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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Bobble wrote: »
    Well there are two versions here: The Minecraft version of You can buy and play the game now, but it's "Early Access" and technically not released yet and then there's what some MMOs did for a while (SWTOR launch had this for sure) with Deluxe Edition/Pre-order gets access two days before the broader release.

    I forget. Were MMO launches no longer guaranteed disasters by that point?

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    I can’t tell if my husband is ignoring my texts or just fell asleep. Given that it’s his first day back on land I bet he conked out.

    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud on
  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Bobble wrote: »
    Well there are two versions here: The Minecraft version of You can buy and play the game now, but it's "Early Access" and technically not released yet and then there's what some MMOs did for a while (SWTOR launch had this for sure) with Deluxe Edition/Pre-order gets access two days before the broader release.

    I forget. Were MMO launches no longer guaranteed disasters by that point?

    That was after WoW's launch, so I'm pretty sure disaster was assumed by the genre-savvy. It's the earliest case I can think of off the top of my head.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    web dev people are the blurst

    I swear these fuckers don't even look at the licence before going all npm install (or yarn if they're hipsters)

    As somebody whose development skills are 90% web-dev, I can confirm

    I crabfabbed a lot of coding and made a lot of stuff that just worked without any real CS background.

    I like to think that my stuff isn't terrible and doesn't make actual devs run away screaming, but the fact that I could actually make money doing it without knowing anything about design patterns or best coding practices beyond what I've learned from Google is indicative of something

    We all crabfabb and look at stack overflow constantly.

    I've been learning webdev stuff the last few weeks so crabfabbing and stackoverflow is very much me as well lately

    JS in particular has so many stupid "gotchas!" that you almost need to unless you're doing it all day every day.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Bobble wrote: »
    Well there are two versions here: The Minecraft version of You can buy and play the game now, but it's "Early Access" and technically not released yet and then there's what some MMOs did for a while (SWTOR launch had this for sure) with Deluxe Edition/Pre-order gets access two days before the broader release.

    I forget. Were MMO launches no longer guaranteed disasters by that point?

    SWTOR at least had several beta weekends in the run up to launch, which was enough to get to level 20 or so and see if it was going to click for you. Admittedly one of the most story-interactive dungeon in the base game was coincidentally the very first, so it was definitely weighted to make a good impression, much like The Deadmines stuck in the memory of many a lapsed WoW subscriber.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.

    Next up: Fallout 76.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    What started the "get the full game early if you pay a bunch more money" trend? I need to know who to hate to death.

    Minecraft and Rust are the ones I remember that had a "buy a cheap alpha version to avoid paying lots of money for the full released version"

    There were a few free-beta games before that though, none quite as successful as Minecraft and Rust.

    I paid, I think, five dollars for Minecraft

    It was a thing where you could remove and place textures blocks in this little limited map

    Man was it ever fun to be along for the ride and see it grow

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    web dev people are the blurst

    I swear these fuckers don't even look at the licence before going all npm install (or yarn if they're hipsters)

    We audited the licenses of every single third-party package we use in stuff when we did an investment round.

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
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    Abdhyius wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    What started the "get the full game early if you pay a bunch more money" trend? I need to know who to hate to death.

    Minecraft and Rust are the ones I remember that had a "buy a cheap alpha version to avoid paying lots of money for the full released version"

    There were a few free-beta games before that though, none quite as successful as Minecraft and Rust.

    I paid, I think, five dollars for Minecraft

    It was a thing where you could remove and place textures blocks in this little limited map

    Man was it ever fun to be along for the ride and see it grow
    is there a way to track down my original alpha purchase? It’s super expensive now but I deffo bought it for five bucks.

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    web dev people are the blurst

    I swear these fuckers don't even look at the licence before going all npm install (or yarn if they're hipsters)

    As somebody whose development skills are 90% web-dev, I can confirm

    I crabfabbed a lot of coding and made a lot of stuff that just worked without any real CS background.

    I like to think that my stuff isn't terrible and doesn't make actual devs run away screaming, but the fact that I could actually make money doing it without knowing anything about design patterns or best coding practices beyond what I've learned from Google is indicative of something

    We all crabfabb and look at stack overflow constantly.

    I've been learning webdev stuff the last few weeks so crabfabbing and stackoverflow is very much me as well lately

    At the very least, some basic soft skills transfer over from sysadminning

    Like checking your software licenses before using in production

    Doubly so if it's public-facing. You can get away with running a non-commercial license on an internal server that nobody sees except employees, even though you really aren't supposed to. But definitely not on anything accessible to the public

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    re: my boyfriend is a bear, this appears to be a very lighthearted, cute comic about a girl dating a literal bear. it is framed the way children’s books are, like “my pet dinosaur” or “my uncle is an alien”. It’s a metaphor for dealing with the ups and downs of, and finding joy in, something unconventional that you fell into by birth or coincidence. Living with an aspect of your life that everyone else might not understand and being happy with that.

    Needless to say the social media comments on it are obsessed with whether or not she fucks the bear and how gross that is and can you believe that this book is advocating bestiality bears cannot consent

    Donkey Kong on
    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I like "bounced off" a lot. I think it's a very concise and polite way of saying "that thing you like, I don't like it, but I think I just didn't get it, and it's okay that you like it"

    This is a really good way of putting it.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    Feral wrote: »
    I like "bounced off" a lot. I think it's a very concise and polite way of saying "that thing you like, I don't like it, but I think I just didn't get it, and it's okay that you like it"

    This is a really good way of putting it.

    But the opposite would be "I bounced on the thing" which sounds... well... :winky:

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    re: my boyfriend is a bear, this appears to be a very lighthearted, cute comic about a girl dating a literal bear. it is framed like the way children’s books are, like “my pet dinosaur” or “my uncle is an alien”. It’s more a metaphor for dealing with the ups and downs, and finding joy in something unconventional that you fell into by birth or coincidence. Living with an aspect of your life that everyone else might not understand and being happy with that.

    Needless to say the social media comments on it are obsessed with whether or not she fucks the bear and how gross that is and can you believe that this book is advocating bestiality bears cannot consent
    When will he be ur husbear tho

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    re: my boyfriend is a bear, this appears to be a very lighthearted, cute comic about a girl dating a literal bear. it is framed like the way children’s books are, like “my pet dinosaur” or “my uncle is an alien”. It’s more a metaphor for dealing with the ups and downs, and finding joy in something unconventional that you fell into by birth or coincidence. Living with an aspect of your life that everyone else might not understand and being happy with that.

    Needless to say the social media comments on it are obsessed with whether or not she fucks the bear and how gross that is and can you believe that this book is advocating bestiality bears cannot consent

    That bear is clearly sentient.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

    Well depends on what you mean by MMO. Like the Division had a stable launch, it wasn't a traditional MMO, more like a destiny, both destiny 1 and 2 had stable launches.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

    Well depends on what you mean by MMO. Like the Division had a stable launch, it wasn't a traditional MMO, more like a destiny, both destiny 1 and 2 had stable launches.
    Fair point. I’m thinking EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, SWTOR, GW2

  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    you guys think she fucks the bear tho

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • NecoNeco In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    you guys think she fucks the bear tho

    Of course not, the bear is obviously gay

  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    web dev people are the blurst

    I swear these fuckers don't even look at the licence before going all npm install (or yarn if they're hipsters)

    As somebody whose development skills are 90% web-dev, I can confirm

    I crabfabbed a lot of coding and made a lot of stuff that just worked without any real CS background.

    I like to think that my stuff isn't terrible and doesn't make actual devs run away screaming, but the fact that I could actually make money doing it without knowing anything about design patterns or best coding practices beyond what I've learned from Google is indicative of something

    We all crabfabb and look at stack overflow constantly.

    I've been learning webdev stuff the last few weeks so crabfabbing and stackoverflow is very much me as well lately

    JS in particular has so many stupid "gotchas!" that you almost need to unless you're doing it all day every day.

    I've done JS before and got well used to it's weirdness. And ECMA 6 and Typescript and Lint has made it much less crude. But still it's pretty frustrating at times.

    Honestly the thing that has been bothering me the most has been having only one kind of Number (which is a 64 bit "double" floating point under the hood). I want my uint32_t and uint64_t damnit!

    Attacked by tweeeeeeees!
  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.
    COH and COV didn't really go down during launch. I remember playing both of those right at the get go and there were some lag and collision issues, but nothing major and the game was playable and quite accessible. I was more shocked about that than anything, because I generally played all the MMOs at launch during those days, and it was super terrible...but there were also some bugs that let you get ahead of the level curve...

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Skeletons are great.

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Oh yeah I guess CoH was a clean launch. That was such a fun game.

  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    I think a bear can give consent, and remove consent by literally killing you

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

    Well depends on what you mean by MMO. Like the Division had a stable launch, it wasn't a traditional MMO, more like a destiny, both destiny 1 and 2 had stable launches.
    Fair point. I’m thinking EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, SWTOR, GW2

    I vaguely recalled SWTOR having a pretty stable launch. Or at least my server.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

    Well depends on what you mean by MMO. Like the Division had a stable launch, it wasn't a traditional MMO, more like a destiny, both destiny 1 and 2 had stable launches.
    Fair point. I’m thinking EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, SWTOR, GW2

    I vaguely recalled SWTOR having a pretty stable launch. Or at least my server.
    I remember it going down early during release but could have been server dependent.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Oh yeah I guess CoH was a clean launch. That was such a fun game.
    Yeah, I had a lot of fun playing that. That game had an end game content problem, but getting to end game was a blast.

  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    buddy, they won't even let me fuck the bear

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

    Well depends on what you mean by MMO. Like the Division had a stable launch, it wasn't a traditional MMO, more like a destiny, both destiny 1 and 2 had stable launches.
    Fair point. I’m thinking EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, SWTOR, GW2

    I vaguely recalled SWTOR having a pretty stable launch. Or at least my server.
    I remember it going down early during release but could have been server dependent.
    Also they had like 40 minute to an hour line, to get in, and that is down in my mind.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    You still have games that launch shitty or "unprepared" but for the most part most multiplayer games have realized outside of an activision/blizzard joint, if your launch crashes so will your game.
    I can’t think of a single mmo who didn’t go down during launch despite stress testing.

    Well depends on what you mean by MMO. Like the Division had a stable launch, it wasn't a traditional MMO, more like a destiny, both destiny 1 and 2 had stable launches.
    Fair point. I’m thinking EQ2, FFXI, FFXIV, SWTOR, GW2

    I vaguely recalled SWTOR having a pretty stable launch. Or at least my server.
    I remember it going down early during release but could have been server dependent.

    Probably. I got screwed by gamestop on early release. Like I preordered well in advance but never got my early access. I think that was the last PC game I ever preordered from game stop.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Elder Scrolls Online had a good launch from a technical point of view. I didn't resub after the free month that it came with but there wasn't any problem logging in or such from what I saw.

    Attacked by tweeeeeeees!
  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Leave that human woman and her boyfriend in peace.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Leave that human woman and her boyfriend bearfriend in peace.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Geth give both of the chat threads to preacher

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    I had an interview a week or so ago that made me so angry.

    It was a phone interview for a data science job and the guy was asking me questions like "What are the four principles of Object Oriented Programming" and some really detailed questions about statistics formulas that I knew when I was in school but would need to look over my notes to remember now. At some point I was taking some time to think about something and he went "I hope you're not Googling any of this" which really set me off (not literally, I was very polite). First of all, fucking rude. Second of all, if your questions can all be easily answered with a quick Google, they're probably not great interview questions! I'm going to have Google at my job! Ask me questions that make me demonstrate understanding of concepts, not stuff you memorize by rote.

    Dude was a statistics PhD so he really cared about the theoretical math behind things, and like....that's not really my job as a data scientist? And if I need them, again, I can just look them up!

    I was really excited about that job too, fucking annoying.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited November 2018
    City of Heroes was years ahead of its time in about thirty different ways but it wasn't a Skinner box so it had to die :[

    Jacobkosh on
  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Geth give both of the chat threads to casual eddy

  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I like "bounced off" a lot. I think it's a very concise and polite way of saying "that thing you like, I don't like it, but I think I just didn't get it, and it's okay that you like it"

    This is a really good way of putting it.

    But the opposite would be "I bounced on the thing" which sounds... well... :winky:

    still works

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