamed Iceman for Goose's death, not Mav. Stop taking so long to line up the damn shot, you either got it or you don't.
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Those eggs fucking died.
Yes I'm just joking that either would get mad at you for confusing them
Hell yea. I love Top Gun.
Unironically.
edit: and it's soundtrack is still one of the best ever, maybe Caddyshack has a better one
Some of it is literally just because you're watching it on a smaller screen.
This was less of an issue back when all televisions were also SD.
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There is a really good book written by the pilot of one of the planes in Top Gun. He did (one pilots) flying for the movie. If you're into aviation its super neat and nerdy (an entire chapter on pre-launch carrier stuff which is fascinating) and also pretty cool from a movie making perspective on how they got some of those shots.
Movies just don’t hit the culture that hard anymore.
You mean The Pest starring John Leguizamo
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I think you can really tell it's real flying and not CGI craziness that we would get now-a-days.
Plus, thats what i really like about it. The antagonist isnt some maniacal villain, its the inherent danger of being a fighter pilot. The flying itself is the conflict, not the action. If that makes sense.
True, but I do so love a good cinematic dogfight. Rogue One had some amazing capship battles.
Go on. How does one play that game?
It's not our Stonehenge, it's a different Earth that had frequent asteroid attacks so the world's nations built a big base full of railguns to shoot down asteroids and the enemy country took it over to use against everyone else. And the whole point to the mission is to also have your character go up against the l33t Ace Squad of the enemy country, it's really cool.
And then there was another mission called Megalith where you blow it up Death Star 2 style while dogfighting outside with asteroid fragments falling around you:
I like the implication that every year you’re adding one Paddington movie to the top of the list until they stop making them, and that’s it for new good movies
And by “like” I mean I don’t understand you at all
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While Paddington 1 rocketed up to the #3 all time spot behind Goodfellas and Spinal Tap, and P2 is probably #11 going by the quick math in my head, there was also Your Name, What We Do In the Shadows and Hell or High Water, the latter is probably #5 right now.
Look, we just have to see how well Angel Has Fallen will be, ok? Will it be like Rocky III being better than I & II (meaning _____ Has Fallen #4 will be the best in the series)? More than likely!
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My one quibble is that Top Gun is hilariously vague about just who they are fighting. The enemy are bad guys in Migs with big red stars on the wings - generic commie menace. They might as well have been Cobra.
It's an artifact of the movie having not set up any conflict before then that allows them to have a dogfight.
As a young(er) nerd with something of an enthusiasm for warplanes of the era, borne by the ubiquity of the 8- and 16-bit flight simulator genre on home computers of the time, my biggest quibble with Top Gun was that the "Soviets" were flying F-5 Tigers. Which the likes of Viper and Jester (IIRC) were also flying in earlier training sequences.
Damn the realities of Cold War era filmmaking, and the difficulty/expense of the amazing footage they did shoot (some of that shit is breathtaking and CGI simply would not be the same) but I would have loved to have seen actual MiGs. Or at least something I didn't instantly recognize as a USN/USMC fighter
They were the right planes to be used as adversary trainers, though, so that part was right!
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Ha! That reminds me of all the war/spy movies of that era who used to film in Israel because they had so much captured Soviet-made gear lying around after the wars.
It's also a quick way to completely stomp out small studios from doing anything other than "Real World Things" without sfx, since anything requiring props or special effects will likely balloon budgets far beyond where they are now. Double the frames, double the render time.
Train to Busan
Original premise, well made, but... it's still, frankly, very predictably a zombie movie. Firing on all cylinders, production-wise, but predictable as f.
Also,
Now The Handmaiden... that's a masterpiece, twists on twists on twists.
Don't watch that among family though, yeesh. That makes Blue Is The Warmest Color look like a Disney channel movie.
I had the exact same complaint watching it as a kid! I wish they could have even used another NATO plane, like a French Mirage or something, to distinguish from the F-5's.
If Angel Has Fallen is bad, will that mean that the Has Fallen series has fallen off?
I always kind of liked Iron Eagle but it’s been years since I saw it.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Which, yeah, Top Gun.
I loved Iron Eagle as a kid, but like Dan it's been since the year started with 19 that I saw the movie.
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Firefox is also dark and nihilistic. It’s tonally the opposite of Top Gun.
Actually, the ship was in foreign territory. It had been in international water, then became disabled, and drifted into somewhere it wasn't supposed to be, probably because it was a spy ship.
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But yes, dogfights are more exciting.