kaliyama I don't want to quote your entire post because I just want to address one portion (or maybe the underlying thesis).
My desk sits in a corner and my PC is sandwiched between the desk and the wall. Aesthetics is basically the bottom of my list. So I have the same stance with Apple supporters as I do with "RGB Crew": y'all killed off cases without side panel windows or glass.
So I'm stuck paying a premium for a "modern" case (my Antec case is 7 years old and doesn't even have front USB 3) because of features I'll never need.
I have the Fractal Design R6 in black with no window. Just a sexy black square
(edit: didn't see the @ in the quote before posting. sorry for the ping)
kaliyama I don't want to quote your entire post because I just want to address one portion (or maybe the underlying thesis).
My desk sits in a corner and my PC is sandwiched between the desk and the wall. Aesthetics is basically the bottom of my list. So I have the same stance with Apple supporters as I do with "RGB Crew": y'all killed off cases without side panel windows or glass.
So I'm stuck paying a premium for a "modern" case (my Antec case is 7 years old and doesn't even have front USB 3) because of features I'll never need.
I have the Fractal Design R6 in black with no window. Just a sexy black square
(edit: didn't see the @ in the quote before posting. sorry for the ping)
@Mugsley I lump the side panel cases in with the RGB crew - it’s the need to show off your lights or water cooling that has driven the adoption of side panels. A modern industrial design aesthetic would be something like a chunk of machined aluminum with very little on the outside at all. I have a thermaltake p3 because i need a case i could VESA mount. The side of the p3 facing outward is transparent acrylic with the sides open.
This conversation was very useful for me in brainstorming design ideas because it let me realize I can just cover up the acrylic with a sticker pattern and fake ivy which I’ll demonstrate next week.
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Looks like the GTX1160/1660 is gonna be gimped in ways other than just not having tensor/rt cores.
I'll just chime in here and say I personally disagree that the apple aesthetic looks "better".
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of chassis for PC components and there are some stellar looking ones that I would put FAR ahead of apples minimalist "plain aluminum box" style.
You can however copy that style and come out cheaper: https://www.circlestudio.co/products/circle-pro-case?variant=12412277063776
The reason I wouldn't recommend apple is the agressive anti-repair stance they have and the price to performance. It is also NOT true that a high end rig from apple vs a PC will come out equal. It'll be closer but a similarly priced PC based system will still outperform a mac.
All that said, my wife drives a mac at work and a macbook pro at home (2016 model) and it's a great machine with a great screen and great battery life. I think by and large they make good/great products but I resent the asking price and their business practices.
Just for shits and giggles I build a threadripper system with 4 more cores (16 vs 12 for the mac pro) and identical specs otherwise (except using DDR4 instead of DDR3 like the pro).
My system cost $6235+ tax and the apple one was $8300+tax
Your options as an editing/rendering/content producer etc... are:
1. Mac Pro - Ultra fast top of the line apple experience (OSX is great)
2. Threadripper build (or you could do a 7940x for intel) and you could also take a nice all-inclusive holiday to Mexico for a week.
I just want to end by saying it's perfectly OK to place a high value on looks & design. This, as far as I am aware, is the primary reason why furniture is so god damned expensive. I don't begrudge anyone for saying "yeah I paid more because I like the look" because that's 99.9% the reason why RGB vomit cases exist.
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I'll just chime in here and say I personally disagree that the apple aesthetic looks "better".
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of chassis for PC components and there are some stellar looking ones that I would put FAR ahead of apples minimalist "plain aluminum box" style.
You can however copy that style and come out cheaper: https://www.circlestudio.co/products/circle-pro-case?variant=12412277063776
Yeah that's a better take on the mac pro than the last generation of mac pros. What non-minimalist PC case designs do you like that you wouldn't be embarrassed to have normal people see in your living room?
I'll just chime in here and say I personally disagree that the apple aesthetic looks "better".
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of chassis for PC components and there are some stellar looking ones that I would put FAR ahead of apples minimalist "plain aluminum box" style.
You can however copy that style and come out cheaper: https://www.circlestudio.co/products/circle-pro-case?variant=12412277063776
Yeah that's a better take on the mac pro than the last generation of mac pros. What non-minimalist PC case designs do you like that you wouldn't be embarrassed to have normal people see in your living room?
Me personally?
I happen to really like glass so the Lian Li PC-011 would be my dream case. I am on a budget however and went with a Phanteks P300.
I am not an RGB guy and I prefer a single color of light at a time if any at all.
I should clarify what I mean by minimalist. I mean a uniform "simple" looking box or chassis that hides the components inside from view and generally "fits in" with other furniture or pieces in someones home.
I happen to prefer seeing the components and the technology within the machine.
I guess a good analogy would be between sleeper cars and hot rods. With a hot rod you see everything or at least significant pieces of what makes up the heart of the vehicle and the intent is to get people, including the owner, to look inside and see what makes it go.
A sleeper car just has all that tucked away and the only way you see what it has is when it runs a race or whatever.
Just a difference in style and intent basically.
That's my 2 cents Canadian (rounded up to 5 since we ditched the penny).
edit: I don't mean this in a mean way, nor is it directed at you specifically:
Yeah that's a better take on the mac pro than the last generation of mac pros. What non-minimalist PC case designs do you like that you wouldn't be embarrassed to have normal people see in your living room?
fuck people who would deride someone enjoying their hobby. Embarassed? I'm not in high school and don't need to have what all the other mainstream cool kids have
I'd also take issue with the implication that minimalist styles like Mac's are "more acceptable".
It's 2019, everyone in the western world has a computer and a good percentage have several of them. It shouldn't be a shocker that one can be seen and identified in a persons home.
I'll just chime in here and say I personally disagree that the apple aesthetic looks "better".
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of chassis for PC components and there are some stellar looking ones that I would put FAR ahead of apples minimalist "plain aluminum box" style.
You can however copy that style and come out cheaper: https://www.circlestudio.co/products/circle-pro-case?variant=12412277063776
Yeah that's a better take on the mac pro than the last generation of mac pros. What non-minimalist PC case designs do you like that you wouldn't be embarrassed to have normal people see in your living room?
I'm probably going to grab one of these when I eventually build a new system so I can transfer my current system into it and use it as a place to play controller games from the couch.
I don't love it, but it's not bad looking and better than most in its market space.
My current case is a Fractal Design R3 (I think, not that it matters they all look the same), and their design is pretty minimal and everything is offered either with or without a window except for the new S2 for some reason.
Minimalist cases are out there, Lian Li makes some nice ones and I believe used to make the all aluminum Mac Pro cases. Or just stole the design. Either way it was good looking but outrageously expensive.
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Oh hey that's news, Freesync and Gsync are starting to not be mutually exclusive? We've finally found our winner in that fight?
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I think Nvidia will work on (some) Freesyncs, but AMD won't work on Gsyncs still?
There are I think currently 12 freesync monitors that nVidia supports, and they only support it on the 1060 and higher cards, and the early drivers are apparently kind of a mess.
So yes, they "support" it. but I wouldn't be running to go get this setup.
Anyone have any good advice for an 8k workstation (video editing)? I'm helping a friend on monday. I've been reading a few guides but the recommended parts are all over the place.
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Anyone have any good advice for an 8k workstation (video editing)? I'm helping a friend on monday. I've been reading a few guides but the recommended parts are all over the place.
Quadro is probably the most budget-dependent thing.
What kind of software are they using? Final Cut?
128gb of RAM is probably a good starting point, along with 10gb ethernet and some 14tb HDD's for a RAID array along with a 1 TB NVME PCIe M.2 SSD.
Quadro is probably the most budget-dependent thing.
What kind of software are they using? Final Cut?
128gb of RAM is probably a good starting point, along with 10gb ethernet and some 14tb HDD's for a RAID array along with a 1 TB NVME PCIe M.2 SSD.
Looking at guides this is the first time I've seen someone not recommend a traditional card (seriously, every guide is so different).
He rattled off a list of software for me "After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Animate, Premiere, Adobe everything, Unity, Maya"
His budget is 3k, how doable is that?
That's a perfect budget for the RAM. What about the rest of the machine?
I thought I was doing okay, a few guides would suggest a 580 GPU as a budget one, but most builds are touting a 2080ti.
I think him and I are both in over our heads here.
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That's a perfect budget for the RAM. What about the rest of the machine?
I thought I was doing okay, a few guides would suggest a 580 GPU as a budget one, but most builds are touting a 2080ti.
I think him and I are both in over our heads here.
NVidia Quadros are really purpose built for this kind of stuff, but with a $3k budget you may have to default to a 2080TI. The Quadro's that would give you a significant boost over the 2080 are somewhere in the $4k-5k+ range.
Does he have any friends or colleagues that do the same work? What machines do they have?
As said above, I'd recommend a card properly suited to the task and go higher on RAM (I'd start at 32GB).
You'll need large storage for the file sizes, so go with spinning drives (probably WD Reds or Blacks). A decent sized SSD for OS/programs (128GB min)
I don't know enough about whether any of those programs like multicore chips, but you likely don't need to go as far as Threadripper or i9. A i7 or Ryzen chip is likely sufficient.
Does he have any friends or colleagues that do the same work? What machines do they have?
As said above, I'd recommend a card properly suited to the task and go higher on RAM (I'd start at 32GB).
You'll need large storage for the file sizes, so go with spinning drives (probably WD Reds or Blacks). A decent sized SSD for OS/programs (128GB min)
I don't know enough about whether any of those programs like multicore chips, but you likely don't need to go as far as Threadripper or i9. A i7 or Ryzen chip is likely sufficient.
I don't think any of them are techie. I kept asking what he was using before for work and he didn't know the specs and only said "out of date macs at school".
I guess he came to me because I've built all our friends rigs over the years.
I'm aware of some of the basics you've posted just now. But I'm worried I'm going to bottleneck something important.
I was reading some comments to a build article and someone pointed out something like "oh even in a RAID those drives will barely let you get smooth 8k playback" or something to that effect.
I guess I just don't know the work, and his friends just don't know computers. I'm going to have to get in his ear again, or at least go and see what they're working with/on.
Does he have any friends or colleagues that do the same work? What machines do they have?
As said above, I'd recommend a card properly suited to the task and go higher on RAM (I'd start at 32GB).
You'll need large storage for the file sizes, so go with spinning drives (probably WD Reds or Blacks). A decent sized SSD for OS/programs (128GB min)
I don't know enough about whether any of those programs like multicore chips, but you likely don't need to go as far as Threadripper or i9. A i7 or Ryzen chip is likely sufficient.
For 8k video encoding you should go with the best AMD chip you can. Threadripper if it falls in the budget. 64GB ram would be the minimum I would say. I do 4k surgery videos at work and will eat all of that pretty consistently.
Graphics card you'll probably have to settle for a 2080ti. Quadro is way out of your price range.
I can second the 10gb Ethernet.
Storage is the hard one. Is he doing Freelance work? Will he have a dedicated long term storage solution? If he's going to manage all his own storage, he'd honestly better get ready to double that budget and have a dedicated machine for it just for starters.
Yeah see just like @Mmmm... Cocks... I don't have the experience to recommend specifics. I was making the assumption that the extreme high end for processors was unneeded (like they are in 95% of enthusiast builds)
He mentioned he'd be buying some storage but I do see a lot of builds with RAID configs. Is that something that's needed for files that size without tearing your hair out(I'm talking speeds)? Or is that people assuming they just require backups?
Speaking of storage, a ton of builds have HUGE SSDs. With this work people aren't actually working off them right? Just OS and programs still like a gamer would? People can work with their footage on a standard HDD, right? (which brings me back to HDD speed)
For 4K+, you have the scratch area for the video you're working on on the SSD. These files are huge, and disk performance is a major bottleneck.
Like, a current $3k computer is going to have trouble playing 8K video, much less editing it.
These guides seem extremely helpful (though note that is coming from a company selling computers, so probably a touch overkill in the specifics...the general guidelines are right) - I suspect your friend's idea is exceeding their budget. If they are actually getting paying work to edit/post 8K video, they need a bigger budget. For unpaid work, they should aim for 4K.
Whenever anyone debates industrial design, it's necessary to remember that looks cannot sacrifice functionality. and apple's been killing the function to "benefit" looks. And their looks have been terribly stale and uncreative for ten years. And their only tenet has been "make it thinner for thinner sake". and the execution and build quality have been objectively degrading very seriously for 10 years.
Their looks are subjectivelybetter, their function and quality are objectively worse.
so yeah, I freaking hate their "design". Because it's bad. I do hate the garish RGB-mania, too. and I miss variety and creativity, today we're doing just a bit better than the beige box days, in that we have two or three options.
I'm actually a big fan of this generations consoles in terms of anesthetics. I'd be happy to have pc cases move to "clean look, still identifiable and interesting but not garish.
There are Already some cases like HTPC style but it's far from mainstream.
I hate the awful RGB'ness of the current PC aesthetic. Mainly the all the colors all the time with some super distracting shifting pattern. Keep it to one color used in moderation to accent or complement the rest of the theme. Anything more than that is garish and unnecessary.
The LED's in my PC are all set to purple to match/accentuate the purple fluid and other purple accents. My initial intention was to go with white but the white didn't properly show the color of my fluid (made it look more blue than purple). When I swap to an opaque fluid in 8-9 months then I'll give the white a try again.
Iron Knuckles I would also strongly recommend using pcpartpicker to manage the "builds" people recommend. It's a fantastic tool to play with when choosing parts.
I hate the awful RGB'ness of the current PC aesthetic. Mainly the all the colors all the time with some super distracting shifting pattern. Keep it to one color used in moderation to accent or complement the rest of the theme. Anything more than that is garish and unnecessary.
The LED's in my PC are all set to purple to match/accentuate the purple fluid and other purple accents. My initial intention was to go with white but the white didn't properly show the color of my fluid (made it look more blue than purple). When I swap to an opaque fluid in 8-9 months then I'll give the white a try again.
Just remember those aren't true Purple LEDs. Those are still a myth
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I just signed up for a membership-based workshop (woodshop, c&c router, 3d printers, etc) and I have this vision in my head of a desk that's a computer.
Not very innovative I know, but hear me out:
What if all the power cables, cooling pipes, and data cables were arranged to look like a printed circuit board?
Diffused white lights on the inside.
I dunno, it looks p sweet in my head. Dunno if I have the capability to build it.
I just signed up for a membership-based workshop (woodshop, c&c router, 3d printers, etc) and I have this vision in my head of a desk that's a computer.
Not very innovative I know, but hear me out:
What if all the power cables, cooling pipes, and data cables were arranged to look like a printed circuit board?
Diffused white lights on the inside.
I dunno, it looks p sweet in my head. Dunno if I have the capability to build it.
Every journey starts with the first step.
If you want some inspiration, a number of people have wall-mounted either PCs or consoles/cable boxes and run the cables to mimic PCB traces. With a little digging, you can find those pics to help you decide what you want.
There's also those Lian-Li (and maybe other vendors) desks that are a computer case, where all the components are inside the desk. They're pricey as hell but awesome.
I was aware of Logical Increments, which I've been using to get a base idea, but pcpartpicker is new to me. Poking around in there a bit.
So my current box is from 2009, and surprising nobody it's largely incapable of running modern games. I have a budget of roughly $1,000 USD. Since the motherboard is ancient that for sure means a new CPU, memory, and while I guess the GPU could be transferred, it's ancient. I think it's an nVidia 300 series. My case is a mid-ATX and I see no particular need to replace it. I have a 750 watt psu and without looking up the model I'm unsure if the silver/gold/platinum efficiency rating thing existed when it was made. I do not have an SSD, and plan on retaining my existing HDDs and replacing them later.
I've only ever used nVidia and Intel hardware, and while I'm not married to them I've also not had negative experiences.
Mostly I'm looking to play some modern games. I am primarily a console gamer, so it hasn't been a huge requirement for me to keep up with PC stuff. I have no particular interest in gaming at 4k, and realistically I'm not going to go above 1080p. I don't even have a display capable of 1080p right now, or for that matter one made after the invention of HDMI. I also don't care about VR at this juncture.
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There's also those Lian-Li (and maybe other vendors) desks that are a computer case, where all the components are inside the desk. They're pricey as hell but awesome.
I mean yeah, but they're big metal slabs and designed for RGB moneyshots.
I can get 3 sheets of particle board or wood and do it for about $200 and some time at a workshop using power tools and some elbow grease.
There's also those Lian-Li (and maybe other vendors) desks that are a computer case, where all the components are inside the desk. They're pricey as hell but awesome.
I mean yeah, but they're big metal slabs and designed for RGB moneyshots.
I can get 3 sheets of particle board or wood and do it for about $200 and some time at a workshop using power tools and some elbow grease.
True, but Lian-Li does make some sweet alum cases, and I imagine they're really well done. But yes the basic concept is not hard, you just need the tools, workspace, and skills/knowhow to build such a thing (I struggle to make a usable bird feeder :P ).
These guides seem extremely helpful (though note that is coming from a company selling computers, so probably a touch overkill in the specifics...the general guidelines are right)
I stumbled on these. I find it weird that they basically say GPU is nearly worthless besides VRAM when almost nobody seems to be suggesting AMDs cheap cards with tons of VRAM over Nvidia$ offerings. Even says very few effects are GPU driven.
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I have the Fractal Design R6 in black with no window. Just a sexy black square
(edit: didn't see the @ in the quote before posting. sorry for the ping)
@Mugsley I lump the side panel cases in with the RGB crew - it’s the need to show off your lights or water cooling that has driven the adoption of side panels. A modern industrial design aesthetic would be something like a chunk of machined aluminum with very little on the outside at all. I have a thermaltake p3 because i need a case i could VESA mount. The side of the p3 facing outward is transparent acrylic with the sides open.
This conversation was very useful for me in brainstorming design ideas because it let me realize I can just cover up the acrylic with a sticker pattern and fake ivy which I’ll demonstrate next week.
So that 2060 is looking better and better.
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of chassis for PC components and there are some stellar looking ones that I would put FAR ahead of apples minimalist "plain aluminum box" style.
You can however copy that style and come out cheaper: https://www.circlestudio.co/products/circle-pro-case?variant=12412277063776
The reason I wouldn't recommend apple is the agressive anti-repair stance they have and the price to performance. It is also NOT true that a high end rig from apple vs a PC will come out equal. It'll be closer but a similarly priced PC based system will still outperform a mac.
All that said, my wife drives a mac at work and a macbook pro at home (2016 model) and it's a great machine with a great screen and great battery life. I think by and large they make good/great products but I resent the asking price and their business practices.
Just for shits and giggles I build a threadripper system with 4 more cores (16 vs 12 for the mac pro) and identical specs otherwise (except using DDR4 instead of DDR3 like the pro).
My system cost $6235+ tax and the apple one was $8300+tax
Your options as an editing/rendering/content producer etc... are:
1. Mac Pro - Ultra fast top of the line apple experience (OSX is great)
2. Threadripper build (or you could do a 7940x for intel) and you could also take a nice all-inclusive holiday to Mexico for a week.
I just want to end by saying it's perfectly OK to place a high value on looks & design. This, as far as I am aware, is the primary reason why furniture is so god damned expensive. I don't begrudge anyone for saying "yeah I paid more because I like the look" because that's 99.9% the reason why RGB vomit cases exist.
Yeah that's a better take on the mac pro than the last generation of mac pros. What non-minimalist PC case designs do you like that you wouldn't be embarrassed to have normal people see in your living room?
Me personally?
I happen to really like glass so the Lian Li PC-011 would be my dream case. I am on a budget however and went with a Phanteks P300.
I am not an RGB guy and I prefer a single color of light at a time if any at all.
I should clarify what I mean by minimalist. I mean a uniform "simple" looking box or chassis that hides the components inside from view and generally "fits in" with other furniture or pieces in someones home.
I happen to prefer seeing the components and the technology within the machine.
I guess a good analogy would be between sleeper cars and hot rods. With a hot rod you see everything or at least significant pieces of what makes up the heart of the vehicle and the intent is to get people, including the owner, to look inside and see what makes it go.
A sleeper car just has all that tucked away and the only way you see what it has is when it runs a race or whatever.
Just a difference in style and intent basically.
That's my 2 cents Canadian (rounded up to 5 since we ditched the penny).
edit: I don't mean this in a mean way, nor is it directed at you specifically:
Yeah that's a better take on the mac pro than the last generation of mac pros. What non-minimalist PC case designs do you like that you wouldn't be embarrassed to have normal people see in your living room?
fuck people who would deride someone enjoying their hobby. Embarassed? I'm not in high school and don't need to have what all the other mainstream cool kids have
I'd also take issue with the implication that minimalist styles like Mac's are "more acceptable".
It's 2019, everyone in the western world has a computer and a good percentage have several of them. It shouldn't be a shocker that one can be seen and identified in a persons home.
I'm probably going to grab one of these when I eventually build a new system so I can transfer my current system into it and use it as a place to play controller games from the couch.
I don't love it, but it's not bad looking and better than most in its market space.
My current case is a Fractal Design R3 (I think, not that it matters they all look the same), and their design is pretty minimal and everything is offered either with or without a window except for the new S2 for some reason.
Minimalist cases are out there, Lian Li makes some nice ones and I believe used to make the all aluminum Mac Pro cases. Or just stole the design. Either way it was good looking but outrageously expensive.
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There are I think currently 12 freesync monitors that nVidia supports, and they only support it on the 1060 and higher cards, and the early drivers are apparently kind of a mess.
So yes, they "support" it. but I wouldn't be running to go get this setup.
Quadro is probably the most budget-dependent thing.
What kind of software are they using? Final Cut?
128gb of RAM is probably a good starting point, along with 10gb ethernet and some 14tb HDD's for a RAID array along with a 1 TB NVME PCIe M.2 SSD.
He rattled off a list of software for me "After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Animate, Premiere, Adobe everything, Unity, Maya"
His budget is 3k, how doable is that?
I think him and I are both in over our heads here.
NVidia Quadros are really purpose built for this kind of stuff, but with a $3k budget you may have to default to a 2080TI. The Quadro's that would give you a significant boost over the 2080 are somewhere in the $4k-5k+ range.
As said above, I'd recommend a card properly suited to the task and go higher on RAM (I'd start at 32GB).
You'll need large storage for the file sizes, so go with spinning drives (probably WD Reds or Blacks). A decent sized SSD for OS/programs (128GB min)
I don't know enough about whether any of those programs like multicore chips, but you likely don't need to go as far as Threadripper or i9. A i7 or Ryzen chip is likely sufficient.
I guess he came to me because I've built all our friends rigs over the years.
I'm aware of some of the basics you've posted just now. But I'm worried I'm going to bottleneck something important.
I was reading some comments to a build article and someone pointed out something like "oh even in a RAID those drives will barely let you get smooth 8k playback" or something to that effect.
I guess I just don't know the work, and his friends just don't know computers. I'm going to have to get in his ear again, or at least go and see what they're working with/on.
For 8k video encoding you should go with the best AMD chip you can. Threadripper if it falls in the budget. 64GB ram would be the minimum I would say. I do 4k surgery videos at work and will eat all of that pretty consistently.
Graphics card you'll probably have to settle for a 2080ti. Quadro is way out of your price range.
I can second the 10gb Ethernet.
Storage is the hard one. Is he doing Freelance work? Will he have a dedicated long term storage solution? If he's going to manage all his own storage, he'd honestly better get ready to double that budget and have a dedicated machine for it just for starters.
Speaking of storage, a ton of builds have HUGE SSDs. With this work people aren't actually working off them right? Just OS and programs still like a gamer would? People can work with their footage on a standard HDD, right? (which brings me back to HDD speed)
Like, a current $3k computer is going to have trouble playing 8K video, much less editing it.
These guides seem extremely helpful (though note that is coming from a company selling computers, so probably a touch overkill in the specifics...the general guidelines are right) - I suspect your friend's idea is exceeding their budget. If they are actually getting paying work to edit/post 8K video, they need a bigger budget. For unpaid work, they should aim for 4K.
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Their looks are subjectively better, their function and quality are objectively worse.
so yeah, I freaking hate their "design". Because it's bad. I do hate the garish RGB-mania, too. and I miss variety and creativity, today we're doing just a bit better than the beige box days, in that we have two or three options.
There are Already some cases like HTPC style but it's far from mainstream.
The LED's in my PC are all set to purple to match/accentuate the purple fluid and other purple accents. My initial intention was to go with white but the white didn't properly show the color of my fluid (made it look more blue than purple). When I swap to an opaque fluid in 8-9 months then I'll give the white a try again.
Agreed.
Iron Knuckles I would also strongly recommend using pcpartpicker to manage the "builds" people recommend. It's a fantastic tool to play with when choosing parts.
Just remember those aren't true Purple LEDs. Those are still a myth
Not very innovative I know, but hear me out:
What if all the power cables, cooling pipes, and data cables were arranged to look like a printed circuit board?
Diffused white lights on the inside.
I dunno, it looks p sweet in my head. Dunno if I have the capability to build it.
Every journey starts with the first step.
If you want some inspiration, a number of people have wall-mounted either PCs or consoles/cable boxes and run the cables to mimic PCB traces. With a little digging, you can find those pics to help you decide what you want.
So my current box is from 2009, and surprising nobody it's largely incapable of running modern games. I have a budget of roughly $1,000 USD. Since the motherboard is ancient that for sure means a new CPU, memory, and while I guess the GPU could be transferred, it's ancient. I think it's an nVidia 300 series. My case is a mid-ATX and I see no particular need to replace it. I have a 750 watt psu and without looking up the model I'm unsure if the silver/gold/platinum efficiency rating thing existed when it was made. I do not have an SSD, and plan on retaining my existing HDDs and replacing them later.
I've only ever used nVidia and Intel hardware, and while I'm not married to them I've also not had negative experiences.
Mostly I'm looking to play some modern games. I am primarily a console gamer, so it hasn't been a huge requirement for me to keep up with PC stuff. I have no particular interest in gaming at 4k, and realistically I'm not going to go above 1080p. I don't even have a display capable of 1080p right now, or for that matter one made after the invention of HDMI. I also don't care about VR at this juncture.
I mean yeah, but they're big metal slabs and designed for RGB moneyshots.
I can get 3 sheets of particle board or wood and do it for about $200 and some time at a workshop using power tools and some elbow grease.
True, but Lian-Li does make some sweet alum cases, and I imagine they're really well done. But yes the basic concept is not hard, you just need the tools, workspace, and skills/knowhow to build such a thing (I struggle to make a usable bird feeder :P ).