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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ok, I am watching the new Lindsey Ellis video and I just wanted to make one big correction to something she repeats a couple times.

    Satire is not covered under fair use.

    Parody is.

    The difference between the two is extremely unclear if you look at the cases involving parody and satire.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhcq2BUO_T0

    Fun bonus: the ads before and after this video were for the US Concealed Carry Association, and were 100% spreading panic about being arrested for being a white guy with a gun.

    Youtube's ad policies are profoundly fucked.

    During elections, I would routinely get served by YouTube ads from FAIR, an anti-immigration group tracked by the SPLC as a hate group.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    The problem I have with tumblr and porn it showed it a lot of weird fetishes
    Like being stuck or things I don't know how people found it sexual
    It showed me well sad porn as being casually forced to do something when it's been shoved at you is not really sexy I feel
    And the list goes on and on

    people are allowed to like things you don't! Not everything that's created has to appeal to you personally.

    I am not shaming it! I am not into that stuff I just found some of it odd nor did i know it exists

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah, so after watching Ellis' video I just wanted to say she knows enough about the subject to give some interesting info to a layperson, but don't take it as the word of God either. She certainly knows way more than the video of a guy I saw recently who said "I don't see fair use for parody in section 107, so it must not be a thing" (ignoring like, hundreds of supreme court cases on the topic).

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhcq2BUO_T0

    Fun bonus: the ads before and after this video were for the US Concealed Carry Association, and were 100% spreading panic about being arrested for being a white guy with a gun.

    Youtube's ad policies are profoundly fucked.

    I have seen multiple anti-trans and anti-gay videos as ads before stuff talking about transitioning and the like.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I hope that wherever Piggy Chimp is now, she is living her best life and having a great time doing so!

    She's doing great

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular

    YES YES YES! I know what I'm doing tonight.

    The episode on Tetris was incredible. Like.. it is so cool to see this getting put together and preserved. I get excited whenever this channel produces an ep over 30 minutes.

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Gaming Historian's channel reminds me of PBS documentaries.

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  • Werewolf2000adWerewolf2000ad Suckers, I know exactly what went wrong. Registered User regular
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

    The US is stupid about free speech absolutism, along with looking for "balance".

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

    The US is stupid about free speech absolutism, along with looking for "balance".

    There are a lot of laws governing advertisements, dude.

    And poltical ads have laws governing them.

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  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    CN is moving into the "Chill hour long vids" market

    https://youtu.be/mai1cI_suG8
    https://youtu.be/pu-HY-mPG8c

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Al_wat wrote: »
    This is really good, and so is all the other stuff these guys have on their youtube!

    https://youtu.be/8R6StQfLNbw

    this was preeettty fuckin' dope

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

    The US is stupid about free speech absolutism, along with looking for "balance".

    There are a lot of laws governing advertisements, dude.

    And poltical ads have laws governing them.

    Political ads can also be used to subvert laws though. Tobacco companies can't advertise on television but they can sure as shit fund a Super PAC to run ads for a pro-Tobacco candidate who will push for them to get deregulation and tax breaks.

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  • Werewolf2000adWerewolf2000ad Suckers, I know exactly what went wrong. Registered User regular
    On the subject of terribleness on YouTube, my belated thanks to whoever it was on here who pointed out a while back that when you remove a video from your recommendations you should select 'tell us why' for an option that says 'I'm not interested in content from this channel'. I started doing that and holy shit does it make a difference.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited December 2018
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smuptD_letI
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  • LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    absolute vigilance in maintaining/pruning my recommendations has resulted in me avoiding like 99% of all the terrible youtube shit I see a lot of people talk about.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

    The US is stupid about free speech absolutism, along with looking for "balance".

    It's less that and more that currently practicaly legal jurisdiction over online advertisement in the US... is poor.

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    On the subject of terribleness on YouTube, my belated thanks to whoever it was on here who pointed out a while back that when you remove a video from your recommendations you should select 'tell us why' for an option that says 'I'm not interested in content from this channel'. I started doing that and holy shit does it make a difference.

    I'm playing the long game and seeing how many years I can go without clicking on stuff in my recommended to see if my algorithm ever changes

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

    The US is stupid about free speech absolutism, along with looking for "balance".

    There are a lot of laws governing advertisements, dude.

    And poltical ads have laws governing them.

    Political ads can also be used to subvert laws though. Tobacco companies can't advertise on television but they can sure as shit fund a Super PAC to run ads for a pro-Tobacco candidate who will push for them to get deregulation and tax breaks.

    Yes. That's a loophole. And comes from the very fucked up and weird position to treat corporations as living, breathing people.

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular

    That goes viral and that streamer gets a chair like the one he's got photoshopped behind him, guaranteed

  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    I had no idea Freddie Mercury was such a colossal troll.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrOidGgbVio

    I wouldn't even have been able to play the triangle for Queen, I'd have been laughing too hard all the time.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I already liked Freddie a lot but I like him a lot more now

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    This is extremely silly, but also kind of uplifting????
    https://youtu.be/6kYco2Zt-cM

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Crash Course takes a victory lap. Which is fully deserved, IMO. This thread/forum led me to them. I've fallen off watching lately, but that's mostly due to not having time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5cPfbmSD8

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    I will never, ever get tired of spoofs on isolated RATM lyrics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOE9fE72QLg

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Man, some of the ads you guys in (presumably) America report seeing on Youtube videos sound fucking awful. I never see anything like that. Is it just that stuff is only in the US? I mean, I know here in the UK we have some pretty strong laws about political ads and the like, but I'm also pretty sure that they only apply to TV/radio and not the internet.

    The US is stupid about free speech absolutism, along with looking for "balance".

    There are a lot of laws governing advertisements, dude.

    And poltical ads have laws governing them.

    Political ads can also be used to subvert laws though. Tobacco companies can't advertise on television but they can sure as shit fund a Super PAC to run ads for a pro-Tobacco candidate who will push for them to get deregulation and tax breaks.

    Yes. That's a loophole. And comes from the very fucked up and weird position to treat corporations as living, breathing people.
    there's just one thing corporations forgot when they made themselves people

    we're consumers, and we can eat people

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Crash Course takes a victory lap. Which is fully deserved, IMO. This thread/forum led me to them. I've fallen off watching lately, but that's mostly due to not having time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5cPfbmSD8

    I liked Crash Course a lot and US history/world history was very important to me during a dark time

    but their series on US government really turned me off*, as did John's refusal to just outright say "the CIA instigated a coup in Iran."

    *specifically, it was the third time they said the postal service didn't pay for itself while neglecting to mention that it did pay for itself for the entirety of its history until republicans deliberately attempted to bankrupt it in 2006

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    As much as a like John and Hank, they are, like, the definition of white liberalism.

    They have their hearts in the right place, but seem allergic to saying anything along the lines of "maybe the government and/or capitalism is bad sometimes?"

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  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    This has been appearing on my youtube recommendations lately.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    the postal service is one of the greatest successes of american government which is of course why republicans feel compelled to attempt to destroy it on the regular.

    that and they want to sell the profitable routes and the buildings which are valuable real estate in major cities while leaving everyone else to go get fucked, while providing worse service for more money.

    people's opinion on the postal service is a useful litmus test.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    even if the postal service was required to take a loss it's still vital to have because capitalistic models will not provide postal services to all communities in the US.

    most communities? sure. all communities? no.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    anybody who complains about the USPS has probably never had to deal with UPS or fedex customer service

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    even if the postal service was required to take a loss it's still vital to have because capitalistic models will not provide postal services to all communities in the US.

    most communities? sure. all communities? no.

    precisely!

    like, there's a reason that UPS and fedex contract out a lot of their last mile deliveries to the USPS

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    Crash Course takes a victory lap. Which is fully deserved, IMO. This thread/forum led me to them. I've fallen off watching lately, but that's mostly due to not having time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5cPfbmSD8

    I liked Crash Course a lot and US history/world history was very important to me during a dark time

    but their series on US government really turned me off*, as did John's refusal to just outright say "the CIA instigated a coup in Iran."

    *specifically, it was the third time they said the postal service didn't pay for itself while neglecting to mention that it did pay for itself for the entirety of its history until republicans deliberately attempted to bankrupt it in 2006

    The guy who they brought in for the US Government segment definitely didn't help things. I just don't like his personality, or something. I didn't like him on Mental Floss either.

    On the other hand, give me more Phil Plait. I fall asleep to Crash Course Astronomy, and I think we need to explore multiverses so he can talk about more.

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  • N1tSt4lkerN1tSt4lker Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    even if the postal service was required to take a loss it's still vital to have because capitalistic models will not provide postal services to all communities in the US.

    most communities? sure. all communities? no.

    This. I don’t even care if the USPS doesn’t pay for itself (even though it would without the pension bullshit). Even if it inherently operated in the red, it’s 100% worth paying for. Honestly I sometimes hate to even use the “but except for the pension funding rule, it would totally pay for itself” argument because I think that muddies the fact that the USPS is vital and should be funded and supported regardless.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I fully believe that The Hu have some kind of youtube promo scheme going on. Their first video was in my recommends right off the bat.

    I'm not complaining mind, they make rad music, but it does stink a little.

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  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I fully believe that The Hu have some kind of youtube promo scheme going on. Their first video was in my recommends right off the bat.

    I'm not complaining mind, they make rad music, but it does stink a little.

    Quite possible. I was personally not surprised since I have quite lot of mongolian music in my youtube history.

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