I still like KMFDM and some Rammstein stuff. Not so much the others.
Hell's Headbangers is having a $3.33 CD sale, $7.77 for some vinyl, but man the stuff goes fast, as I was readying my order, 7 of the 14 items went out of stock. Mind you this was like 20 minutes after getting the initial notification email for the sale...
Anyways I got a couple gems I had been wanting physical copies for.
Nice! Just got me 13 albums for only 40 bucks.
Thanks for the heads up!
Agatus - The Eternalist Bestiality - Worshipers of Unearthly Perversions Birth Through Gore - The Culmination Conquest Bloodway - Sunstone Voyager and the Clandestine Horizon Coffincraft - In Eerie Slumber Ecferus - Pangaea Epitaph - Sinner Waketh Hæresiarchs of Dis - In Obsecration of the Seven Darks Scythian - Hubris in Excelsis The Swill - Master of Delusion Thrall - Away from the Haunts of Men The Wakedead Gathering - Dark Circles Zemial - Nykta
Also just learned that Bloodway called it quits last year :bigfrown:
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I saw Haunt live tonight. Good show! They mostly played stuff off Burst Into Flame.
The two openers were pretty good too. First up was Hell Fire who delivered some traditional metal with a lot of energy. After that was Idle Hands who were a sort of goth metal. The sound wasn't the best at the venue, but I checked bothbands out on bandcamp and enjoyed what I heard.
I bought a Haunt shirt. The guy selling their stuff at the merch booth was the same guy who sold me their CD at Frost & Fire last year.
Jarvis from Night Demon was there checking out all the bands.
Parking sucked ass.
Anyway, they're doing a west coast tour right now. Check 'em out if you can.
I saw Haunt live tonight. Good show! They mostly played stuff off Burst Into Flame.
The two openers were pretty good too. First up was Hell Fire who delivered some traditional metal with a lot of energy. After that was Idle Hands who were a sort of goth metal. The sound wasn't the best at the venue, but I checked bothbands out on bandcamp and enjoyed what I heard.
I bought a Haunt shirt. The guy selling their stuff at the merch booth was the same guy who sold me their CD at Frost & Fire last year.
Jarvis from Night Demon was there checking out all the bands.
Parking sucked ass.
Anyway, they're doing a west coast tour right now. Check 'em out if you can.
haunt put on a good show
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lads gimme your picks for 2-3 TOP tier cheesy minor key not too djenty metal cheesefests from last 2 years, i need some solid mozzarella to hesh out to
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Do you want good cheese or nasty, stinky, moldy Limburger?
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Jinjers Micro is a quick bit of slithery, proggy nastiness. The melodies and vocal patterns are a lot more solid on this one, the new drummer was a deft addition, and with the exception of what is obviously a neck punch at Christian private schooling ("Teacher, Teacher!") I enjoyed this quite a bit.
Strange seeing a 5 song EP in this day and age, but I'm not mad at it. It definitely shows massive growth from their last album.
Oh, and their bassist Eugene Kostyuk is a fucking monster. One of the best in the business.
The music for Jinjer is alright for chuggressive, but I can't handle the vocals. Kind of the same overbearing metalcore deal I was complaining about on previous pages, trying to sound heavy, but not really sounding heavy or scary or sinister; and the singy parts just sound like every generic Euro sympho-Goth metal band craving a radio chorus. Groups like Nightwish, Elis and The Gathering, love 'em or hate 'em, were just so much more distinct when they had their classic era singers. I think I even like the latest Arch Enemy singer more than that and she ruins those records for me (I'm a Johan purist).
I know I'm in the minority on this, and I'm awful, but I gave it a try and couldn't get past the cringe, not sure what the big deal is.
I think I like this band much, much more, she's got more of an Angela ex-Arch Enemy style, still a little overbearing but the riffs are killer. If you want some chugressive/groove metal stuff with influences everywhere from Pantera to Meshuggah to Nevermore to Voivod to SYL, here you go.
I mean you're usually on point with stuff... But I don't hear a lick of metalcore in their music (the newest stuff anyway).
Well I didn't say the music was metalcore at all, I was referring to the harsh vocals explicitly, so that's alright. Pretty sure the stuff I listened to was 2018.
EDIT: Nope, I stand corrected, it was 2019, brand new.
The music for Jinjer is alright for chuggressive, but I can't handle the vocals. Kind of the same overbearing metalcore deal I was complaining about on previous pages, trying to sound heavy, but not really sounding heavy or scary or sinister; and the singy parts just sound like every generic Euro sympho-Goth metal band craving a radio chorus. Groups like Nightwish, Elis and The Gathering, love 'em or hate 'em, were just so much more distinct when they had their classic era singers. I think I even like the latest Arch Enemy singer more than that and she ruins those records for me (I'm a Johan purist).
Oh, thank goodness, I thought I was alone. My exact thoughts when I hear them.
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I mean the Once Human band is fine, I've heard them before and theyre good if a bit bog standard
But it's not even the same genre so I'm curious as to why it was made as a comparison point?
Actually none of those bands listed are really in the same genre... even the genre listed isn't the kind of music they play
I think you might be misinterpreting my comment, jungle. Maybe the way I wrote it was confusing, so I'm going to try this again...
I was talking strictly about the vocalist for Jinjer, the major reason I'm not into them. Her clean chorus vocals (on this newish stuff at least) are very much similar to a lot of female fronted Euro Gothic metal bands, or stuff like In This Moment and Evanescence, so I feel that is a very valid comparison point. Only the other bands that I named in my earlier post had more distinct vocalists when it came to that. And Jinjer's harsh vocals sound to me like very overbearing generic metalcore/melodeath stuff. I made no other musical comparisons between the Jinjer music and those pure Gothic metal bands, however; of course I don't think The Gathering sounds like Jinjer in terms of instruments. Bands do not need to be in the same sub-genre for me to compare the varying vocals styles they use.
As for Once Human and Jinjer not being comparable...they are both hybrid bands but often play a nearly identical, prog-groove/chugressive metal style with female growling, only the singer in Once Human doesn't use as many clean vocals and Jinjer has some more radio friendly rock parts. But when they are grooving heavily there are clear similarities to the riffing and growling, the two could easily tour together and fans of one would dig the other. Hell, they even share some of the same genres on their Wikipedia listings. I personally prefer Once Human because I remember their riffs a lot longer afterwards, although I do not think Jinjer is all that bad with their own riffing, occasionally they get a Dillinger thing going. But one is no more bog standard than the other, there is nothing unique about the Jinjer vocalist whatsoever, she is not the only emotive growler/singer out there and they are far from the only band that plays that mix of groovy chugging metal, slightly death metal influenced with clean chorus breaks...hell Jinjer could tour with Slipknot and fit right in.
I hope I made more sense this time, if not we will have to settle this by lightsaber!!!
I mean the Once Human band is fine, I've heard them before and theyre good if a bit bog standard
But it's not even the same genre so I'm curious as to why it was made as a comparison point?
Actually none of those bands listed are really in the same genre... even the genre listed isn't the kind of music they play
I think you might be misinterpreting my comment, jungle. Maybe the way I wrote it was confusing, so I'm going to try this again...
I was talking strictly about the vocalist for Jinjer, the major reason I'm not into them. Her clean chorus vocals (on this newish stuff at least) are very much similar to a lot of female fronted Euro Gothic metal bands, or stuff like In This Moment and Evanescence, so I feel that is a very valid comparison point. Only the other bands that I named in my earlier post had more distinct vocalists when it came to that. And Jinjer's harsh vocals sound to me like very overbearing generic metalcore/melodeath stuff. I made no other musical comparisons between the Jinjer music and those pure Gothic metal bands, however; of course I don't think The Gathering sounds like Jinjer in terms of instruments. Bands do not need to be in the same sub-genre for me to compare the varying vocals styles they use.
As for Once Human and Jinjer not being comparable...they are both hybrid bands but often play a nearly identical, prog-groove/chugressive metal style with female growling, only the singer in Once Human doesn't use as many clean vocals and Jinjer has some more radio friendly rock parts. But when they are grooving heavily there are clear similarities to the riffing and growling, the two could easily tour together and fans of one would dig the other. Hell, they even share some of the same genres on their Wikipedia listings. I personally prefer Once Human because I remember their riffs a lot longer afterwards, although I do not think Jinjer is all that bad with their own riffing, occasionally they get a Dillinger thing going. But one is no more bog standard than the other, there is nothing unique about the Jinjer vocalist whatsoever, she is not the only emotive growler/singer out there and they are far from the only band that plays that mix of groovy chugging metal, slightly death metal influenced with clean chorus breaks...hell Jinjer could tour with Slipknot and fit right in.
I hope I made more sense this time, if not we will have to settle this by lightsaber!!!
I mean yeah now I'm following what you're putting down. I'm not sure I agree but I get where you're coming from. I don't really think she's like some godsend unique all fucking new singer, as far as Jinjer goes, but their instrumentation is more my thing. And hot damn is that bassist good. I'd put him up against any bassist still walking this planet, regardless of genre.
But still we should still do the lightsabers because that sounds pretty fucking metal.
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The cashier at the local grocery store recognized my Slugdge hoodie. Then he wanted to tell me all about his Slam metal band. I did tell him to check out the new Necrophobic and Sulphur Aeon.
So Be'lakor is thinking their new album will be done late 2019 or early 2020 with touring to follow including their first US tour. I hope they make it up to Canada too, would love to see them live.
I mean yeah now I'm following what you're putting down. I'm not sure I agree but I get where you're coming from. I don't really think she's like some godsend unique all fucking new singer, as far as Jinjer goes, but their instrumentation is more my thing. And hot damn is that bassist good. I'd put him up against any bassist still walking this planet, regardless of genre.
But still we should still do the lightsabers because that sounds pretty fucking metal.
Sure thing! I'm into the Inquisitor's dark side model from the Rebels cartoon.
And the opener for the Lucifer and Spell show at Indianapolis is Sacred Leather. Never heard of these guys before but I honestly now can't think of a better local band to open the show
I mean yeah now I'm following what you're putting down. I'm not sure I agree but I get where you're coming from. I don't really think she's like some godsend unique all fucking new singer, as far as Jinjer goes, but their instrumentation is more my thing. And hot damn is that bassist good. I'd put him up against any bassist still walking this planet, regardless of genre.
But still we should still do the lightsabers because that sounds pretty fucking metal.
Sure thing! I'm into the Inquisitor's dark side model from the Rebels cartoon.
And yeah, the bassist is pretty good.
I don't know what kind I'd get, but it'd probably be purple because why not?
Anyway, if we were talking about great female vocalists in metal I'd probably start with Floor Jansen or Brittney Hayes for melodic stuff. There's a bunch in the growling department these days as well. I got my female screamer cherry broken with Crisis way back in the day like I imagine a lot of people here did.
The awesome Temple of Mystery label is putting out Trapped Under Ice, a great compilation of underground Canadian bands with ten exclusive tracks. It's mostly heavy metal (Spell, Emblem, Cauchemar (whose members are behind the label), Starlight Ritual, Metalian and Traveler), with also with a dash of hard rock (Freeways (really great band from members of Droid)) and some first-wave black metal (Occult Burial, Barrow Wight (the least nerdy band about Tolkien ever) and Blackrat (more black crust really)).
I've received my die-hard LP last week and it is getting a heavy mileage on the turntable ! Also, we're a few days into a record-breaking cold wave, so the title is particularly appropriate.
Anyway, if we were talking about great female vocalists in metal I'd probably start with Floor Jansen or Brittney Hayes for melodic stuff. There's a bunch in the growling department these days as well. I got my female screamer cherry broken with Crisis way back in the day like I imagine a lot of people here did.
I've seen Crisis a few times live back in the day. Have you heard her latest project Karen Crisis' Gospel of the Witches? Or whatever it's called? Interesting stuff.
For me, before Crisis in extreme 80s female vocals there were:
The compilation was announced late last year with a promo video and the pre-order went up in November or December I think. The LPs went out last week as the actual release is tomorrow I think !
The die-hard is fantastic btw. It came with a full sheet of stickers for all the bands and an actual zine, containing interviews with all the bands.
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the problem i have with most "harsh" (screamed/growled) vox is that broadly you exchange any and all melodic quality for timbre
there are a very small number of vocalists who manage to mix it up - mikael stanne manages to do a respectable growl while still modulating all over the place, devin townsend is obviously extraordinary at hitting notes while also hitting all kinds of textural qualities with his voice - but on the whole, and sadly this is somethign i find especially true for most female harsh vox at the moment, the focus is so much on the aggressive quality that it turns into mostly boring indistinguishable "ah yes the vocalist is doing this now"
broadly i feel like if you are going for that kind of particular quality then just make ridiculous black metal that is basically badly recorded ambient with blastbeats that sounds like somebody pirated it in a norwegian forest circa 1992. otherwise you gotta actually use it for something beyond just "ah this is the kind of vocals we need for this kind of music to get our genre sticker"
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the problem i have with most "harsh" (screamed/growled) vox is that broadly you exchange any and all melodic quality for timbre
there are a very small number of vocalists who manage to mix it up - mikael stanne manages to do a respectable growl while still modulating all over the place, devin townsend is obviously extraordinary at hitting notes while also hitting all kinds of textural qualities with his voice - but on the whole, and sadly this is somethign i find especially true for most female harsh vox at the moment, the focus is so much on the aggressive quality that it turns into mostly boring indistinguishable "ah yes the vocalist is doing this now"
broadly i feel like if you are going for that kind of particular quality then just make ridiculous black metal that is basically badly recorded ambient with blastbeats that sounds like somebody pirated it in a norwegian forest circa 1992. otherwise you gotta actually use it for something beyond just "ah this is the kind of vocals we need for this kind of music to get our genre sticker"
Yeah, I've kind of always felt that with most of the female extreme metal vocalists, they're trying to sound like dudes instead of using their unique characteristics. I think the best vocalist I've heard in recent memory that straddles that line perfectly (for me, anyway) is Zofia from Obscure Sphinx.
Growled/harsh vocals are a universal egalitarian medium for expressing the feelings and ideas inherent to the genre of metal. It's not complicated. What happens if you can't find someone who is an amazing vocal talent? You just don't get to have a band? Fuck that.
Growled/harsh vocals are a universal egalitarian medium for expressing the feelings and ideas inherent to the genre of metal. It's not complicated. What happens if you can't find someone who is an amazing vocal talent? You just don't get to have a band? Fuck that.
the beef i have with it is not its omnipresence (ive been listening to various flavours of metal since the year 1690 its not something that bothers me inherently), but that there are lots of things you can do with it that people do not explore
you can see this with the different types of scream, vocal fry versus hoarse bellows, etc. one of the things that traditionally bothered me about a lot of metalcore, for example, was not that they had harsh sections - but that the harsh sections were the most vanilla boring versions of what you can do with harsh vocal tones!
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Nice! Just got me 13 albums for only 40 bucks.
Thanks for the heads up!
Bestiality - Worshipers of Unearthly Perversions
Birth Through Gore - The Culmination Conquest
Bloodway - Sunstone Voyager and the Clandestine Horizon
Coffincraft - In Eerie Slumber
Ecferus - Pangaea
Epitaph - Sinner Waketh
Hæresiarchs of Dis - In Obsecration of the Seven Darks
Scythian - Hubris in Excelsis
The Swill - Master of Delusion
Thrall - Away from the Haunts of Men
The Wakedead Gathering - Dark Circles
Zemial - Nykta
Also just learned that Bloodway called it quits last year :bigfrown:
Initial listen didn't do much for me.
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https://defacementofficial.bandcamp.com/album/deviant
Solid death from the Netherlands!
The two openers were pretty good too. First up was Hell Fire who delivered some traditional metal with a lot of energy. After that was Idle Hands who were a sort of goth metal. The sound wasn't the best at the venue, but I checked both bands out on bandcamp and enjoyed what I heard.
I bought a Haunt shirt. The guy selling their stuff at the merch booth was the same guy who sold me their CD at Frost & Fire last year.
Jarvis from Night Demon was there checking out all the bands.
Parking sucked ass.
Anyway, they're doing a west coast tour right now. Check 'em out if you can.
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haunt put on a good show
Strange seeing a 5 song EP in this day and age, but I'm not mad at it. It definitely shows massive growth from their last album.
Oh, and their bassist Eugene Kostyuk is a fucking monster. One of the best in the business.
I know I'm in the minority on this, and I'm awful, but I gave it a try and couldn't get past the cringe, not sure what the big deal is.
I think I like this band much, much more, she's got more of an Angela ex-Arch Enemy style, still a little overbearing but the riffs are killer. If you want some chugressive/groove metal stuff with influences everywhere from Pantera to Meshuggah to Nevermore to Voivod to SYL, here you go.
Well I didn't say the music was metalcore at all, I was referring to the harsh vocals explicitly, so that's alright. Pretty sure the stuff I listened to was 2018.
EDIT: Nope, I stand corrected, it was 2019, brand new.
Oh, thank goodness, I thought I was alone. My exact thoughts when I hear them.
ill take any
straight ahead angry death
But it's not even the same genre so I'm curious as to why it was made as a comparison point?
Actually none of those bands listed are really in the same genre... even the genre listed isn't the kind of music they play
total fuckin chaos
Ok. How about dinosaurs with frikkin laser beams.
Some terrible German cheese to balance out the previous.
Frozen Land is some classic 80s Euro throwback.
I think you might be misinterpreting my comment, jungle. Maybe the way I wrote it was confusing, so I'm going to try this again...
I was talking strictly about the vocalist for Jinjer, the major reason I'm not into them. Her clean chorus vocals (on this newish stuff at least) are very much similar to a lot of female fronted Euro Gothic metal bands, or stuff like In This Moment and Evanescence, so I feel that is a very valid comparison point. Only the other bands that I named in my earlier post had more distinct vocalists when it came to that. And Jinjer's harsh vocals sound to me like very overbearing generic metalcore/melodeath stuff. I made no other musical comparisons between the Jinjer music and those pure Gothic metal bands, however; of course I don't think The Gathering sounds like Jinjer in terms of instruments. Bands do not need to be in the same sub-genre for me to compare the varying vocals styles they use.
As for Once Human and Jinjer not being comparable...they are both hybrid bands but often play a nearly identical, prog-groove/chugressive metal style with female growling, only the singer in Once Human doesn't use as many clean vocals and Jinjer has some more radio friendly rock parts. But when they are grooving heavily there are clear similarities to the riffing and growling, the two could easily tour together and fans of one would dig the other. Hell, they even share some of the same genres on their Wikipedia listings. I personally prefer Once Human because I remember their riffs a lot longer afterwards, although I do not think Jinjer is all that bad with their own riffing, occasionally they get a Dillinger thing going. But one is no more bog standard than the other, there is nothing unique about the Jinjer vocalist whatsoever, she is not the only emotive growler/singer out there and they are far from the only band that plays that mix of groovy chugging metal, slightly death metal influenced with clean chorus breaks...hell Jinjer could tour with Slipknot and fit right in.
I hope I made more sense this time, if not we will have to settle this by lightsaber!!!
I missed this too. Madness.
I mean yeah now I'm following what you're putting down. I'm not sure I agree but I get where you're coming from. I don't really think she's like some godsend unique all fucking new singer, as far as Jinjer goes, but their instrumentation is more my thing. And hot damn is that bassist good. I'd put him up against any bassist still walking this planet, regardless of genre.
But still we should still do the lightsabers because that sounds pretty fucking metal.
Sure thing! I'm into the Inquisitor's dark side model from the Rebels cartoon.
And yeah, the bassist is pretty good.
never heard of this band before they are like bay area crust doom violence
there's some big drum tones, but often with that kind of loose loping feel, big doom guitar amp riffs, strangled blackened crust vox
https://bodyvoid.bandcamp.com/
I don't know what kind I'd get, but it'd probably be purple because why not?
Anyway, if we were talking about great female vocalists in metal I'd probably start with Floor Jansen or Brittney Hayes for melodic stuff. There's a bunch in the growling department these days as well. I got my female screamer cherry broken with Crisis way back in the day like I imagine a lot of people here did.
I've received my die-hard LP last week and it is getting a heavy mileage on the turntable ! Also, we're a few days into a record-breaking cold wave, so the title is particularly appropriate.
It's streaming here : https://revolvermag.com/music/hear-ripping-new-canadian-metal-compilation-trapped-under-ice-full
I've seen Crisis a few times live back in the day. Have you heard her latest project Karen Crisis' Gospel of the Witches? Or whatever it's called? Interesting stuff.
For me, before Crisis in extreme 80s female vocals there were:
Nicole Lee
Dawn Crosby
Sabina Classen
Debbie Gunn
And these are some of my favorites, but I'll put up another post for the next wave.
The die-hard is fantastic btw. It came with a full sheet of stickers for all the bands and an actual zine, containing interviews with all the bands.
there are a very small number of vocalists who manage to mix it up - mikael stanne manages to do a respectable growl while still modulating all over the place, devin townsend is obviously extraordinary at hitting notes while also hitting all kinds of textural qualities with his voice - but on the whole, and sadly this is somethign i find especially true for most female harsh vox at the moment, the focus is so much on the aggressive quality that it turns into mostly boring indistinguishable "ah yes the vocalist is doing this now"
broadly i feel like if you are going for that kind of particular quality then just make ridiculous black metal that is basically badly recorded ambient with blastbeats that sounds like somebody pirated it in a norwegian forest circa 1992. otherwise you gotta actually use it for something beyond just "ah this is the kind of vocals we need for this kind of music to get our genre sticker"
Yeah, I've kind of always felt that with most of the female extreme metal vocalists, they're trying to sound like dudes instead of using their unique characteristics. I think the best vocalist I've heard in recent memory that straddles that line perfectly (for me, anyway) is Zofia from Obscure Sphinx.
the beef i have with it is not its omnipresence (ive been listening to various flavours of metal since the year 1690 its not something that bothers me inherently), but that there are lots of things you can do with it that people do not explore
you can see this with the different types of scream, vocal fry versus hoarse bellows, etc. one of the things that traditionally bothered me about a lot of metalcore, for example, was not that they had harsh sections - but that the harsh sections were the most vanilla boring versions of what you can do with harsh vocal tones!