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[Magic] Arena in open beta! Ultimate Masters releases Dec 7!

jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
edited November 5 in Singularity Engine++
Magic: the Gathering, everyone's favorite fine luxury cardboard, is now trying to cut into Hearthstone's market. Download the Magic Arena open beta here!

Wizards did two notable things today:

Ravnica Allegiance will feature "collector's packs" at select retailers in the USA and Japan. These packs retail for $12.99 will contain 15 cards: 10 uncommons, 3 rares/mythic rares, 2 premium foils (random, any rarity).

Wizards sent out a letter to apparently anyone that attempted to/successfully ordered a Ravnica Masters booster box from the Hasbro web store. The letter contained an "Ultimate Box Topper" pack that contained a foil, extended art promo card in a new frame. Some people got promos of cards worth $100 in their normal versions, other got $1 rares. Wizards will announce the deal with these Box Topper packs next Monday (11/5/18). Here's a twitter thread that contains images of some of the promos (40 in the whole promo set):



Edit: Should probably also mention that Penny Arcade has their own Magic show, The Magic Hour, where the guys play Magic against a special guest:

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited November 3
    Oh, thanks OP! Answered my Q! Was wondering what this UMA thing on reddit was...

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  • milskimilski Their Will comes, at last, to Earth, to the Neath, as a storm crosses the sea. Registered User regular
    4-0 at FNM tonight with Selesnya tokens! And I ended up with three copies of the promo Conclave Tribunal, so I can bling out my deck some

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
  • Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    So I feel like the obvious conclusion is that Ultimate Masters is the next masters set, and these are promo versions of cards already in the set. And you get these either by:

    A) Opening them like masterpieces, which would be fine as long as the normal versions are in the set
    B) Buying a box. Which is kinda boring and completely irrelevant to someone like me who never buys boxes, but would triple the supply at least. This seems like the more likely option given the "Box Topper" labeling.

    Also the art on some of these is really great. Like, here's the old art for Dark Depths, and here's the new art. Same scene, different angle!

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Opened the vault for the first time since MTGA went open beta. Didn't take quite as long as I assumed, but it's also not a huge reward.

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited November 5
    Ultimate Masters stream is happening now, it's a full 254 card Masters set coming December 7th. The Ultimate Box Toppers are promo packs that will come with boxes of Ultimate Masters, there are regular frame versions of the promos in the set.

    Edit: The set will be priced at $335.76/box MSRP from your LGS, big box retailers will have 3 pack blisters for $34.99. Only full booster boxes come with the Ultimate Box Topper pack.

    Karn Liberated was the last unknown box topper promo.

    This the last Masters set "for a while."

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know Texas booniesRegistered User regular
    Wew lad. $14 per pack? Really?

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    pretty standard for Masters sets

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know Texas booniesRegistered User regular
    It really isn't! The first was $7! Then they bumped it to $10 and people were grumbling THEN!

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    It is quite a bit, although the EV seems to at least be higher than the last few Masters sets. Won't know for sure until the whole spoiler is released of course.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    never seen a masters sell for msrp

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I saw Masters 25 blisters at Target pretty regularly.

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  • milskimilski Their Will comes, at last, to Earth, to the Neath, as a storm crosses the sea. Registered User regular
    All of the BAB promos are sweet but the crappy manlands are kinda crappy

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    The announcement article on the mothership states that "we're shelving the Masters series for the foreseeable future. We are instead focusing on other products that will also include reprints."

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    The announcement article on the mothership states that "we're shelving the Masters series for the foreseeable future. We are instead focusing on other products that will also include reprints."

    Read: Battlebond, Conspiracy, etc.

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  • Lord PalingtonLord Palington Registered User regular
    I will take all of the Conspiracy sets they would like to print, please.

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  • The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    conspiracy and battlebond are much better ideas than masters sets

    i really wish wotc would just reprint everything and destroy the secondary market, at this point

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  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    i really wish wotc would just reprint everything and destroy the secondary market, at this point
    Wait, I need to find and sell my dual lands, first.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    eat the capitalist

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  • BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    eat the capitalist

    That's it, I'm voting Republican tomorrow because of this attack.

    And I live in Arizona.

    /s

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    conspiracy and battlebond are much better ideas than masters sets

    i really wish wotc would just reprint everything and destroy the secondary market, at this point

    I wish I cared about any of the supplemental stuff like Battlebond or Conspiracy.

    I wish I still knew what it was like to experience fun.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    a median standard deck costs like $200 so i don't know if this is the hobby for that meme

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    a median standard deck costs like $200 so i don't know if this is the hobby for that meme

    I mean a product with a $335 MSRP was announced today so...

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    This Standard format is pretty affordable all things considered. The mono-blue deck Gabriel Nassif took to 2nd place at GP Lille averages $73 to build from scratch. Even the most expensive decks aren't as bad as some historical ones, we're talking like $5-600 tops. The mean cost of a deck in the top 8 of GP New Jersey was $450.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Don't let the bells end Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    a median standard deck costs like $200 so i don't know if this is the hobby for that meme

    I mean a product with a $335 MSRP was announced today so...

    i know and i respect people who are frustrated that price of things go up

    but also this is such a nakedly, transparently capitalist game that i struggle to raise my eyebrows at this particular product

    like why would they not

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I actually think it's possible that $335 is still low enough to turn a profit on singles. It'll depend on the full set list and whether or not it affects single prices in any significant way, but there are a lot of really high value cards in the set.

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  • E.CoyoteE.Coyote Registered User regular
    Ancient tomb has dropped by ~$8 since the box topper was spoiled, been looking to pick up another copy for edh.

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited November 5
    E.Coyote wrote: »
    Ancient tomb has dropped by ~$8 since the box topper was spoiled, been looking to pick up another copy for edh.

    Where are you looking at pricing? There are hardly any sold eBay listings since the box toppers were first opened on Friday one sold for $26 and another mint one was BIN'd for $41. MTG Goldfish's tracker doesn't show a sharp decline yet.

    Edit: I bought 4 last month for between $36 and $40 for minty ones.

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  • Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    For once I hate this "And it's out tomorrow!" gimmick. I'm already trying to budget for Christmas... and Smash Bros... But I CAN'T sleep on this chance to buy my Noble Hierarchs.

  • E.CoyoteE.Coyote Registered User regular
    edited November 5
    Was looking at the lowest current ebay BiN prices, saw $32 earlier. Last time I was looking they were ~40 listed.
    edit:looks like that one was re-listed for 32.99.

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  • AntoshkaAntoshka Miauen Oil Change LazarusRegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    I actually think it's possible that $335 is still low enough to turn a profit on singles. It'll depend on the full set list and whether or not it affects single prices in any significant way, but there are a lot of really high value cards in the set.

    Talking to LGS in NZ, it's looking like that's going to translate to roughly ~$600 NZD per box (~1.25 PS4 consoles), and most are not looking at selling single boosters at this time, so I'm guessing uptake from retailers here is going to be limited.

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  • Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Wait this set has 20 mythics? Is that how Masters sets work?

  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    collectible card games are just as bald-faced gambling as loot boxes are and should be legislated as such

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    collectible card games are just as bald-faced gambling as loot boxes are and should be legislated as such

    This take burned off my eyebrows

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited November 6
    Wait this set has 20 mythics? Is that how Masters sets work?

    Nope, 20 I guess. The last couple had 15 but I guess they upped it.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    collectible card games are just as bald-faced gambling as loot boxes are and should be legislated as such

    This take burned off my eyebrows

    hope you enjoy going to the card store and spending three hundred dollars on 4 slices of teferi cardboard

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  • StericaSterica Registered User, Moderator mod
    LCGs should be the standard, but it won’t happen.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    LCGs should be the standard, but it won’t happen.

    the biggest LCG just died

    granted it was licensing, but rip

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