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What Kind of [Podcast] Do You Like?

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    They show 47 as a child multiple times in the recent games

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    Couldn't it be
    One of the dudes he was cloned from?

    I mean yeah there were 46 before him, too. They all look exactly like that.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    Mr. G wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    They show 47 as a child multiple times in the recent games

    Huh! Guess they retconned that into accelerated aging or something.

    Anyway yeah there are a bunch of sci-fi handwavey ways to explain those inconsistencies.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    That is

    An extremely weird group of characters that I am way into

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    the wiki says Diana is 46 years old

    the CGI made her look far older

    but I suppose a 9 year difference between her and 47 does allow for him to be a killer and her to still be a little girl

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    crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
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    I think she was about 13 when her parents died? Something like that? That would make her 46-47ish in 2019

    47 would be a young adult in 1985.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    No he grows up like a normal child, they show pictures of him

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    Couldn't it be
    One of the dudes he was cloned from?

    No, they don’t look like him. He looks like all of them, out together. They’re the targets from the first game.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I'm making my way through the Giant Bomb christmas stuff

    Jeff getting 3 red skittles in a row and guessing different flavors each time was amazing

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
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    I think this game which exists in an extremely heightened reality might be playing a bit fast and loose with their timeline and whether or not things make perfect logical sense probably isn't paramount.

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
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    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Polearms>Axes>Swords

    However only if the Polearms are being used in a cool flashy twirly bullshit manner

    Regular boring stab stab polearms can get bent

    hmm, that is a valid point

    when stabbing with a polearm, there is always a risk of bending the pole, and thereby compromising it's accuracy

    great observation

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    edited January 2019
    SimBen wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    They show 47 as a child multiple times in the recent games

    Huh! Guess they retconned that into accelerated aging or something.

    Anyway yeah there are a bunch of sci-fi handwavey ways to explain those inconsistencies.

    My read is (Hitman 2 spoilers if the quote tree looses the tag)
    Diana is roughly 40, but looks a bit older depending on your opinion. She was 12 or so at the time of the bombing, which allows 47 to be in his mid 50s if that hit was right at the start of his career in his early to mid 20s

    Also maybe throwing this stuff around outside of spoiler tags is a bit much, it's a silly story but it's only like 2 months old.

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    Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
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    The Waypoint winter holiday clip show sure went to some wild places. Like place here:

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
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    This is insane

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    The Waypoint winter holiday clip show sure went to some wild places. Like place here:

    Yeah, I started playing that game

    It’s, uh, a lot

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Straightzi wrote: »
    This is genuinely rad as hell

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    SimBen wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I mean, how old is agent 47 actually

    Diana looks like she's 50-60ish and 47 has to be older

    but he's also a superscience genetic clone of the world's greatest criminals, so he has to have been generated at some point after... the end of the 1950s?

    we need a zelda-esque chart for the Hitman timeline

    They fucked up the timeline completely in the last one by having an adult 47
    kill the parents of Diana as a child, which would make him I dunno, 70 or some shit. The plot is dumb.

    47 was grown in a vat, he was never a child. He was an adult in 1964 and has always looked like that.

    They show 47 as a child multiple times in the recent games

    Huh! Guess they retconned that into accelerated aging or something.

    Anyway yeah there are a bunch of sci-fi handwavey ways to explain those inconsistencies.

    My read is (Hitman 2 spoilers if the quote tree looses the tag)
    Diana is roughly 40, but looks a bit older depending on your opinion. She was 12 or so at the time of the bombing, which allows 47 to be in his mid 50s if that hit was right at the start of his career in his early to mid 20s

    Also maybe throwing this stuff around outside of spoiler tags is a bit much, it's a silly story but it's only like 2 months old.

    The stuff that's outside of spoilers is just like, the premise of the game.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    The Hitman games are frustrating because 3 of them (Codename 47, Contracts, Blood Money) have realised that it's a fun, pulpy premise to tell a simple, dumb story with and the rest of the series has been convinced that it's some operatic masterpiece that needs grand conspiracies and a rich backstory.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular

    I hear the bell ringing

    What’s that? The jersey’s coming down from the rafters? A friendly old woman says hello? All telltale signs of the unretirement of a bit!

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I am bummed but also the normal bit is better than Griffins awful version of it he was doing after the "retirement"

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    Tube wrote: »
    The Hitman games are frustrating because 3 of them (Codename 47, Contracts, Blood Money) have realised that it's a fun, pulpy premise to tell a simple, dumb story with and the rest of the series has been convinced that it's some operatic masterpiece that needs grand conspiracies and a rich backstory.

    There is something... nice about specifically the premise and intro of Hitman 2: Silent Assassin too where he's trying to make a go of it caring for his tiny tomato garden and creating life instead of ending it before it all goes to shit

    of course then as a game it's not great but there's that

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    I am bummed but also the normal bit is better than Griffins awful version of it he was doing after the "retirement"

    The Big Ben chimes part of the bit made me laugh every single time

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    The Hitman games are frustrating because 3 of them (Codename 47, Contracts, Blood Money) have realised that it's a fun, pulpy premise to tell a simple, dumb story with and the rest of the series has been convinced that it's some operatic masterpiece that needs grand conspiracies and a rich backstory.

    There is something... nice about specifically the premise and intro of Hitman 2: Silent Assassin too where he's trying to make a go of it caring for his tiny tomato garden and creating life instead of ending it before it all goes to shit

    of course then as a game it's not great but there's that

    I kind of hated it, but I get where you're coming from. I liked the idea (and there was only one game at that point) that 47 is just kind of a weird alien who is extremely good at one thing and so does that because it's all he knows how to do. Having him have a crisis of conscience and find religion felt a little... obvious to me. Then again, I hated that game with the fiery intensity that only someone in their teens/early 20s can muster and I'm not sure I ever completely shook my somewhat irrational hatred of every part of it. For me it took every step wrong that it possibly could, and some of those mistakes are still in the series to this day.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    Hitman's story is good

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    Tube wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    The Hitman games are frustrating because 3 of them (Codename 47, Contracts, Blood Money) have realised that it's a fun, pulpy premise to tell a simple, dumb story with and the rest of the series has been convinced that it's some operatic masterpiece that needs grand conspiracies and a rich backstory.

    There is something... nice about specifically the premise and intro of Hitman 2: Silent Assassin too where he's trying to make a go of it caring for his tiny tomato garden and creating life instead of ending it before it all goes to shit

    of course then as a game it's not great but there's that

    I kind of hated it, but I get where you're coming from. I liked the idea (and there was only one game at that point) that 47 is just kind of a weird alien who is extremely good at one thing and so does that because it's all he knows how to do. Having him have a crisis of conscience and find religion felt a little... obvious to me. Then again, I hated that game with the fiery intensity that only someone in their teens/early 20s can muster and I'm not sure I ever completely shook my somewhat irrational hatred of every part of it. For me it took every step wrong that it possibly could, and some of those mistakes are still in the series to this day.

    I mean that one level in the snow with the trucks is enough to write that game completely off so I feel you.

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    -Tal wrote: »
    Hitman's story is good

    which one

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    Tube wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    Hitman's story is good

    which one

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Hitman 2 has a dumb plot, but I spent twenty minutes yesterday running around a castle and slapping people with a fish, so, I'll forgive it a lot

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    I actively sought out and enjoyed all in mission story content in hitman

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
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    I guess I've never really seen plot as the draw of the Hitman franchise. Which isn't to say you can't enjoy the plot of course, but I kind of figured people were there for the "carefully craft a plan and then desperately flail about in a panic as it all goes horribly wrong" gameplay.

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    crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
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    I think story-wise my favorite part about Hitman/2 is all the little side-stories you get from just characters around the levels. I haven't played any HItman game other than the 2 most recent installments however, so I don't know how much of that was there previously.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    There's only one game titled Hitman

    There's only one game titled Hitman 2

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    The fun part of the plot of the recent hitman games is moving through the levels and finding the weird connections between events/targets that are laying around

    There’s a surprising amount of connections between targets that are just passed along through conversations people in the level are having about them. It’s neat!

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
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    Straightzi wrote: »

    The last 30 seconds or so are A Lot, this is very good

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Hitman 2 has a dumb plot, but I spent twenty minutes yesterday running around a castle and slapping people with a fish, so, I'll forgive it a lot

    And then you played Hitman 2?

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    I actively sought out and enjoyed all in mission story content in hitman

    I agree with this! That stuff was all great. I especially loved the stuff with Jebediah Block in the last mission.

    It's the frame plot that I think is stupid.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I dunno, people talking about a tv show but not really about the tv show all the time?
    I realized quickly that I don't really enjoy playing the new Hitman games at all, but I very much enjoy watching other people's shenanigans in same

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
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    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I realized quickly that I don't really enjoy playing the new Hitman games at all, but I very much enjoy watching other people's shenanigans in same

    It's a perfect stream game because it both lets you set clearly defined goals, so there's something implicitly engaging for the viewer, and will almost certainly throw some curveballs at you that require improvisation, which is exciting and oftentimes hilarious.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited January 2019
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    Oh, that reminds me, speedrunner TheKotti updated his Hitman Roulette app for Hitman 2: https://thekotti.github.io/hitman.html
    This site will randomize stuff for you ala Mexican Rules Hitman, giving you random kill types, entrances, exits, and disguises for any target, potentially including complications like "No Crouching" or "No throwing items for distractions." It also has support for Contracts mode, giving you random targets to take out, and alternate bonus episode versions of levels like The Icon or Holiday Hoarders.

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