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FFXI, Yes? No?
Kajusta
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So after my bout with WoW for about a year, and getting over that I've been really interested in something new to pour hours into. In light of this, I've heard good and bad things about FFXI. However, I think I'm going to need some opinions on this, so has anyone actually played FFXI extensively for months on end who can supply their opinion on it?
I'm looking for things like, what's the end-game like and etcetera and also if it's worth it to buy the base-game/expansion deal they have going.
I'm looking for things like, what's the end-game like and etcetera and also if it's worth it to buy the base-game/expansion deal they have going.
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If you have neither of those, or only have one, then no, absolutely not.
The story missions the game has are pretty rad, though.
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If you're asking me if I regret ever buying and playing the game? Not at all. I have a lot of awesome memories there, playing with all the SE++ folk on Carbuncle.
at lvl 18 you get a sub job and you have to go back to lvl 1 to lvl that job up.
then at lvl 30 you get an advanced class that you have to go back to lvl 1 to lvl up that job.
and getting from 1-30 takes a good ammount of time. im not sure if they changed this but it took me forever.
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Have you tried Dark Age of Camelot? To me, that was the hardest MMO ever, outside of Korea mind you because their MMO's are insane. They have softened it up considerably though, like artifacts and leveling up are now like 98% of what they used to be.
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For almost all jobs, a party is required to do anything. If you like to solo, you are limited severely in your job selection.
I think the game is pretty fun.
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Best story in any MMO hands down. The third expansion Chain of the Promathia fucking made me cry. thats right a grown man crying in an MMO storyline. and not because a she-male stole my stuff either.
it ate my soul for 2.5 years give it a try.
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and only 3rd if you count seperate products
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Still, though, I had fun with it. Changing jobs is unassailably cool and the story wasn't half bad, once I actually got around to it. And sometimes there are just little moments that made it for me, like when I got pulled away from killing crawlers for silks to help some low-level player get to San d'Oria, and he rewarded me with two crawler silks - exactly what I needed to make a stack for sale. :^:
Bottom line, there are better MMOs, but I still got plenty of bang for the monthly buck. As always, your mileage will vary.
Edit: I forget what the buddy keys thing is all about; they may be talking about world passes, which you need for specific servers, but I'm a bit behind on their offers and junk. You do have to pay for the software, though the first month is free, and I think they just released the game plus the expansions on DVD for about 30 bucks. Bit of a leap of faith, as it were.
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Edit: So apparently there is Chocobo raising? HOW DID THIS BYPASS ME
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Going to FFXI from warcraft..i think the worst thing will be finding quests. There are no yellow question marks here. and some quests cant be gotten til you get enough fame, and theres no real way to track fame save the cryptic remarks a few NPCs will throw at you when asked.
I'm so tempted to play this again...WoW might have burnt me out of the MMO scene for quite a while though.
Yeah, I heard from numerous people that the game actually starts getting really fun at around level 30-40...I don't know though, unless I suddenly pull the password out of my ass (considering it's not one of the ones I actually use) I think I'm out of luck unless I spend 30 or whatever it costs to buy the game
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durno why but i went original release > the sky one > cop > toau > the new one
5 releases by my count. 2nd was a seperate expansion for japan not for us.
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Release > Zilart > Chains > Persia > new one.
Zilart was the one with the retail in the states. That'd be 4 in the US 5 in Japan, ONLY if you count release, which since it's not an expansion you wouldn't.
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dude you said 5 expansions, not 5 releases.
everything i said was fully correct
lets argue about it we'll probably get somewhere with it. it's saturday night i'm playing pokemon and typing on the internet. IM DRUNK DUH
ps. i was an awesome Paladin. Kujata fo life
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lol that is sick...why praytell?
but then again...dont. in it's day this game was the smiz and good heavens could it eat every living piece of your life away. XI was my first and last.
funny thing is I still keep up with all my old linkshell pals and we all play xbox live now almost every night. going from fantasy names to rl names is an odd transition. heh, but fun.
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that's 9 different FFXI products by the way
you shoulda tried 11 it was an awesome game. I made a lot of great friends there and for an mmo the story was outstanding. music is honestly the best in the series. thats just my opinion but it holds water.
anyfroot going to bed OP try it out good game. just be careful it doesnt eat you
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1) Gaining levels takes longer.
2) Getting money/Finding equipment takes longer.
3) The way the job system is set up, you need to level up two separate classes individually.
4) Aside from the first couple of hours, grouping is an absolutely necessity. From what my friends who were really into the game tell me, it's not uncommon to spend more time trying to find a group to party with than you spend actually playing.
5) Since FFXI is an older game, it's mostly populated by people who have been playing it religiously for quite some time making it extra hard to find less experienced players to team up with. Starting this late in the game could be very difficult unless you have some friends to help you out.
So unless you're planning on making it a full time occupation, I wouldn't worry too much about FFXI's endgame since you're unlikely to get there this year. Maybe 2008 if you're really dedicated.
Personally, I would recommend you take a break from MMORPGs for a couple months and then give WoW another shot (maybe try a different class). Or if you really want another MMORPG, Lord of the Rings Online is new and apparently rather good.
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That pretty much made me never want to have anything to do with this game.
Quoted for truth.
Compared to WoW, the grind in FFXI is obscene. The point about waiting for groups is true as well, at least it was when I played. You can spend a long time just looking for a group, but that's only the beginning, because you don't just want a group, you want a good group and anyone with experience of PUG's knows how tricky this can be. This is even more important in this game, because in order to get decent experience (combos and the like), you need people who knows what they're doing, who knows their class, and who gets along with others.
However, there is a great game in there somewhere, buried under grinding and forced grouping. I played it for a while, but I would never dream of going back.
Here it is, spoiled for huge:
I understand that SE may have changed its policies regarding gilsellers and reporting them, though. I certainly hope they have; they ignored the problem for far too long.
I loved playing FFXI in beta and for a few months after release. But then all its flaws got to be too much to look past. A version of FFXI that is actually fun to play would be awesome. The art, music, writing, quests and missions are fantastic. Much of the rest of the game is apparently designed to make you hate life. The recent additions and improvements haven't changed the unfun core gameplay.
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Good start to the day. Pity it's going to be the worst one of your life. The light is now on.
For instance, the first time I leveled a job, 4-5k/hr was considered godly. You need about 4-5k xp to level say from level 25-26. Now I can grind out 3-4k/hr solo fairly easy with the signet on my low level jobs and 4-5k an hour is considered mediocre in a party. For level 75 (maxed), a crappy pickup of random party usually makes around 8k/hr. My linkshell (guild) parties have achieved around 20k/hr. There's some extremely pimped out players that can do even more than this.
If I didn't have my group of friends I play with, there's no question that I'd quit. The overall frusteration of trying to accomplish team intensive missions, boss arena fights (bcnm) and other activities that require 6+ is extremely high.
They've changed some things for the better: Signet bonus to fighting things that are lower level than you. Before you could expect to die fighting something that was slightly lower level than you. Now most jobs can solo easy prey or decent challenge mobs while looking for a group. In addition, they've increased the rate of healing when you rest. Added bonus points to smaller groups so you can duo/trio for decent xp. Most players dont but I've done it and its a nice boost.
Many gilsellers were banned, yes they are still there but they arn't in the way as much anymore. Part of this is making many items Rare/ex (Soul bound), the tradeable version is moved to a boss fight style battle which are usually pretty fun.
tl;dr horrible if you want to play solo all the way. fantastic if you can make some friends in mmos
That screenshot you posted is truly depressing.
I would love a fun version of FFXI, because I really liked the setting and the beautiful art. There were times where everything would just snap together in the game. A good PUG, friendly people, etc, but most of the time it was just waiting, grinding, dying, frustration, and omg i hate this so much.
I'm getting increasingly pessimistic about MMOG's, actually. I'm hoping that the Conan MMOG and Warhammer will be good, but I'm sure they will fuck them both up somehow. I do play Guild Wars, but I treat it like a single player RPG that just happens to be online.
Also the grind has gone down in the past few years. Leveling in parties of 2-3 is now viable, exp bonuses ease the grind, and the new jobs are much more interactive.
edit: oh and SE did change their policy on gil selling to the point that gill sellers are virtually non-existent.
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Dude just try to log on first.