[Destiny 2] Forsaken: Dance Like Nobody's Shooting (At You)

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Disrupter wrote: »
    Ok last update until things change. But 5 nova warp casts. 3 instant shut downs and two trades.

    Kd while using an ults that whenever I play against Is an auto team wipe? 2-5

    What the hell am I doing wrong? Keep in mind my kd in those matches overall is like 2.5. So these guys aren’t even good

    I’m blinking and warping. Just as soon as I go to charge a warp I get team shot instantly

    When are you activating the warp? I've had the best success by popping my super when I'm already within, or very nearly within, blast range of 2-3 people and I've got at least one other person on my team in the area trading fire. If they're grouped up like that then they're probably trying to travel as a team or hold a point and the other 3-4 are on their way to where I'm at. Pop the warp, blast them before they have time to concentrate fire on me, and then the rest of their team will either die to me coming around a corner and blasting them or me blinking to catch up as they try to desperately flee and, since they weren't already in position, they're not grouped up to team shoot me down.

    Also I'm fairly certain I saw a nova warping warlock last night actually regenerate shield while I shot him. So that was something.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    yeah you might notice the more invincible nova warpers are killing people one at a time because the kills are what heal them

    i mean other than when someone in nova warp just gets the drop on a group an annihilates all of them at once

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Something to keep in mind-Popping Nova Warp doesn't trigger an explosion, it just activates. You wanna activate around the corner from enemies so it's safe to pop, then use blink and teleport to close the gap

  • squall99xsquall99x Registered User regular
    Xagar wrote: »
    You don't really need to use Blink to do well with Nova Warp - the thing with all warlock jumps, including Blink, is that the distance traveled is determined by your velocity when you start the jump. So, you need to double tap jump to get height with glides because you're traveling fastest at the start of your normal jump. Nova Warp's blink is odd in that it travels horizontally only, but you can still make it move you very far by blinking immediately after you start your double jump; so double tap jump then hit melee as fast as you can to propel yourself.

    Any agility or speed buffs you have also affect Blink distance and angle (but not height). I've found it pretty difficult to use post-nerf from d1, but the mechanics haven't changed.

    I believe you can actually get more distance/speed with using Burst Glide as far as combining it with the super blink. If that is what one was looking for.

    @Disrupter This video has some info on the super and its interactions. One thing I try to remember is that pressing the attack button immediately following blink makes an attack go off as soon as the blink animation is finished as opposed to having a second or so delay.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_LKb54FLYo

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Radiolaria tastes like seawater.

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Last exotic before patch - Celestial Nighthawk.

    First exotic after anti-dupe patch - Celestial Nighthawk.

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Radiolaria tastes like seawater.

    So do mollusks and people eat those all the damn time.
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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Sirialis wrote: »
    Last exotic before patch - Celestial Nighthawk.

    First exotic after anti-dupe patch - Celestial Nighthawk.

    Have you considered visiting a geomancer? Your feng shui is all kinds of off. Do you live on the head of a dragon? Can you move your current residence?

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    I refuse to believe the Drifter doesn't have cool dialogue.

    The Drifter has the best lines.

    "You ever tried to headbutt a kell? Don't. You'll break your neck. Use bullets."

  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    ... For fucks sake, are you kidding me?

    I’ve just gotten the Nighthawk from Blind Well, then cash in my 8 bounties in DC one and get a fucking Telesto.

    Fuck your anti dupe patch Bungie :-1:

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  • SuperRuperSuperRuper Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    I refuse to believe the Drifter doesn't have cool dialogue.

    The Drifter has the best lines.

    "You ever tried to headbutt a kell? Don't. You'll break your neck. Use bullets."

    I mean yeah his lines in general are fun and interesting. But any lines he has regarding guardian combat is just insane. His voice actor (Todd Haberkorn) just nailed it.

    The way he gets pumped up after you wipe a whole team just makes me want to bank as many motes as possible and do it again.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    The crazy laugh he does is very similar to how I react when I wipe a team in Comp

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    when the drifter says he's proud of me it makes me feel gross

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    i mean, this may all stem from the fact that i am constitutionally unable to take seriously a grown man who refers to himself as the drifter like some 90s edgelord comic book antihero

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  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    I think my luck has transferred to Eververse, literally just opened 2 engrams and both had an exotic sparrow in them.

    Edit: I also got the Infected Seeker, that new FotL exotic ship. (already have the other ship)

    So 3 exotics in 6 engrams.

    Sirialis on
  • DodgeBlanDodgeBlan PSN: dodgeblanRegistered User regular
    I can’t tell whether the drifter is supposed to be a legitimately cool guy or a lame guy who thinks he’s cool

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    DodgeBlan wrote: »
    I can’t tell whether the drifter is supposed to be a legitimately cool guy or a lame guy who thinks he’s cool

    is there a difference

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  • SuperRuperSuperRuper Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i mean, this may all stem from the fact that i am constitutionally unable to take seriously a grown man who refers to himself as the drifter like some 90s edgelord comic book antihero

    Oh don't get me wrong, I don't believe he's an anti-hero at all. He's a bad dude.

    Additionally I'm quite excited to suffer any consequences that are rendered by me helping him. I hope he uses all these motes to summon a big bad so we have to deal with a situation that we ourselves created.

    And then he says "oh no, it was a huge accident and I totally wasn't responsible and it won't happen again" with his fingers crossed behind his back and then I continue to funnel motes to him.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i mean, this may all stem from the fact that i am constitutionally unable to take seriously a grown man who refers to himself as the drifter like some 90s edgelord comic book antihero

    Oh don't get me wrong, I don't believe he's an anti-hero at all. He's a bad dude.

    Additionally I'm quite excited to suffer any consequences that are rendered by me helping him. I hope he uses all these motes to summon a big bad so we have to deal with a situation that we ourselves created.

    And then he says "oh no, it was a huge accident and I totally wasn't responsible and it won't happen again" with his fingers crossed behind his back and then I continue to funnel motes to him.

    oh i don't think he is an antihero

    i think he's a giant doofus

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Reading his lore stuff makes me think the doofus persona is a complete act and that at some point he'll show his true colors and they are bad.

    Otherwise I'd probably agree that he gets tiresome.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    it may be a personal failing, but the superficial character concept of the drifter is so cliché and unappealing to me that i find it impossible to care about any lore involving him

    like

    i just can't

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    SuperRuper wrote: »
    I refuse to believe the Drifter doesn't have cool dialogue.

    The Drifter has the best lines.

    "You ever tried to headbutt a kell? Don't. You'll break your neck. Use bullets."

    I mean yeah his lines in general are fun and interesting. But any lines he has regarding guardian combat is just insane. His voice actor (Todd Haberkorn) just nailed it.

    The way he gets pumped up after you wipe a whole team just makes me want to bank as many motes as possible and do it again.

    The voice actor they got is just giving it all and it's fantastic.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    it may be a personal failing, but the superficial character concept of the drifter is so cliché and unappealing to me that i find it impossible to care about any lore involving him

    like

    i just can't

    You're playing right into his hands.

    He doesn't want you to look to deep and just instead either ignore him while you give him motes or look past him because he's so cliche.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Given how trigger happy the Guardian is generally I have real trouble seeing why the Drifter is still walking around and all that.

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Given how trigger happy the Guardian is generally I have real trouble seeing why the Drifter is still walking around and all that.

    I don't get how he's allowed in the Tower at all, tbh.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    it may be a personal failing, but the superficial character concept of the drifter is so cliché and unappealing to me that i find it impossible to care about any lore involving him

    like

    i just can't

    I mean, he's a lightbearer with like zero ethics. That's the core character concept. He's from the pre-Iron-Lords and thus pre-Guardians era.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    it may be a personal failing, but the superficial character concept of the drifter is so cliché and unappealing to me that i find it impossible to care about any lore involving him

    like

    i just can't

    You're playing right into his hands.

    He doesn't want you to look to deep and just instead either ignore him while you give him motes or look past him because he's so cliche.

    well it's also the case that i haven't had time to look deeper into anything since coming back to forsaken because i don't have time to dick around in the triumphs tab while there is grind to attend to

    i'm hoping now that i'm 600 i'll feel comfortable actually enjoying the finer points of the game again

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Given how trigger happy the Guardian is generally I have real trouble seeing why the Drifter is still walking around and all that.

    I don't get how he's allowed in the Tower at all, tbh.

    The Lore goes into this somewhat. Also, he's kinda hiding in the tower, hence his shop being set up in a back-alley.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    i just

    a swashbuckling loner stranger showing up calling himself the drifter

    i can't

    i just can't

    it's so incredibly stupid and played out i can't get past it

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Given how trigger happy the Guardian is generally I have real trouble seeing why the Drifter is still walking around and all that.

    I don't get how he's allowed in the Tower at all, tbh.

    The Lore goes into this somewhat. Also, he's kinda hiding in the tower, hence his shop being set up in a back-alley.

    "hiding"

  • ToasticusToasticus yeah YEAHRegistered User regular
    The drifter thinking he's cool is one of the funny things about him. He's like Cayde's skeezy brother, who pulls you aside at the party to tell you about this investment plan he's in on and which is totally not a pyramid scheme.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Given how trigger happy the Guardian is generally I have real trouble seeing why the Drifter is still walking around and all that.

    I don't get how he's allowed in the Tower at all, tbh.

    The Lore goes into this somewhat. Also, he's kinda hiding in the tower, hence his shop being set up in a back-alley.

    "hiding"

    I mean, there's only so much you can do given video game. The "city" is also like 3 rooms and the Vanguard apparently do their business standing around outside staring over ledges.

  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Toasticus wrote: »
    The drifter thinking he's cool is one of the funny things about him. He's like Cayde's skeezy brother, who pulls you aside at the party to tell you about this investment plan he's in on and which is totally not a pyramid scheme.

    omg this is perfect

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Given how trigger happy the Guardian is generally I have real trouble seeing why the Drifter is still walking around and all that.

    I don't get how he's allowed in the Tower at all, tbh.

    Hey now brothers and sisters... be kind. This is no way to talk about a fellow bearer of the light!

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    My initial impression of the drifter was that his whole persona is an act to make people discount him until he shoots them in the back.

    But then I remembered that this is Bungie we're talking about and despite improvements in Forsaken I'm still not convinced the team in charge of cinematics and voice acting has any communication with the people writing the lore entries, so probably the drifter we see in the game is exactly the drifter and he just doesn't match up with who he comes across as in the lore the same way Eris, Ikora, Zavala, etc. don't seem to be the same people in their grimoire cards/lore entries and when we actually see them in-game.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    My initial impression of the drifter was that his whole persona is an act to make people discount him until he shoots them in the back.

    But then I remembered that this is Bungie we're talking about and despite improvements in Forsaken I'm still not convinced the team in charge of cinematics and voice acting has any communication with the people writing the lore entries, so probably the drifter we see in the game is exactly the drifter and he just doesn't match up with who he comes across as in the lore the same way Eris, Ikora, Zavala, etc. don't seem to be the same people in their grimoire cards/lore entries and when we actually see them in-game.

    i am absolutely sure someone in a writer's meeting was like

    hey i have this cool idea for an edgy new character

    and they were like yes this is a good idea

    and i get severe second-hand embarrassment about it

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Dude also has a pet thing that basically
    kills guardians by eating their light

    Does no one wonder why we feed Motes of LIGHT into what looks like a Taken gestation chamber? Then we summon ancient Taken to kill us?

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Dude also has a pet thing that basically
    kills guardians by eating their light

    Does no one wonder why we feed Motes of LIGHT into what looks like a Taken gestation chamber? Then we summon ancient Taken to kill us?

    Those things aren't motes of light. Its much worse than that. They are actually motes of darkness.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    I don’t think I got as much hate mail for anything like I do for using Telesto in quickplay. I get even more hate mail than I did for being mediocre in S3 competitive.

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    My initial impression of the drifter was that his whole persona is an act to make people discount him until he shoots them in the back.

    But then I remembered that this is Bungie we're talking about and despite improvements in Forsaken I'm still not convinced the team in charge of cinematics and voice acting has any communication with the people writing the lore entries, so probably the drifter we see in the game is exactly the drifter and he just doesn't match up with who he comes across as in the lore the same way Eris, Ikora, Zavala, etc. don't seem to be the same people in their grimoire cards/lore entries and when we actually see them in-game.

    i am absolutely sure someone in a writer's meeting was like

    hey i have this cool idea for an edgy new character

    and they were like yes this is a good idea

    and i get severe second-hand embarrassment about it

    Having a guy who got resurrected by the Traveler and immediately hared off to the outer system looking for adventure and using any power he could put his hands on is a pretty cool idea within the space of Destiny history. Said guy ending up being called 'The Drifter' by people who hear about him and occasionally interact with him but don't know him is fine.

    Having that guy show up and set up shop in the Tower to get Guardians to harvest Darkness for him is interesting.

    Making that guy call himself *edgy voice*The Drifter...brother*/edgy voice* in between cheerfully exhorting you to be a 'bad guy' by doing the same thing you've been doing for the last 5 years is dumb and seems like the usual sort of "this thing someone came up for the back story" to "this guy in the actual game" transition that occurs.
    Like Osiris and Brother Vance.

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