I promise you kids care more about spider-man than mary poppins
I am honestly curious how well Mary Poppins is gonna do
Like I don't expect it to bomb, but a lot of the hype and advertising I've seen has been built around OH SHIT Y'ALL ITS MARY POPPINS AND SHE IS BACK
And while Mary Poppins is undeniably a family classic and something parents will remember fondly from their childhoods it...doesn't really seem like something younger generations care about? Like I'm 27 and I maybe only watched it once as a kid and didn't have any friends who gave a shit about it and I was friends with a lot of Disney loving theater nerds.
I wonder if they have overestimated just how universally beloved and important Mary Poppins is
Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
I think The Lego Batman Movie would count as well
lego batman is a good test study because that's overtly child focused, rather than this movie which is hitting more age ranges. And it did fine, but not amazing. I'd expect this movie to easily clear that bar.
Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
I think The Lego Batman Movie would count as well
Oh yeah that's fair
And it made a lot of money!
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I guess I don't limit my kids much when it comes to movies.
For the most part, they can watch wherever they want.
Obviously there is a limit but most PG13 movies are fine to me.
(I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. Just stating what I do.)
Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
Companies will do anything to make money. If there was money in theatrical release they would've done it. Capitalism knows no apathy only profit.
This is a pretty weird statement
you could apply this to basically anything before a trend for it starts
before x-men you could say "noone wants superhero movies! If there was money it it would have existed by now!!"
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Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
Companies will do anything to make money. If there was money in theatrical release they would've done it. Capitalism knows no apathy only profit.
movies still cost money, and studios by and large want to spend it on sure things. with a dearth of animated comparison points, animated movies are never seen as those sure things. this also presumes studio execs don't fall victim to the same "conventional wisdom" that they in part help establish like "adults don't give a shit about cartoons! no money in em!" which I just don't think is accurate
I promise you kids care more about spider-man than mary poppins
I am honestly curious how well Mary Poppins is gonna do
Like I don't expect it to bomb, but a lot of the hype and advertising I've seen has been built around OH SHIT Y'ALL ITS MARY POPPINS AND SHE IS BACK
And while Mary Poppins is undeniably a family classic and something parents will remember fondly from their childhoods it...doesn't really seem like something younger generations care about? Like I'm 27 and I maybe only watched it once as a kid and didn't have any friends who gave a shit about it and I was friends with a lot of Disney loving theater nerds.
I wonder if they have overestimated just how universally beloved and important Mary Poppins is
I am just a little older than you and I watched MP maybe....half a billion times? And my kids like it, although it's not their favorite disney movie. they think the laughing scene is the best thing put on cinema though.
The review embargo for Spider-Man was up an hour ago, don't know why the Aquaman stuff started this week because that's still got at least a week before it's up
Aquaman had its premiere in London on Monday night I think, so it's a case of look, people have actually seen this film now, any embargoes that may or may not have been agreed are off.
It’s a bit further into the “for children” realm perhaps.
That's also maybe a weird case where it is less a superhero movie and more trading on the existing comedy show which, while great, does not really resemble the Teen Titans in any other form.
It also did fine at the box office, clearing 5 times its budget.
Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
Companies will do anything to make money. If there was money in theatrical release they would've done it. Capitalism knows no apathy only profit.
The thing about that is capitalism only cares about The Most Profit, to the point where it will actively hamstring itself with bad decisions because it values what it sees as a sure thing over an unknown.
Even in the age of the MCU most movie execs can't conceive of superheroes as a big moneymaker and would be extremely hesitant to release a big-budget superhero cartoon in theaters.
Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
Companies will do anything to make money. If there was money in theatrical release they would've done it. Capitalism knows no apathy only profit.
The thing about that is capitalism only cares about The Most Profit, to the point where it will actively hamstring itself with bad decisions because it values what it sees as a sure thing over an unknown.
Even in the age of the MCU most movie execs can't conceive of superheroes as a big moneymaker and would be extremely hesitant to release a big-budget superhero cartoon in theaters.
This is another good point
RomComs are largely dead in theaters not because they don't make money but because they don't make insane billion dollar opening weekends
Companies want THE MOST MONEY and this is slightly different than what they know makes them THE MOST MONEY
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Also, The Incredibles is different than something like Into The Spideverse.
I would compare this more to an animated Batman movie or other animated Marvel movie.
I think the idea that they don't make money because they don't get a theatrical release is backwards. I would say they don't get a theatrical release because studios don't expect they'll make money.
But who knows?
The only other theatrical animated Marvel/DC superhero movie released that I can even think of is Mask of the Phantasm which isn't a good point of comparison because A) it is 25 years old, the box office was very different in 1993 and C) it was famously underpromoted and sent out to die by its studio.
It could be why studios don't make them but the most plausible reason, to me, is that they just didn't see a point since the live action ones are making so much money and are relatively all ages fare. It isn't out of apprehension, its apathy.
Companies will do anything to make money. If there was money in theatrical release they would've done it. Capitalism knows no apathy only profit.
This is a pretty weird statement
you could apply this to basically anything before a trend for it starts
before x-men you could say "noone wants superhero movies! If there was money it it would have existed by now!!"
the cynic in me also says "let's check back in and see exactly how fully Hollywood has capitalized on the market success of your black panthers and crazies rich asian in a few and reexamine that statement"
this isn't to say I don't think change is possible (or in motion) but only that the people in charge are still entrenched and oh so fallible, they're not all capitalism wunderkinds
it is probably actually more profitable to spend $100 million on ten direct to dvd animated superhero films than $100 million on one theatrically released animated superhero film
Yeah RomComs have been dead for not MAXIMIZING PROFITS, not because they actively bomb
Like Crazy Rich Asians came out and is the 6th highest grossing one of all time but will likely be looked at as a minor success because it "only" made 236 million
The thing with what movies are appropriate for kids is, even within age ranges, different kids can handle different stuff. There's also something to be said for what they're psychologically and physically able to process, both visually and narratively but, by and large, their guardians are probably going to know best whether a given movie is right for their children and I think with more intense stuff like MCU movies, you just can't make a blanket statement about what's appropriate for kids under 13.
Also I think people keep saying this will be the super hero movie that does badly and then Venom makes a butt ton of money so I fully expect this thing to do extremely well
Most of the other holiday releases for a younger audience look kinda bad this year, what else even is there? Mortal Engines?
Mary Poppins seems like a completely different end but if thats absolutely MASSIVE I could see it maybe eating into this, but thats the only way I see this not being really big
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
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There is a weird aversion to Venom around here that exists almost literally nowhere else
I wouldn't let my son watch a woman be picked up carelessly and tossed off a cliff while she screams for her life, no. there's a lot of other stuff in that movie that i wouldn't be ok with him watching either, but that's the main one
Yeah RomComs have been dead for not MAXIMIZING PROFITS, not because they actively bomb
Like Crazy Rich Asians came out and is the 6th highest grossing one of all time but will likely be looked at as a minor success because it "only" made 236 million
I'm so fucking sick of capitalism, you guys.
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Also I think people keep saying this will be the super hero movie that does badly and then Venom makes a butt ton of money so I fully expect this thing to do extremely well
Most of the other holiday releases for a younger audience look kinda bad this year, what else even is there? Mortal Engines?
Mary Poppins seems like a completely different end but if thats absolutely MASSIVE I could see it maybe eating into this, but thats the only way I see this not being really big
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
Even then no one was projecting just how big of a success it has been, comics fans of not
Clearing 800 million is fuckin bonkers
But the movie was fun and I liked it so sure why not
Also I think people keep saying this will be the super hero movie that does badly and then Venom makes a butt ton of money so I fully expect this thing to do extremely well
Most of the other holiday releases for a younger audience look kinda bad this year, what else even is there? Mortal Engines?
Mary Poppins seems like a completely different end but if thats absolutely MASSIVE I could see it maybe eating into this, but thats the only way I see this not being really big
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
I demand to see your charts, graphs and receipts for this statement
Also I think people keep saying this will be the super hero movie that does badly and then Venom makes a butt ton of money so I fully expect this thing to do extremely well
Most of the other holiday releases for a younger audience look kinda bad this year, what else even is there? Mortal Engines?
Mary Poppins seems like a completely different end but if thats absolutely MASSIVE I could see it maybe eating into this, but thats the only way I see this not being really big
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
Even then no one was projecting just how big of a success it has been, comics fans of not
Clearing 800 million is fuckin bonkers
But the movie was fun and I liked it so sure why not
oh yeah no it made insane bank; the kind no one predicts for like any non-avengers or transformers movie
and rightfully so
it's the best superhero movie in a decade.
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the movie-going public can't "hardy" wait for more mmm a-nmmmm venommmm
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Also I think people keep saying this will be the super hero movie that does badly and then Venom makes a butt ton of money so I fully expect this thing to do extremely well
Most of the other holiday releases for a younger audience look kinda bad this year, what else even is there? Mortal Engines?
Mary Poppins seems like a completely different end but if thats absolutely MASSIVE I could see it maybe eating into this, but thats the only way I see this not being really big
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
Even then no one was projecting just how big of a success it has been, comics fans of not
Clearing 800 million is fuckin bonkers
But the movie was fun and I liked it so sure why not
oh yeah no it made insane bank
and rightfully so
it's the best superhero movie in a decade.
I can genuinely never tell when you're just expressing an honest opinion that happens to differ willdly from everything else I've ever read and when you're just trying to rile people up.
I don't think AJ is ever just trying to rile people up.
Usually it's just a happy side-effect.
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Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
Also I think people keep saying this will be the super hero movie that does badly and then Venom makes a butt ton of money so I fully expect this thing to do extremely well
Most of the other holiday releases for a younger audience look kinda bad this year, what else even is there? Mortal Engines?
Mary Poppins seems like a completely different end but if thats absolutely MASSIVE I could see it maybe eating into this, but thats the only way I see this not being really big
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
Even then no one was projecting just how big of a success it has been, comics fans of not
Clearing 800 million is fuckin bonkers
But the movie was fun and I liked it so sure why not
oh yeah no it made insane bank
and rightfully so
it's the best superhero movie in a decade.
I can genuinely never tell when you're just expressing an honest opinion that happens to differ willdly from everything else I've ever read and when you're just trying to rile people up.
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Like I don't expect it to bomb, but a lot of the hype and advertising I've seen has been built around OH SHIT Y'ALL ITS MARY POPPINS AND SHE IS BACK
And while Mary Poppins is undeniably a family classic and something parents will remember fondly from their childhoods it...doesn't really seem like something younger generations care about? Like I'm 27 and I maybe only watched it once as a kid and didn't have any friends who gave a shit about it and I was friends with a lot of Disney loving theater nerds.
I wonder if they have overestimated just how universally beloved and important Mary Poppins is
lego batman is a good test study because that's overtly child focused, rather than this movie which is hitting more age ranges. And it did fine, but not amazing. I'd expect this movie to easily clear that bar.
And it made a lot of money!
For the most part, they can watch wherever they want.
Obviously there is a limit but most PG13 movies are fine to me.
(I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. Just stating what I do.)
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This is a pretty weird statement
you could apply this to basically anything before a trend for it starts
before x-men you could say "noone wants superhero movies! If there was money it it would have existed by now!!"
movies still cost money, and studios by and large want to spend it on sure things. with a dearth of animated comparison points, animated movies are never seen as those sure things. this also presumes studio execs don't fall victim to the same "conventional wisdom" that they in part help establish like "adults don't give a shit about cartoons! no money in em!" which I just don't think is accurate
It’s a bit further into the “for children” realm perhaps.
I am just a little older than you and I watched MP maybe....half a billion times? And my kids like it, although it's not their favorite disney movie. they think the laughing scene is the best thing put on cinema though.
Aquaman had its premiere in London on Monday night I think, so it's a case of look, people have actually seen this film now, any embargoes that may or may not have been agreed are off.
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It also did fine at the box office, clearing 5 times its budget.
The thing about that is capitalism only cares about The Most Profit, to the point where it will actively hamstring itself with bad decisions because it values what it sees as a sure thing over an unknown.
Even in the age of the MCU most movie execs can't conceive of superheroes as a big moneymaker and would be extremely hesitant to release a big-budget superhero cartoon in theaters.
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Action and adventure! Kids love that right?
This is another good point
RomComs are largely dead in theaters not because they don't make money but because they don't make insane billion dollar opening weekends
Companies want THE MOST MONEY and this is slightly different than what they know makes them THE MOST MONEY
Doesnt mean it won't still be very profitable
the cynic in me also says "let's check back in and see exactly how fully Hollywood has capitalized on the market success of your black panthers and crazies rich asian in a few and reexamine that statement"
this isn't to say I don't think change is possible (or in motion) but only that the people in charge are still entrenched and oh so fallible, they're not all capitalism wunderkinds
Jesus
I don't think I'd let a 16 year old see that movie
Like Crazy Rich Asians came out and is the 6th highest grossing one of all time but will likely be looked at as a minor success because it "only" made 236 million
A lot would, sure
But others would probably find the aliens to be pretty scary
i mean venom made bank because people fucking love venom
it was really only comics fan circles where there was any negativity towards the idea
I'm so fucking sick of capitalism, you guys.
yeah well it's not rated PG-17 chincy
Clearing 800 million is fuckin bonkers
But the movie was fun and I liked it so sure why not
I demand to see your charts, graphs and receipts for this statement
That would just be R Theodore
oh yeah no it made insane bank; the kind no one predicts for like any non-avengers or transformers movie
and rightfully so
it's the best superhero movie in a decade.
I can genuinely never tell when you're just expressing an honest opinion that happens to differ willdly from everything else I've ever read and when you're just trying to rile people up.
Usually it's just a happy side-effect.
totally different letters! one has numbers! whole different connotations
Literally always the first
NC-17 is the rating you are looking for Chilla
venom is the best superhero movie since 2008