[SCOTUS] thread we dreaded updates for because RIP RBG

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    You do not need standing to file an amicus curiae. Its basically just a formal letter telling the court how you think they should rule. Think of it like trying to do the judges homework for them.

    Oh, missed that. The words "leave to file" jumped out and I just assumed they were trying to join or filing their own lawsuit because SovCit!

  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    edited December 2020


    Texas lawsuit seeking to throw out the votes of predominately black citizens in four states has been rejected by SCOTUS for lack of standing

    NPR is National Public Radio

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited December 2020
    Also, since the thread got bumped and I don't like seeing it on the front page, but since it's here already, some other semi-positive news from earlier this week?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics/supreme-court-transgender-bathrooms-oregon/index.html
    The Supreme Court declined on Monday to take up a case from parents in Oregon who challenged a public school's policy allowing a transgender student to use the bathroom that corresponded with his gender identity.

    The petition was considered a long shot because of several complicated threshold issues, including the fact that the policy had been put in place five years ago for one student -- referred to as "student A" -- who has since graduated from the high school located in Dallas, Oregon. At issue was an individualized plan drawn up specifically for "student A."

    In declining to take up the petition, the justices left in place an appeals court decision earlier this year that held that the school's policy intended to "avoid discrimination and ensure the safety and well-being of transgender students."

    Second case where they're treating transgender as effectively settled law?

    e: And as a note, I say semi- only because I read some commentary that this one was a ridiculous case to begin with, so we can't necessarily treat its dismissal as indicative of the court's position.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »


    Texas lawsuit seeking to throw out the votes of predominately black citizens in four states has been rejected by SCOTUS for lack of standing

    NPR is National Public Radio
    Texas does not have the legal right to sue Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin because it “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections.”

    Source:

    AP is a news organization.

    Not quite the "what? fuck you" response it warranted, but still ok.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know Texas booniesRegistered User regular
    It kind of is? Like denying to even hear it is basically saying "No, that's not how that works, fuck off"

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  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    saying they have "not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest" is pretty harsh in lawyer speak

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    It's legalese for "fuck off with that bullshit", essentially

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler Registered User regular
    Yeah, I realize it's "you have not demonstrated even the basic criteria of viability," I'm just saying that a plain English "what? fuck you" would have been more viscerally satisfying.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Yeah, I realize it's "you have not demonstrated even the basic criteria of viability," I'm just saying that a plain English "what? fuck you" would have been more viscerally satisfying.

    Nah, they should have broken out some Latin for this. That's how you know you done fucked up.

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  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Yeah, I realize it's "you have not demonstrated even the basic criteria of viability," I'm just saying that a plain English "what? fuck you" would have been more viscerally satisfying.

    Nah, they should have broken out some Latin for this. That's how you know you done fucked up.

    Latin is like when your mom includes your middle name

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Yeah, I realize it's "you have not demonstrated even the basic criteria of viability," I'm just saying that a plain English "what? fuck you" would have been more viscerally satisfying.

    Nah, they should have broken out some Latin for this. That's how you know you done fucked up.

    Latin is like when your mom includes your middle name

    Let see if i can remember enough Catullus to placate jdarksun's request (with a little Texas flavor added):

    "Quid! Te futueo et caballum tuum!"

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  • ChanusChanus I've seen things... Registered User regular
    i only know "Cornelia est puella romana" so i'm gonna take your word for it

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i only know "Cornelia est puella romana" so i'm gonna take your word for it

    If my conjugation is correct it says:
    What?! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

    First they came for the Muslims and we said...NOT TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS!
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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    My favorite part is that even Alito and Thomas, who believe that the court must allow filings arising within its original jurisdiction, threw in that they wouldn’t grant any other relief.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    ICE delenda est

    ... that's all I got

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i only know "Cornelia est puella romana" so i'm gonna take your word for it

    Ecce Romani! Los lupum in sylvam es.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i only know "Cornelia est puella romana" so i'm gonna take your word for it

    If my conjugation is correct it says:
    What?! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

    I think you're probably off on some technical aspect - probably word order, if my long-dormant recollections are still reliable - but you're definitely correct in spirit.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Latin doesn't actually care about word order super much, although there were definitely standard ways to speak and write.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2020
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Latin doesn't actually care about word order super much, although there were definitely standard ways to speak and write.

    Kind of like adjectives in English don't really have to go in any particular order, but they absolutely do

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Order particular

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Order particular

    License poetic.

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  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    When I first heard of the Texas suit, my first thought was "how can they possibly have standing in regards to another state's election?" It was a great relief to hear "they don't". But SCOTUS actually saying the judicial equivalent of "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." brought a smile to my face.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Order particular

    License poetic.

    Is planet forbidden!

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Overshadowed by *waves at everything* SCOTUS issued a ruling recently that pandemic or no, women *must* pick up abortion pills in person. For Reasons. Note that even with that requirement in place, the pills are not taken in Dr's offices. The dosing is done at home. And the FDA *did* remote that requirement for other drugs with worse side effects.

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/01/justices-grant-fda-request-to-block-mail-delivery-of-abortion-pills/

    (why this rule withstands even basic scrutiny pandemic or no I have no idea).

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler Registered User regular
  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Order particular

    License poetic.

    And every native speaker knows this is breaking the order.

    Three red cars

    Red three cars

    It sounds odd and that proves the existence of an order.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him Bury me at Lone Tree DenRegistered User regular
    Red Three Cars are for Biggs Darklighter stans

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Order particular

    License poetic.

    And every native speaker knows this is breaking the order.

    Three red cars

    Red three cars

    It sounds odd and that proves the existence of an order.

    They're not reordering the adjectives in either of those examples, though, just moving the single adjective after the vowel, which is acceptable usage for emphasis or to strike an antiquated tone. The equivalent would be "red cars three" or "three cars red."

    See also:

    Attorney general

    Eggs Benedict

    Warriors Three

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    edit - not the thread

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    The post noun order is specifically a reference to the latin and french construction. It isn’t a break in the order rules or even really an exception, its a variation of the order rules to apply a more formal effect or make something into a compound (and most often proper) noun.

    Latin specifically was used over such a wide spread of time its hard to pin down pronunciations and sentence constructions exactly though. If you went back to ancient Rome and used modern legal constructions and pronunciations (or modern liturgical constructions and pronunciations) you would get a ton of funny looks and blank stares.

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