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Lots of rosterpocalypse rumors flying now.
Glaurung and Vin are going from Tempo Storm to Endemic. (As I guessed) Fan is also leaving TS and will join HHE, likely taking Homi's spot. Kure is officially off of Endemic.
@Knight_ will be happy to know that we destroyed a Cho'gall cheese team in team league. This happened despite us forgetting that hero swaps aren't possible in TL and one of our players had to figure out Tychus without ever playing him before. We punished them early game, took the dragon knight and snowballed to a level lead.
I'm 2-0 with Mephisto. I have no idea what I'm doing.
Tried the Q build, but I suck at aiming and haven't completed the level 1 quest yet. Currently I just E/W/Q on the way out. Gonna try the W build this time. Also, his ult is hot bullshit. Better than Nova's Orbital Strike ult in just about every way except cooldown.
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Is there like a point at which you internalize Zeratul or something??? I feel like his curve is a lot steeper than what I remember Tracer's...It feels like his early game is just total shit up until you get Wormhole and later on more Cleave talents.
Maybe his burden of execution is a bit higher or something? I stopped playing Tracer consistently after a last season and Genji a bit earlier before that, though I think I might go back to those types of heroes to have a bit more flexibility in draft modes.
I think I have to get more used to weaving in autos, using Vorpal and picking engages, so I'm definitely still early on in relearning the hero.
Is there like a point at which you internalize Zeratul or something??? I feel like his curve is a lot steeper than what I remember Tracer's...It feels like his early game is just total shit up until you get Wormhole and later on more Cleave talents.
Maybe his burden of execution is a bit higher or something? I stopped playing Tracer consistently after a last season and Genji a bit earlier before that, though I think I might go back to those types of heroes to have a bit more flexibility in draft modes.
I think I have to get more used to weaving in autos, using Vorpal and picking engages, so I'm definitely still early on in relearning the hero.
Early game zera I usually don't think about going for kills but just fast clearing a wave no one is near, and maybe unmounting someone who has to rotate to clear it.
He is all about playing for the late game and setup potential if you have it
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Zeratul is tough to play well and really only starts destroying teams once he hits 16.
I guess I'll have to watch some videos of Zera play and maybe just be a bit more conservative early on. I'm used to Genji and Tracer who have the tools available to shark for kills early on.
It felt a lot better to play Genji with an on-release modifier (the shift key) so that I could aim Swift Strike easier. I'm still fucking awful at aiming Xstrike though. I feel like I should just yolo with Dragonblade and hope for the best.
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I really resent the "play 3 Specialist" quest now that the role is going away. I don't like most of the specialists, and don't wanna just buy Syl until her rework is done.
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I really resent the "play 3 Specialist" quest now that the role is going away. I don't like most of the specialists, and don't wanna just buy Syl until her rework is done.
Play 3 games of draft. It counts whatever you play towards those quests when you do.
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I really resent the "play 3 Specialist" quest now that the role is going away. I don't like most of the specialists, and don't wanna just buy Syl until her rework is done.
Sylvanas is already a ridiculous DoT mage assassin. For proof, just watch any of the vods of our forum tournaments where I'm allowed to play Sylvanas.
The current brawl also categorizes heroes by the current 4 categories. I wonder if they'll remember to update the brawl in 2019 if it ever shows up again.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I really resent the "play 3 Specialist" quest now that the role is going away. I don't like most of the specialists, and don't wanna just buy Syl until her rework is done.
Sylvanas is already a ridiculous DoT mage assassin. For proof, just watch any of the vods of our forum tournaments where I'm allowed to play Sylvanas.
Says the masters level Sylvanas : P
By the way, whatever happened to starting the next tourney up?
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I really resent the "play 3 Specialist" quest now that the role is going away. I don't like most of the specialists, and don't wanna just buy Syl until her rework is done.
Sylvanas is already a ridiculous DoT mage assassin. For proof, just watch any of the vods of our forum tournaments where I'm allowed to play Sylvanas.
Says the masters level Sylvanas : P
By the way, whatever happened to starting the next tourney up?
I really resent the "play 3 Specialist" quest now that the role is going away. I don't like most of the specialists, and don't wanna just buy Syl until her rework is done.
Sylvanas is already a ridiculous DoT mage assassin. For proof, just watch any of the vods of our forum tournaments where I'm allowed to play Sylvanas.
Says the masters level Sylvanas : P
no but she is tho
that's the secret to sylv, everyone says she's only good at being a force multiplier but she shits out damage like nobody's business
edit: and yeah i took fukken possession that game get on my level that shit's legit DON'T @ ME
Possession ends up being really good in the long run if your team loses one or more keeps. It's cool that she has an anti-snowball talent, but man I personally have a very hard time picking anything but Barbed Shot. It helps so much for mercing, boss killing, clearing lanes, etc.
However, the 2019 gameplay changes are going to secretly buff the shit out of possession once catapults start spawning from fort kills. Sylv is gonna be yoinking catapults all game.
how does the c cap exist blizzard why are you so bad at making video games please god
a cap: no conveyor belts, good
b cap: conveyor belts, but they're around the edges and don't come into the cap area but make for interesting escapes and stuff, good
c cap: LITERALLY HALF OF THE CAP IS CONVEYOR BELTS AND IT'S A FUCKING DISASTER AREA AND THE CAP ONLY DECIDES WHO WINS THE GAME 90% OF THE TIME WHAT COULD GO WRONG.
No offense, but you can't provide the bold and CAPITALIZATION required to make me understand the character.
j/k
If you're willing, show some protips my way.
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I think Munkus has spent more posts insisting Meph is OP than Dibby has so you probably want his writeup.
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How you are gonna play mephisto depends pretty big on what level 1 talent you go. Your big choices are Missile or Spell Damage, and each one is viable in its own way. It will just depend on your playstyle.
With spell damage, your focus is going to be on the Consume Soul ult and in getting good dive engages/retreats. You can launch your Q and then teleport, thanks to the changes to spellpower, to maximize your potential. And you are gonna only want to use the ult after you have teleported out of danger. It's huge damage for free.
With the Q route your focus in talents is gonna be getting consistent damage from your Q and landing yo shit. You want durance of hate as your ult going this route, so you can root fuckers in place and get big stacks from your W and massive Q resets from hitting people in the huge root. This approach works really well with a wombo comp or some kind of displacement, like Gary of Maiev, so you can assure you hit more people with Durance. The level 20 upgrade to Durance is also fuckin brutal.
General tips lines up with knowing the reach of your W. Which also tends to be your max AA range. You need to get a feel for exactly how big the circle is so you can just E to the perfect spot to hit 2-3 people with it. Then shake waggle and boom your way to line up those stacks. Mephisto's whole thing is getting resets from using his abilities, so if you can't land the Q->E->W consistently you are gonna have some issues. (you also want to launch the Q before the E and already be Eing in the right spot in order to get the reset from your Q to affect your E). This is true regardless of which build you go, though with the Q build you have a lot more leniency on when to use it, since the CD is so low. It's also important to know how to go E-W because you have to take the shield on W talent, and getting the most damage from that keeps you safe.
Always keep in mind where your shade return point is at, because a lot of characters can punish the shit out of it. You might need to be way in the backline in order to use it at all against say, a tyrande. And KT's will absolutely punish you for a teleport in an unsafe spot. They also love to drop living bombs on you and have you spread it when you go back to your team.
So talents. Two talents are always the same: You take shield from W at 4 and Armor on E at 7.
Spell damage at 1 wants the heroic reduction at 13 and the % health done at 16 and the ult reset at 20.
Q build wants spell damage from Q at 13 extended W at 16 and improved Durance at 20.
Keep in mind that Mephisto is not an early game character. He is very, very late game. It isn't until either you finish your Q quest or hit 10-13 that he really shines. He can do lanes, barely, by using his W on the minions and then a Q. That's usually enough to finish a lane, but because there were no heroes everything is on max CD. Spell damage has a HUGE boost at 20 from the Ult resets. You can literally win games off that. Likewise, landing a level 20 durance is generally GG. You land the durance, hit your Q then W and extend it, just sit there and get to max damage from all the rooted assholes, and win.
If you go spell damage you need to have good map awareness. Ask your team to help you. Because you can mean the difference in a fight even at the spawn point. A E-R at the right moment and you have deleted retreating heroes. I can't tell you how many times I have won an engage while not being at the engage because E->R is so much fucking damage.
So yeah.
The biggest thing is going to be awareness. Awareness of the map, awareness of how to land your E->Ws, just constant awareness. It can take a while to get used to your W range, but that's how you win. Also know that while your E will return you, you can use it defensively to hit a well and re-engage. But almost always use it offensively or, in a pinch when you are gonna die, get into a position to W.
EDIT: One last thing. Your E teleport does not interrupt your casts, but it will interrupt any map objective you are trying to channel.
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That's mephisto, baby
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Well shit @MNC Dover I doubt you want my writeup now after Munkus's, haha. But I'll give you mine anyway since I do rock a different build, and it's one I find highly effective and versatile.
The first thing about this build you'll notice is different is, well, everything. I take a different level 1, 16, and 20 (and level 7, but that depends and I'll touch on that in a hot sec). RIGHT THEN:
- Level 1: Furious Spark. This talent is fucking bananas and I didn't really "get" this one until I tried it. This talent offers four distinct benefits: Waveclear, Burst, Siege, and Mercing. The Mercing doesn't really come into play until later though. It also contributes to a larger Static Barrier, but that doesn't matter as much as the first three. So let's talk Waveclear (level 1):
This is baseline waveclear, hitting Q as they come in and then W-ing to hit the Archers. Still a bit of health left, you have to sit there and auto.
This is Furious Spark. All three Archers melted, Mage halfway dead. It doesn't seem like much but it saves you quite a bit of time.
Ain't gonna show off Spell Power talent cause that's really awkward to actually utilize for waveclear *shruggg*
There's a certain sweet spot you can hit that'll nail the Mage+Archers but it's difficult due to W's hitbox, so often just hitting the Archers is fine. Note that you also can't always Q the wave as it's coming in, in which case Furious Spark does gain more value that way.
Next I want to talk burst (level 20 damage, single target, assuming EVERY tick lands):
Baseline W DPS, no Q or AAs.
Malicious Intent (spell power) W DPS, no Q or AAs.
Furious Spark W DPS, no Q or AAs.
Granted Malicious Intent provides benefits for aaaaaall your abilities including your Ult, but Furious Spark at the very least provides the most W damage straight up. Also considering that you might not always land every single tick? Furious Spark provides some extremely good benefit.
But wait, what about multiple targets, where Mephisto shines?
Baseline 3 targets.
Malicious Intent 3 targets (subtract 343 damage for the Teleport+1 AA because I couldn't NOT hit the single target dummy with E and one AA before issuing a hold command)
Furious fucking Spark 3 targets.
Speaks for itself. It is by far the highest burst potential.
anyway rest of the build:
- Level 4 is Static Barrier, always. This is what makes Meph broken.
- Level 7 is a toss up! Grab the Armor only if you need it, OR you can take Trickery instead. I've been taking Trickery a lot and loving it, the movespeed not only helps you stay on target, but also helps you escape afterward. Goes without saying that if the enemy team has Slows/Roots you also take Trickery. But if you're finding that you're not getting focused much or you just don't need the Armor, try Trickery. But if the enemy has a telegraphed Ult or something where you can use Armor to reduce the damage, by all means.
- Consume Souls at 10, or Durance if enemy comp permits. It's actually not bad now. Punishes divers and melee heavy teams.
- Level 13 can be Hysteria if you ABSOLUTELY need your Ult up for every teamfight, OR you can grab Abhorred Skull for some extra damage instead. This will also beef up your Ult in place of not taking Malicious Intent at 1! This is a judgement call you have to make for yourself, you've got 13 levels to figure out if you need your Ult up all the time or not. THAT SAID, I do usually lean towards Hysteria anyway, but keep in mind since you can't buff it with Spell Power, it has a bit less value to it.
- Level 16 is the other big change. Fuckin, let me tell you about my boy ANIMOSITY. This is a 15 second activatable cd that doubles W's duration and thus doubles the DPS. Guess what: This shit has MAD FUCKIN' SYNERGY with Furious Spark. You get a potential TWO extra sparks with this. And what does Animosity look like with Furious Spark?
Orgasmic, that's what.
Now you're never gonna really land EVERY single fucking hit on 3 targets for the entire 5 seconds, but it's just an example of the ridiculous potential this talent has. I didn't even include the extra passive damage you get from AAing (whispers ~13000 on 3). Other tests: Baseline Animosity on ST = 3320, Animosity+AAs = 4781. Weave in those fucking autos.
Anyway, the other cool thing Animosity does is let you solo any stationary Merc camp. Ones that walk up to you UH OH NO BUENO, but anything else melts. Animosity also provides INSANE siege damage.
(Someone might ask "buh why merc at 16 nuhh no value" because I play QM and you don't always have a mercer and mercs are valuable at all points in the game ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN DO EM REAL FAST >:OOOO )
- Level 20 we take Mephisto's ACTUAL BEST TALENT, fucking Mimic. Wowee zowee this shit is fucking lowkey broken and no one picks it because ohmuhguh Ult Reset!! But this shit is fucking insane. Double your DPS every single time. Roll Shields FOREVER. Cooldowns? WHAT'RE THOSE. It's a bit difficult to really do on the target dummies BUT this is what it looks like if you hit all three for the entire duration with Spark with Animosity with Mimic:
Mmmmm
Granted it won't look like this in actual real team fights. Mimic is mostly used to create a zoning tool and trap/pinch people between the Novas, it still does a RIDICULOUS amount of damage. You warp behind/into people and there's two Novas going off and you do SO much damage and gain RIDICULOUS shields.
Mimic is love, Mimic is life.
ANYWAY DOVER that's my build! I'd recommend Munkus's over mine for learning him since I think mine is a bit harder to play. But try it out, you might like it~
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Yeah, the reason I don't go Dibby's build (I have tried it a few times) is because it isn't as consistent as the other two I listed. It is more damage in theory, but it's hard to pull that off in practice. Unless you are getting a lot of W hits (and I do mean an absolute obscene amount, to the point where you can basically recast W and E while still using W and E) it is probably safer to use the builds I listed. Of note that Dibby's build does mean you can do more damage in PvE....but the Q build does pretty high PvE damage while being a bit safer, by giving you a lower CD high damage ability.
One last bit of advice that I forgot: the shield on W talent. It only applies the shield after the W finishes casting, so if you take the ability that extends your W, you might be accidentally killingyourself if you suddenly get targeted. I would only really use it if A: you have landed a durance B: you are in an extremely safe spot or C: you need to finish someone off fast. Otherwise you might just get blown up.
The nice thing about the W shield is you can also basically tell how well you are performing in engages by how big your shield is : P
(and I take armor every time because in draft people are gonna try to punish the Mephisto pick, and they are gonna wanna focus him down.)
Oh yeah! One last thing. Your teleport engage? That actually does damage that counts toward Lord of Hatred. I have absolutely used it to kill a retreating fool when I had nothing else to use, and you can too!
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Glaurung and Vin are going from Tempo Storm to Endemic. (As I guessed) Fan is also leaving TS and will join HHE, likely taking Homi's spot. Kure is officially off of Endemic.
TS then just pulling in a mix of other players? Not sure I'd have much hope for whomever it is
Almost have really good control and awareness of the banshee now.
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NotParadox has a pretty good tutorial on her, I believe. At work at the moment, otherwise I'd post the YouTube link.
Tried the Q build, but I suck at aiming and haven't completed the level 1 quest yet. Currently I just E/W/Q on the way out. Gonna try the W build this time. Also, his ult is hot bullshit. Better than Nova's Orbital Strike ult in just about every way except cooldown.
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So far I've got - Make sure you use fan on 2 or more heroes.
Spirit blinky thing is a better escape than initiate
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Maybe his burden of execution is a bit higher or something? I stopped playing Tracer consistently after a last season and Genji a bit earlier before that, though I think I might go back to those types of heroes to have a bit more flexibility in draft modes.
I think I have to get more used to weaving in autos, using Vorpal and picking engages, so I'm definitely still early on in relearning the hero.
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And then Genji decides, nah fuck this, I wanna lose.
So he stops grouping. And starts going off on his own. Top lane doing nothing. Dives in 1v5s. Dies. A lot. All the time.
Threw the game sooooooooooo hard.
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Early game zera I usually don't think about going for kills but just fast clearing a wave no one is near, and maybe unmounting someone who has to rotate to clear it.
He is all about playing for the late game and setup potential if you have it
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It felt a lot better to play Genji with an on-release modifier (the shift key) so that I could aim Swift Strike easier. I'm still fucking awful at aiming Xstrike though. I feel like I should just yolo with Dragonblade and hope for the best.
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Play 3 games of draft. It counts whatever you play towards those quests when you do.
Sylvanas is already a ridiculous DoT mage assassin. For proof, just watch any of the vods of our forum tournaments where I'm allowed to play Sylvanas.
Says the masters level Sylvanas : P
By the way, whatever happened to starting the next tourney up?
no but she is tho
that's the secret to sylv, everyone says she's only good at being a force multiplier but she shits out damage like nobody's business
edit: and yeah i took fukken possession that game get on my level that shit's legit DON'T @ ME
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However, the 2019 gameplay changes are going to secretly buff the shit out of possession once catapults start spawning from fort kills. Sylv is gonna be yoinking catapults all game.
a cap: no conveyor belts, good
b cap: conveyor belts, but they're around the edges and don't come into the cap area but make for interesting escapes and stuff, good
c cap: LITERALLY HALF OF THE CAP IS CONVEYOR BELTS AND IT'S A FUCKING DISASTER AREA AND THE CAP ONLY DECIDES WHO WINS THE GAME 90% OF THE TIME WHAT COULD GO WRONG.
fucking stupid.
No offense, but you can't provide the bold and CAPITALIZATION required to make me understand the character.
j/k
If you're willing, show some protips my way.
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I have about a hundred mephisto games under my belt and I have played with and against a big variety of mephisto players.
Yeah, I can do you a writeup.
Tomorrow probably.
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With spell damage, your focus is going to be on the Consume Soul ult and in getting good dive engages/retreats. You can launch your Q and then teleport, thanks to the changes to spellpower, to maximize your potential. And you are gonna only want to use the ult after you have teleported out of danger. It's huge damage for free.
With the Q route your focus in talents is gonna be getting consistent damage from your Q and landing yo shit. You want durance of hate as your ult going this route, so you can root fuckers in place and get big stacks from your W and massive Q resets from hitting people in the huge root. This approach works really well with a wombo comp or some kind of displacement, like Gary of Maiev, so you can assure you hit more people with Durance. The level 20 upgrade to Durance is also fuckin brutal.
General tips lines up with knowing the reach of your W. Which also tends to be your max AA range. You need to get a feel for exactly how big the circle is so you can just E to the perfect spot to hit 2-3 people with it. Then shake waggle and boom your way to line up those stacks. Mephisto's whole thing is getting resets from using his abilities, so if you can't land the Q->E->W consistently you are gonna have some issues. (you also want to launch the Q before the E and already be Eing in the right spot in order to get the reset from your Q to affect your E). This is true regardless of which build you go, though with the Q build you have a lot more leniency on when to use it, since the CD is so low. It's also important to know how to go E-W because you have to take the shield on W talent, and getting the most damage from that keeps you safe.
Always keep in mind where your shade return point is at, because a lot of characters can punish the shit out of it. You might need to be way in the backline in order to use it at all against say, a tyrande. And KT's will absolutely punish you for a teleport in an unsafe spot. They also love to drop living bombs on you and have you spread it when you go back to your team.
So talents. Two talents are always the same: You take shield from W at 4 and Armor on E at 7.
Spell damage at 1 wants the heroic reduction at 13 and the % health done at 16 and the ult reset at 20.
Q build wants spell damage from Q at 13 extended W at 16 and improved Durance at 20.
Keep in mind that Mephisto is not an early game character. He is very, very late game. It isn't until either you finish your Q quest or hit 10-13 that he really shines. He can do lanes, barely, by using his W on the minions and then a Q. That's usually enough to finish a lane, but because there were no heroes everything is on max CD. Spell damage has a HUGE boost at 20 from the Ult resets. You can literally win games off that. Likewise, landing a level 20 durance is generally GG. You land the durance, hit your Q then W and extend it, just sit there and get to max damage from all the rooted assholes, and win.
If you go spell damage you need to have good map awareness. Ask your team to help you. Because you can mean the difference in a fight even at the spawn point. A E-R at the right moment and you have deleted retreating heroes. I can't tell you how many times I have won an engage while not being at the engage because E->R is so much fucking damage.
So yeah.
The biggest thing is going to be awareness. Awareness of the map, awareness of how to land your E->Ws, just constant awareness. It can take a while to get used to your W range, but that's how you win. Also know that while your E will return you, you can use it defensively to hit a well and re-engage. But almost always use it offensively or, in a pinch when you are gonna die, get into a position to W.
EDIT: One last thing. Your E teleport does not interrupt your casts, but it will interrupt any map objective you are trying to channel.
Umm...what just happened?
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SO FIRST UP DA BUILD: https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/mephisto#kYn9
The first thing about this build you'll notice is different is, well, everything. I take a different level 1, 16, and 20 (and level 7, but that depends and I'll touch on that in a hot sec). RIGHT THEN:
- Level 1: Furious Spark. This talent is fucking bananas and I didn't really "get" this one until I tried it. This talent offers four distinct benefits: Waveclear, Burst, Siege, and Mercing. The Mercing doesn't really come into play until later though. It also contributes to a larger Static Barrier, but that doesn't matter as much as the first three. So let's talk Waveclear (level 1):
This is baseline waveclear, hitting Q as they come in and then W-ing to hit the Archers. Still a bit of health left, you have to sit there and auto.
This is Furious Spark. All three Archers melted, Mage halfway dead. It doesn't seem like much but it saves you quite a bit of time.
Ain't gonna show off Spell Power talent cause that's really awkward to actually utilize for waveclear *shruggg*
There's a certain sweet spot you can hit that'll nail the Mage+Archers but it's difficult due to W's hitbox, so often just hitting the Archers is fine. Note that you also can't always Q the wave as it's coming in, in which case Furious Spark does gain more value that way.
Next I want to talk burst (level 20 damage, single target, assuming EVERY tick lands):
Baseline W DPS, no Q or AAs.
Malicious Intent (spell power) W DPS, no Q or AAs.
Furious Spark W DPS, no Q or AAs.
Granted Malicious Intent provides benefits for aaaaaall your abilities including your Ult, but Furious Spark at the very least provides the most W damage straight up. Also considering that you might not always land every single tick? Furious Spark provides some extremely good benefit.
But wait, what about multiple targets, where Mephisto shines?
Baseline 3 targets.
Malicious Intent 3 targets (subtract 343 damage for the Teleport+1 AA because I couldn't NOT hit the single target dummy with E and one AA before issuing a hold command)
Furious fucking Spark 3 targets.
Speaks for itself. It is by far the highest burst potential.
anyway rest of the build:
- Level 4 is Static Barrier, always. This is what makes Meph broken.
- Level 7 is a toss up! Grab the Armor only if you need it, OR you can take Trickery instead. I've been taking Trickery a lot and loving it, the movespeed not only helps you stay on target, but also helps you escape afterward. Goes without saying that if the enemy team has Slows/Roots you also take Trickery. But if you're finding that you're not getting focused much or you just don't need the Armor, try Trickery. But if the enemy has a telegraphed Ult or something where you can use Armor to reduce the damage, by all means.
- Consume Souls at 10, or Durance if enemy comp permits. It's actually not bad now. Punishes divers and melee heavy teams.
- Level 13 can be Hysteria if you ABSOLUTELY need your Ult up for every teamfight, OR you can grab Abhorred Skull for some extra damage instead. This will also beef up your Ult in place of not taking Malicious Intent at 1! This is a judgement call you have to make for yourself, you've got 13 levels to figure out if you need your Ult up all the time or not. THAT SAID, I do usually lean towards Hysteria anyway, but keep in mind since you can't buff it with Spell Power, it has a bit less value to it.
- Level 16 is the other big change. Fuckin, let me tell you about my boy ANIMOSITY. This is a 15 second activatable cd that doubles W's duration and thus doubles the DPS. Guess what: This shit has MAD FUCKIN' SYNERGY with Furious Spark. You get a potential TWO extra sparks with this. And what does Animosity look like with Furious Spark?
Orgasmic, that's what.
Now you're never gonna really land EVERY single fucking hit on 3 targets for the entire 5 seconds, but it's just an example of the ridiculous potential this talent has. I didn't even include the extra passive damage you get from AAing (whispers ~13000 on 3). Other tests: Baseline Animosity on ST = 3320, Animosity+AAs = 4781. Weave in those fucking autos.
Anyway, the other cool thing Animosity does is let you solo any stationary Merc camp. Ones that walk up to you UH OH NO BUENO, but anything else melts. Animosity also provides INSANE siege damage.
(Someone might ask "buh why merc at 16 nuhh no value" because I play QM and you don't always have a mercer and mercs are valuable at all points in the game ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN DO EM REAL FAST >:OOOO )
- Level 20 we take Mephisto's ACTUAL BEST TALENT, fucking Mimic. Wowee zowee this shit is fucking lowkey broken and no one picks it because ohmuhguh Ult Reset!! But this shit is fucking insane. Double your DPS every single time. Roll Shields FOREVER. Cooldowns? WHAT'RE THOSE. It's a bit difficult to really do on the target dummies BUT this is what it looks like if you hit all three for the entire duration with Spark with Animosity with Mimic:
Mmmmm
Granted it won't look like this in actual real team fights. Mimic is mostly used to create a zoning tool and trap/pinch people between the Novas, it still does a RIDICULOUS amount of damage. You warp behind/into people and there's two Novas going off and you do SO much damage and gain RIDICULOUS shields.
Mimic is love, Mimic is life.
ANYWAY DOVER that's my build! I'd recommend Munkus's over mine for learning him since I think mine is a bit harder to play. But try it out, you might like it~
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One last bit of advice that I forgot: the shield on W talent. It only applies the shield after the W finishes casting, so if you take the ability that extends your W, you might be accidentally killingyourself if you suddenly get targeted. I would only really use it if A: you have landed a durance B: you are in an extremely safe spot or C: you need to finish someone off fast. Otherwise you might just get blown up.
The nice thing about the W shield is you can also basically tell how well you are performing in engages by how big your shield is : P
(and I take armor every time because in draft people are gonna try to punish the Mephisto pick, and they are gonna wanna focus him down.)
Oh yeah! One last thing. Your teleport engage? That actually does damage that counts toward Lord of Hatred. I have absolutely used it to kill a retreating fool when I had nothing else to use, and you can too!
i got to take durance today
AND BOY WAS IT FUCKIN' VALUE LMAO
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