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[Hiberno-Britannic Politics] My Better Brexit Deal Goes To Another School

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    I like ready salted. The centrist dad choice.

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    Probably some kind of fancy neoliberal sea salt instead of honest table salt

    pink Himalayan salted crisps

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Prawn Cocktail is best

    On skips yes

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  • Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Seabrook Prawn Cocktail is best

    Fixed.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    I don't think I ever ate non-Walkers crisps in the UK.
    Just didn't seem to be the done thing.

    I'm pretty they are just rebranded Lay's chips from the U.S.

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    You're all philistines, cheese and onion is the only way.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    You're all philistines, cheese and onion is the only way.

    I am an Onion Purist and a Tayto Radical

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    halkun wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    I don't think I ever ate non-Walkers crisps in the UK.
    Just didn't seem to be the done thing.

    I'm pretty they are just rebranded Lay's chips from the U.S.

    It's even the same logo.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    halkun wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    I don't think I ever ate non-Walkers crisps in the UK.
    Just didn't seem to be the done thing.

    I'm pretty they are just rebranded Lay's chips from the U.S.

    It's even the same logo.

    They're both pepsico brands now, hence the convergence of branding, but walkers was originally established in the UK. They have made a fairly big deal in the past about using exclusively British potatoes.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo But do you really believe him? Registered User regular
    Bogart secretly loves prosecco and winter berry crisps. He just hides it well.
    halkun wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    I don't think I ever ate non-Walkers crisps in the UK.
    Just didn't seem to be the done thing.

    I'm pretty they are just rebranded Lay's chips from the U.S.

    Walkers was a British crisp company but Frito-Lay acquired them ages ago, so they probably are fairly similar beasts (although you'd be surprised at regional variations in nominally identical branded foods)

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    the samboys tomato chips are very good but i don't know if it's against the rules to talk about australian chip brands in the uk politics thread

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I'm sorry Britain, I really don't get this. I know the US isn't much better but why is your government pushing to leave when they clearly don't have a clue? Why was article 50 invoked when you didn't have a plan? Instead of leave or stay, shouldn't the debate have been about a specific leave plan versus staying? You know, to prevent vauge promises that can't be kept?

    Like even from over hear I can see that the leave side is not united. There are tons of different ideas on how to leave. The fact that Norway Plus is being argued at this stage seems crazy! Youregovernment decided to jump out of a plane and then get their parachute in working order!

    Am I missing something? Or is it really that bad?

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  • BogartBogart Because I hate you Registered User, Moderator mod
    the samboys tomato chips are very good but i don't know if it's against the rules to talk about australian chip brands in the uk politics thread

    Calling them chips at the same time in the U.K. thread is basically a bannable offence.

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  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Registered User regular
    If we're allowed to bring in outside... crisps... Britain need to steal some All-Dressed from Canadaland:

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    *looks at thread*

    What have I done

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Potatoes.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    “Ireland can eat baby flavored crisps”

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular


    (Business Insider reporter)

    I'm kind of torn here, if the polling is genuinely telling Labour that their supporters don't want a second vote.

    I suppose it feels slightly cynical, given that there are no non-catastrophic options that won't be subject to this betrayal narrative, to pick the option most likely to put them in the position of governing the wreckage rather than trying to forestall the catastrophe in the first place.

  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »


    (Business Insider reporter)

    I'm kind of torn here, if the polling is genuinely telling Labour that their supporters don't want a second vote.

    I suppose it feels slightly cynical, given that there are no non-catastrophic options that won't be subject to this betrayal narrative, to pick the option most likely to put them in the position of governing the wreckage rather than trying to forestall the catastrophe in the first place.

    My question is if these polls are just composed of elderly demographics? I don't believe that the majority of labour voters are pro brexit, I also don't believe that pro brexit old labour voters will move to the tories. They'd either abstain or most likley keep voting labour.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    the samboys tomato chips are very good but i don't know if it's against the rules to talk about australian chip brands in the uk politics thread

    I feel that in some, charming way, Australia is always against the rules

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »


    (Business Insider reporter)

    I'm kind of torn here, if the polling is genuinely telling Labour that their supporters don't want a second vote.

    I suppose it feels slightly cynical, given that there are no non-catastrophic options that won't be subject to this betrayal narrative, to pick the option most likely to put them in the position of governing the wreckage rather than trying to forestall the catastrophe in the first place.

    Ahh yes, the best reason to sell the entire country down the river.

    This is just more of what we already knew: Corbyn is more interested in winning the election after the Tories break the UK then he is in actually fixing the problem.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Corbyn supporters are still claiming he isn't a huge coward?

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    So enough Labour poll-respondents believe his magical unicorn brexit shit huh

    Will nobody learn from Cameron’s example

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    So enough Labour poll-respondents believe his magical unicorn brexit shit huh

    Will nobody learn from Cameron’s example

    Cause the whole fiasco and then fuck off to somewhere?

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    So enough Labour poll-respondents believe his magical unicorn brexit shit huh

    Will nobody learn from Cameron’s example

    That feels like the piece of information that's missing.

    The reasons why people oppose a second ref matter. If what they think they're going to get instead is nonsense then the responsible thing is to tell them that, not indulge notions that are going to see thousands of people out of work.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    So enough Labour poll-respondents believe his magical unicorn brexit shit huh

    Will nobody learn from Cameron’s example

    Cause the whole fiasco and then fuck off to somewhere?

    Playing brexit for political advantage

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    So enough Labour poll-respondents believe his magical unicorn brexit shit huh

    Will nobody learn from Cameron’s example

    Cause the whole fiasco and then fuck off to somewhere?

    Playing brexit for political advantage

    Seems to still be working, so why not?

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck the search for the means to put an end to things an end to speech is what enables the discourse to continue ~ * ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) excelsior * ~Registered User regular
    If we're allowed to bring in outside... crisps... Britain need to steal some All-Dressed from Canadaland:

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    i actually ebayed £50 of all dressed from canada a few weeks ago, turns up soon i am prepared

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    Solar wrote: »
    Seabrook Prawn Cocktail is best

    Fixed.

    is seabrook the local brand from bradford? i heard good things

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/100414/jeremy-corbyn-blasts-neoliberal-eu-he-calls
    "We have to recognise that EU support for austerity and failed neoliberal policies have caused serious hardship for working people across Europe, damaged the credibility of European social democratic parties, and played a significant role in the vote for Brexit.

    "European socialists have to fight for a different kind of Europe."
    But the UK wasn't a country the EU forced into austerity. It was always a political choice made by British leaders.

    I don't get how you can both Brexit and not end up having to have austerity measures.
    He said: "Our prize is a new progressive economic consensus that secures shared prosperity built on a powerful public realm.

    "We must build a new Europe, inside and outside the institutions of the EU, that really does work for the many, not the few."
    HOW!?

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Jeremy I too am a leftist and I too want to restructure society along better lines and I have to ask: what the fuck are you on about

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Also, why do you expect an organization that you intend on no longer being part of to listen to you?

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  • Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Seabrook Prawn Cocktail is best

    Fixed.

    is seabrook the local brand from bradford? i heard good things

    Yes. Their Prawn Cocktail is the gold standard.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, why do you expect an organization that you intend on no longer being part of to listen to you?

    This has honestly been the most frustrating thing from the leftist end of the Brexit spectrum. I agree, ideologically, with a lot of the objections that crowd have with the EU. I totally get why individual socialists might want to scrape their hands clean, even at the expense of the national economy. I do not understand how a national political party with a commitment to the working class can look at the inevitable destructive outcome for their own least-well-off citizens, alongside the situations in greece and italy, and say "yeah, best option is for us to run the fuck away and leave them all to it." The UK has (or had) a ridiculous amount of pull within the Union, so it's an obscene abdication of moral accountability, and ok, sure, if you get into power and stay in the EU you are gonna feel morally tarnished, but that's true both ways.

    I can only assume the end-game for that particular ideological outlook, back in 2016, was the total collapse of the EU, precipitated by the UK's abandonment. I think it's pretty obvious now that that calculation was quite likely to have been way off, so not readjusting expectations and accounting for, you know, reality, is being just as pig-headed as the neoliberal fucks trying to run the country.

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  • MeeqeMeeqe Lord of the pants most fancy Someplace amazingRegistered User regular
    Ideology before people isn't limited to any given portion of the political spectrum.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Solar wrote: »
    Jeremy I too am a leftist and I too want to restructure society along better lines and I have to ask: what the fuck are you on about

    The same thing all the left-wing pro-Brexiters are always on about. Like seriously, I talk to some of these people and this is like verbatim the kind of shit they go on about. Corbyn has also so obviously been one of those nuts on the left so concerned with neoliberal EU he can't see the forest for the trees. Which is not an uncommon problem in general there. Zero sense of perspective.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Meeqe wrote: »
    Ideology before people isn't limited to any given portion of the political spectrum.

    yeah I know, and we have a lot of totalitarian regimes to point to that show that pretty well. It's just annoying.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Also, why do you expect an organization that you intend on no longer being part of to listen to you?

    This has honestly been the most frustrating thing from the leftist end of the Brexit spectrum. I agree, ideologically, with a lot of the objections that crowd have with the EU. I totally get why individual socialists might want to scrape their hands clean, even at the expense of the national economy. I do not understand how a national political party with a commitment to the working class can look at the inevitable destructive outcome for their own least-well-off citizens, alongside the situations in greece and italy, and say "yeah, best option is for us to run the fuck away and leave them all to it." The UK has (or had) a ridiculous amount of pull within the Union, so it's an obscene abdication of moral accountability, and ok, sure, if you get into power and stay in the EU you are gonna feel morally tarnished, but that's true both ways.

    I can only assume the end-game for that particular ideological outlook, back in 2016, was the total collapse of the EU, precipitated by the UK's abandonment. I think it's pretty obvious now that that calculation was quite likely to have been way off, so not readjusting expectations and accounting for, you know, reality, is being just as pig-headed as the neoliberal fucks trying to run the country.

    It's basically just accelerationism by another means. And plenty of people on the left love that shit. Always have. "After Hitler, our turn!" and all that.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Edit: oops, halkun, hippofant, japan, & mojo_jojo beat me to the punch. Should've checked for a new page before posting.
    Jazz wrote: »
    I'm blaming this entirely on Brexiters. Look, it even says Brussels on it!

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    hippofant wrote: »
    ^ Owned by PepsiCo, the American multinational.

    Something something but the real enemy is the EU something something.

    I was gonna say that logo is almost identical to Lay's brand.
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    Wonder who used it first?

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Also, why do you expect an organization that you intend on no longer being part of to listen to you?

    This has honestly been the most frustrating thing from the leftist end of the Brexit spectrum. I agree, ideologically, with a lot of the objections that crowd have with the EU. I totally get why individual socialists might want to scrape their hands clean, even at the expense of the national economy. I do not understand how a national political party with a commitment to the working class can look at the inevitable destructive outcome for their own least-well-off citizens, alongside the situations in greece and italy, and say "yeah, best option is for us to run the fuck away and leave them all to it." The UK has (or had) a ridiculous amount of pull within the Union, so it's an obscene abdication of moral accountability, and ok, sure, if you get into power and stay in the EU you are gonna feel morally tarnished, but that's true both ways.

    I can only assume the end-game for that particular ideological outlook, back in 2016, was the total collapse of the EU, precipitated by the UK's abandonment. I think it's pretty obvious now that that calculation was quite likely to have been way off, so not readjusting expectations and accounting for, you know, reality, is being just as pig-headed as the neoliberal fucks trying to run the country.

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  • Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    God, I wish the most devisive subject we had to talk about in the UKpol thread was crisp flavours.

    I dreamed a dream in times gone byyy~~

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