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[PC Build Thread] It's a weird time in Hardwaretown

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I really need to get a third monitor set up with monitor arms on my desk I think, pc build thread, help me

    I got a cheap one from VIVO which is working great for me.

    2 24's and a 27" curved in the middle for main gaming.
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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    @bowen there's this one, too:

    https://kinjadeals.theinventory.com/this-budget-friendly-dual-monitor-arm-is-even-more-budg-1833209356

    I'm picky when it comes to those arms, though. I feel that you have to push so much of the arm "back" to get the displays close together, that you either have the displays close to the edge of the desk, or you can't have the desk fully against a wall. If that makes sense.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »

    That's exactly it.

    Mugsley is right though you need a bit of space behind the desk for the arms if you push em right close.
    I'd say maybe a foot-ish of clearance.

    It's not good for heavy LCD's but anything from the last few years is damn light and will be fine. The middle pole is rock solid and I bolted it into my desk.
    I was using the clamp on an old desk and it held fine.

  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    I need to talk with my wife about potentially getting a different desk. It sits in a corner anyway, so I may switch to an L-shape for a bit more desk real estate.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    My desk is just a kitchen countertop on some filing cabinets so I can do whatever I need to do to secure them, no big deal

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    My desk is just a kitchen countertop on some filing cabinets so I can do whatever I need to do to secure them, no big deal

    Yeah my shit is just some plywood sandwich thing. Nice to be able to bolt whatever to it and cheap :)

    bowen
  • HereticAstartesHereticAstartes Registered User regular
    My desk is an 80/20 monstrosity. I should have it "photo ready" soon.

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    My desk is an 80/20 monstrosity. I should have it "photo ready" soon.

    Don't pinterest it. Shows us how you really live :)
    I left the empty Miller High Life beer can in mine :)

    HereticAstartes
  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    I'm hoping that, by the time I can easily get my hands on a 2080 they will have figured out the scheduling and turbo issues. As excited as I am to replace my 2600k/980 rig, I don't want to deal with these early release issues.

    Orca
  • HereticAstartesHereticAstartes Registered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    My desk is an 80/20 monstrosity. I should have it "photo ready" soon.

    Don't pinterest it. Shows us how you really live :)
    I left the empty Miller High Life beer can in mine :)

    I at least want to get the horns on it. I'll leave behind evidence of how many Landsharks that takes.

  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    In an ideal world, I'd get 1 of the Ikea "butcher block" countertops and cut it into 2 for the L shape, and hold it up with something containing drawers.

    Then I can Swiss cheese that bitch however I need.

    Aridholbowen
  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Well, this is neat. Apparently the 'Backordered' EVGA 2070 Super I ordered this morning is getting loaded on the shipping truck right now. What a day! What a lovely day!

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  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Well, this is neat. Apparently the 'Backordered' EVGA 2070 Super I ordered this morning is getting loaded on the shipping truck right now. What a day! What a lovely day!

    The one I was looking at this morning on Newegg was back in stock tonight...I may have impulsively ordered it.

    Now to plot out my CPU upgrade...

    AridholLD50
  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    twmjr wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Well, this is neat. Apparently the 'Backordered' EVGA 2070 Super I ordered this morning is getting loaded on the shipping truck right now. What a day! What a lovely day!

    The one I was looking at this morning on Newegg was back in stock tonight...I may have impulsively ordered it.

    Now to plot out my CPU upgrade...

    For me, I'm now ready to plot out my monitor upgrade (been on the fence about picking up a 27" 1440p g-sync display with my GTX1080...now, with a 2070 super, any reservations I had have been put to bed).

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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    x570 Aorus Master delivered today. Ryzen 3900x tomorrow... gonna wait till Prime Day before ordering the other stuff I need to build in case anything else goes on sale though.

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    5700xt or 2070 non-super if they were the same price?

    I might have a way to get a 2070 non super for $550 CDN. The 5700xt is $520.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    5700xt or 2070 non-super if they were the same price?

    I might have a way to get a 2070 non super for $550 CDN. The 5700xt is $520.

    All the gaming performance reviews I've been seeing have been saying the 5700xt is a better performer than the standard 2070. However, the one caveat being that all the 5700xts on the market right now are using blower fans. So, if you're okay with GPU temps in the 90s (or are able to swap out the blower cooler for a better cooling solution), the 5700xt would be great at that price.

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    twmjr wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Well, this is neat. Apparently the 'Backordered' EVGA 2070 Super I ordered this morning is getting loaded on the shipping truck right now. What a day! What a lovely day!

    The one I was looking at this morning on Newegg was back in stock tonight...I may have impulsively ordered it.

    Now to plot out my CPU upgrade...

    For me, I'm now ready to plot out my monitor upgrade (been on the fence about picking up a 27" 1440p g-sync display with my GTX1080...now, with a 2070 super, any reservations I had have been put to bed).

    I'm getting a lot of screen tearing in AssCreed Odyssey and it really has me jonesing to upgrade my aging monitor, but I'm getting way too picky about HDR, refresh rate, and panel type. Why cant someone just make a 1440p 144hz HDR600 gsync IPS monitor?

    Theres like 1 144hz HDR600 monitor and its a curved screen with a VA panel. If I go for a HDR1000 panel (true HDR), I'm looking at 2k for a monitor and I'm limited to a 4k resolution. Well, I guess they've come down to ~1600 (Acer Predator X27) and ~1800 (Asus PG27UQ), but still.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Aridhol wrote: »
    5700xt or 2070 non-super if they were the same price?

    I might have a way to get a 2070 non super for $550 CDN. The 5700xt is $520.

    All the gaming performance reviews I've been seeing have been saying the 5700xt is a better performer than the standard 2070. However, the one caveat being that all the 5700xts on the market right now are using blower fans. So, if you're okay with GPU temps in the 90s (or are able to swap out the blower cooler for a better cooling solution), the 5700xt would be great at that price.

    Thanks, I was leaning that way probably just from the new factor and that my monitor is a freesync 144hz. Gsync compatible but still natively freesync.

    The smart play would be to go on vacations starting this weekend and then see what non blowers get announced and the prices :)

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Re: Monitor stands:

    https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5561

    This is the one I got. I... don't mind it, but if I had more desk space I would have went horizontal instead. I have two 21 or 23 ACER monitors on the left, and 1 32" Vizio TV on the right, and for a 4' wide desk, that's a lot of monitor for a little space.

    Edit: Any word on when the ROG Crosshair VIII Hero will actually be available? I'm not seeing it anywhere.

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  • Jeep-EepJeep-Eep Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Aridhol wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Aridhol wrote: »
    5700xt or 2070 non-super if they were the same price?

    I might have a way to get a 2070 non super for $550 CDN. The 5700xt is $520.

    All the gaming performance reviews I've been seeing have been saying the 5700xt is a better performer than the standard 2070. However, the one caveat being that all the 5700xts on the market right now are using blower fans. So, if you're okay with GPU temps in the 90s (or are able to swap out the blower cooler for a better cooling solution), the 5700xt would be great at that price.

    Thanks, I was leaning that way probably just from the new factor and that my monitor is a freesync 144hz. Gsync compatible but still natively freesync.

    The smart play would be to go on vacations starting this weekend and then see what non blowers get announced and the prices :)

    My thoughts as well, not least as the drivers are still a bit infantile, though if your comp still works, I'd personally wait for RDNA 2, which is supposed to raytrace.

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Jeep-Eep wrote: »
    Aridhol wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Aridhol wrote: »
    5700xt or 2070 non-super if they were the same price?

    I might have a way to get a 2070 non super for $550 CDN. The 5700xt is $520.

    All the gaming performance reviews I've been seeing have been saying the 5700xt is a better performer than the standard 2070. However, the one caveat being that all the 5700xts on the market right now are using blower fans. So, if you're okay with GPU temps in the 90s (or are able to swap out the blower cooler for a better cooling solution), the 5700xt would be great at that price.

    Thanks, I was leaning that way probably just from the new factor and that my monitor is a freesync 144hz. Gsync compatible but still natively freesync.

    The smart play would be to go on vacations starting this weekend and then see what non blowers get announced and the prices :)

    My thoughts as well, not least as the drivers are still a bit infantile, though if your comp still works, I'd personally wait for RDNA 2, which is supposed to raytrace.

    Can't wait, sold my 1070ti to pay for a new card :)
    Running a lowly GTX 960 right now.

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Is anyone knowledgeable on what's good to know with Ryzen?

    We have a specific case where we want a 16 core 32 thread computer built here. I saw the info about the Ryzen 9 3950X which is coming in september, but I would prefer to build the computer prior to that. There is currently the Threadripper 2950X available which also fits those specs. From what I can see the threadripper has a much higher TDP and the hertz is ever so slightly lower, which doesn't really matter for us in this case. Mostly need the cores and threads into one case. Price is looking to be about even for these two.

    Am I missing some crucial information?

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    AFAIK they have the same TDP.

    You lose single core performance. But pound for pound the 2950 and 3900 are fairly close in what they can do, the threadripper just has more cores at its disposal.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    bowen wrote: »
    AFAIK they have the same TDP.

    You lose single core performance. But pound for pound the 2950 and 3900 are fairly close in what they can do, the threadripper just has more cores at its disposal.

    I saw threadripper at 180W and the new 3950X at 105W so some difference at least but I don't think it would matter anyway. Both had the same core/thread counts though.

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Threadripper supports quad channel memory and I believe much more pcie channels.

    If your use case is high core count compute tasks I'd absolutely go threadripper.

    At the end of the day, even the 3950x is a consumer/prosumer chip.

    No idea if/when new threadripper is coming.


    Honk
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    Is anyone knowledgeable on what's good to know with Ryzen?

    We have a specific case where we want a 16 core 32 thread computer built here. I saw the info about the Ryzen 9 3950X which is coming in september, but I would prefer to build the computer prior to that. There is currently the Threadripper 2950X available which also fits those specs. From what I can see the threadripper has a much higher TDP and the hertz is ever so slightly lower, which doesn't really matter for us in this case. Mostly need the cores and threads into one case. Price is looking to be about even for these two.

    Am I missing some crucial information?

    No, not missing anything. Threadripper is just a very different chip than Ryzen parts. Threadripper is a "High End Desktop" part, designed for workstations. Threadripper supports Quad Channel Memory (compared to dual), 40 pci-e lanes (compared to 16-24), etc. Threadripper is also a different CPU design in that how they got to 16 cores is that they basically bolted 2x 8 core CPU's together. That's not a bad thing, just how the design worked before they were able to get a 16 core die like Ryzen 3.

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  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    What is your timeline and do you have intense read/write requirements along with the need for a high core count?

    Threadripper has way more pcie lanes and quad channel men support, but the new 4.0 nvme drives do some truly ridiculous numbers for read/write.

  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2019
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    Is anyone knowledgeable on what's good to know with Ryzen?

    We have a specific case where we want a 16 core 32 thread computer built here. I saw the info about the Ryzen 9 3950X which is coming in september, but I would prefer to build the computer prior to that. There is currently the Threadripper 2950X available which also fits those specs. From what I can see the threadripper has a much higher TDP and the hertz is ever so slightly lower, which doesn't really matter for us in this case. Mostly need the cores and threads into one case. Price is looking to be about even for these two.

    Am I missing some crucial information?

    No, not missing anything. Threadripper is just a very different chip than Ryzen parts. Threadripper is a "High End Desktop" part, designed for workstations. Threadripper supports Quad Channel Memory (compared to dual), 40 pci-e lanes (compared to 16-24), etc. Threadripper is also a different CPU design in that how they got to 16 cores is that they basically bolted 2x 8 core CPU's together. That's not a bad thing, just how the design worked before they were able to get a 16 core die like Ryzen 3.

    The 16-core Ryzen 3s are actually 2x 8-core "chiplets" on the same package. The 12-core does this as well, but (IIRC) 2x harvested chiplets that couldn't hack it at 8 cores.

    The lower-level Ryzen 3 chips just have an empty spot where the second chiplet is on the bigger ones.

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  • Ed GrubermanEd Gruberman Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    @bowen I don't suppose you are in Canada? I have an extra Dell 23" monitor lying around. It's nothing fancy but it works well enough.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    nah I'm in NY

    I'm not in a rush to get three monitors :-P

    thanks tho

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  • Ed GrubermanEd Gruberman Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    nah I'm in NY

    I'm not in a rush to get three monitors :-P

    thanks tho

    No worries. I figured I would ask since the Mrs. would love me to get rid of the clutter but it would probably cost almost as much to ship it internationally as it would to buy new locally.

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  • cardboard delusionscardboard delusions USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    nah I'm in NY

    I'm not in a rush to get three monitors :-P

    thanks tho

    High five NY!

    bowenCauld
  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    I should not have sold my 1070 ti and 960 so early.

    Now I have gone from playing FC4 on a 1070ti to onboard video from my 9600k.

    feelsbadman

  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    You won't even remember this time, once your replacement card gets in there.

    Look at it this way: it's the perfect time to finally play Undertale, or Va-11 Hall-A, or Stardew Valley.

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    You won't even remember this time, once your replacement card gets in there.

    Look at it this way: it's the perfect time to finally play Undertale, or Va-11 Hall-A, or Stardew Valley.

    I have darkest dungeon. I'm gonna play that and Tharsis.

    Also maybe monkey island since I've never played em.
    Or maybe the final 2 Penny Arcade games since I never beat those either...

    I shall try to look on the bright side :)

  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    What's the right move at this point for CPUs to do 1440p/144Hz with a 2070 Super? For context, I'm running an i5-6500 currently.

    twmjr on
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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Someone recommend a mouse to me

    Super happy with my Logitech 502.
    Has weights too you can add / remove to your comfort level.

    MugsleyThegreatcow
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