You can probably hit 60 in 5 days of straight playtime, expect it to take at least 4 weeks putting in a few hours every night.
You're painting with an overly broad brush here.
The streamers that named their guild after white supremacy, sure. But there are plenty of people who stream and aren't like that.
Majority of online streamers streaming Vanilla WoW in beta alliance side are in Make Azeroth Great Again. Like even guys that are mostly not political like Gothalion are there.
and i'll be playing on a different server than those people. should be really easy to google where all of them are going after the realm lists are up
The streamers will likely stick to PvP servers too, so, very easy to avoid because PvP servers are mostly a bunch of awful to begin with.
I know Towliee is going PvE for his "main" server because he knows with his viewer count he'd not be able to do most things if he was on a pvp server. I wonder if Blizzard will do something about that kind of stream sniping since even though Asmo is a drama magnet asshole, he gets 30K viewers on twitch and that's big advertisements.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
The streamers will likely stick to PvP servers too, so, very easy to avoid because PvP servers are mostly a bunch of awful to begin with.
I know Towliee is going PvE for his "main" server because he knows with his viewer count he'd not be able to do most things if he was on a pvp server. I wonder if Blizzard will do something about that kind of stream sniping since even though Asmo is a drama magnet asshole, he gets 30K viewers on twitch and that's big advertisements.
vanilla is vanilla, warts and all
"if someone is griefing you, you have tools for dealing with it"
that's even one of help messages on the loading screen/manual I think
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
The streamers will likely stick to PvP servers too, so, very easy to avoid because PvP servers are mostly a bunch of awful to begin with.
I know Towliee is going PvE for his "main" server because he knows with his viewer count he'd not be able to do most things if he was on a pvp server. I wonder if Blizzard will do something about that kind of stream sniping since even though Asmo is a drama magnet asshole, he gets 30K viewers on twitch and that's big advertisements.
vanilla is vanilla, warts and all
"if someone is griefing you, you have tools for dealing with it"
that's even one of help messages on the loading screen/manual I think
Again they say that now, but we'll see in retail if they keep that same stance. And what tools do people even have for getting griefed? Swap to a different character? Doesn't work if you're a streamer they can see where you are and follow you. I guess you can stream delay but that has a side effect of ruining chat interaction that most streamers build their community on (don't know if that's true of asmo).
All I know in beta is that all the world pvp I've seen has been 2 to 1 horde ganks on asmo, and if that's in live I can't see them ignoring it.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
The streamers will likely stick to PvP servers too, so, very easy to avoid because PvP servers are mostly a bunch of awful to begin with.
I know Towliee is going PvE for his "main" server because he knows with his viewer count he'd not be able to do most things if he was on a pvp server. I wonder if Blizzard will do something about that kind of stream sniping since even though Asmo is a drama magnet asshole, he gets 30K viewers on twitch and that's big advertisements.
vanilla is vanilla, warts and all
"if someone is griefing you, you have tools for dealing with it"
that's even one of help messages on the loading screen/manual I think
In vanilla, the GM policy was that if a player of the opposite faction is griefing you in some way that you couldn't avoid on a PvE server, it's reportable. If they're doing it on a PvP server, kill them.
I just can't see that being a real stance with how streamers are used for advertisements for games (like ea paid people a million to play apex). It remains to be seen because people want that open world gank fest back, but I dunno if those being ganked are going to keep playing those servers if they literally can't do anything. There is not much content in getting chain ganked.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Ran a pickup Dazar Alor raid (normal difficulty) tonight on my newish Lightforged Priest. Made it from the beginning to Stormwall Blockade before the raid got...stormwalled. Not enough randos know the mechanics of phase 2 and we wiped 3-4 times at around 40% before the raid fell apart.
Despite not making it to the end, I had a good time. That raid is...different from the Alliance perspective.
And!!!
I got the Opulence caster trinket. Forged to 390. Yay.
I just can't see that being a real stance with how streamers are used for advertisements for games (like ea paid people a million to play apex). It remains to be seen because people want that open world gank fest back, but I dunno if those being ganked are going to keep playing those servers if they literally can't do anything. There is not much content in getting chain ganked.
They're streamers, they have just as many in their fanclub as that want to kill them.
This is the whole draw of classic, setting cartels and bodyguards and shit.
Blizzard won't do shit.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
since they have the most free time of pretty much every player, they'll probably be among the highest on the server so there won't be much ganking of them
there'll be huge battles of players in open world pvp but /shrug
that's vanilla for ya
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
The streamers will likely stick to PvP servers too, so, very easy to avoid because PvP servers are mostly a bunch of awful to begin with.
I know Towliee is going PvE for his "main" server because he knows with his viewer count he'd not be able to do most things if he was on a pvp server. I wonder if Blizzard will do something about that kind of stream sniping since even though Asmo is a drama magnet asshole, he gets 30K viewers on twitch and that's big advertisements.
vanilla is vanilla, warts and all
"if someone is griefing you, you have tools for dealing with it"
that's even one of help messages on the loading screen/manual I think
Again they say that now, but we'll see in retail if they keep that same stance. And what tools do people even have for getting griefed? Swap to a different character? Doesn't work if you're a streamer they can see where you are and follow you. I guess you can stream delay but that has a side effect of ruining chat interaction that most streamers build their community on (don't know if that's true of asmo).
All I know in beta is that all the world pvp I've seen has been 2 to 1 horde ganks on asmo, and if that's in live I can't see them ignoring it.
Streamers could just as easily have a posse of defenders to support their leveling if they need it. Who knows, that's just a whole new world that wasn't a thing during vanilla. It would be chaos but probably good viewing.
Lots of them have already said they would need to play pve to avoid the stream sniping/griefing. Im sure some will be pvp still though.
Today i finally got around to do crucible just to do the quests. That was one of the worst raids ive ever been in. People had no idea what was going on. 99% of the fights could be explained as “dont stand in purple and do a tank swap every so often”. We got a few stacks of determination on both fights. I put out a dumb amount of healing and was like 6th in damage on my disc priest. Also the nzoth whispers are kinda cool from not getting rid of my nzoth village naruto headband.
I mean, I do remember the old days of KoA vs. Panda Attack. That was fun.
Gabe used to have a squad of rogues (Rogue Squadron) hanging around in zones where he was questing, and some fun organic pitched battles cropped up out of that.
Will actually be interesting to see how they go now that people's computers can actually handle it better.
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I mean, I do remember the old days of KoA vs. Panda Attack. That was fun.
Gabe used to have a squad of rogues (Rogue Squadron) hanging around in zones where he was questing, and some fun organic pitched battles cropped up out of that.
Will actually be interesting to see how they go now that people's computers can actually handle it better.
I was running around in the stress test server in front of stormwind where the GMs were spawning vancleef and ragnaros and stuff. There were probably no joke 1000+ people in the area and it was working better than on retail with 40 people in the same area. It's probably a substantial amount less overhead when the server doesn't have to process 10 random auras on every character, access whatever their transmog database looks like, higher def models, and no flying anything.
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Man Blizzard really fucked something up in the War Mode faction number balancing code at some point. I keep ending up in zones where Alliance players have the +20% bonus, because there are fewer Alliance players in War Mode, but I see 5-10 Alliance players for every Horde player I run into.
Alliance usually form groups to get the pvp quest done, which will phase over some people, and of course groups will be more concentrated vs people just running around solo.
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I mean this is something I've seen loads of times, largely in areas that don't have the Invasions going on. I think something about how it tries to do player balancing just fundamentally doesn't work if the numbers aren't fairly close to begin with.
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Man Blizzard really fucked something up in the War Mode faction number balancing code at some point. I keep ending up in zones where Alliance players have the +20% bonus, because there are fewer Alliance players in War Mode, but I see 5-10 Alliance players for every Horde player I run into.
The algorithm, it does not work.
The percentage bonus is region wide, it only differs between EU and NA, not within shards or servers.
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Man Blizzard really fucked something up in the War Mode faction number balancing code at some point. I keep ending up in zones where Alliance players have the +20% bonus, because there are fewer Alliance players in War Mode, but I see 5-10 Alliance players for every Horde player I run into.
The algorithm, it does not work.
The percentage bonus is region wide, it only differs between EU and NA, not within shards or servers.
Then either their matchmaking algorithms for playercounts flat out do not work, or Alliance players on my shard all form raid groups just to go mess with Horde players while Horde players mostly play non open world content, because since I came back (~5 weeks ago) I have yet to encounter a world instance in which Horde was not severely outnumbered.
But this past week Alliance had a quest to kill 25 players in War Mode. Horde might have had something similar but I haven't logged into my Horde characters since I took my break and came back to Alliance. And anyway, I wanted to do the 25 war mode kills quest because it had a 395 item chest as a reward. So I pulled up ye olde group finder, searched for custom groups, and saw no less than about 10 groups listed for doing that quest. So yeah. Maybe it's just a thing that's happening this week. Because that was 10ish groups in the group finder at one specific time of day. I'd imagine it has been like that all week/weekend for as long as the quest has been active.
On a different topic, has anyone else experienced pretty crippling lag while in Drustvar this past weekend? It's only in that one zone. I play on Stormrage server and I'm totally fine anywhere else in the world. But I finished Stormsong Valley, got the meta achievement for completing all chapters, and moved on to Drustvar. But I can't play in Drustvar because that zone has a 3-5 second delay on anything I try to do. It clears up as soon as I leave.
On a different topic, has anyone else experienced pretty crippling lag while in Drustvar this past weekend? It's only in that one zone. I play on Stormrage server and I'm totally fine anywhere else in the world. But I finished Stormsong Valley, got the meta achievement for completing all chapters, and moved on to Drustvar. But I can't play in Drustvar because that zone has a 3-5 second delay on anything I try to do. It clears up as soon as I leave.
It could be that for whatever reason when you enter those zones its putting you into a phase hosted on an australian or latin america server. I can always immediately tell when that happens because for basically no other reason the lag gets way higher. Same joining instance groups.
Just another reason classic looks attractive. No playing on servers/cross server halfway across the world.
On a different topic, has anyone else experienced pretty crippling lag while in Drustvar this past weekend? It's only in that one zone. I play on Stormrage server and I'm totally fine anywhere else in the world. But I finished Stormsong Valley, got the meta achievement for completing all chapters, and moved on to Drustvar. But I can't play in Drustvar because that zone has a 3-5 second delay on anything I try to do. It clears up as soon as I leave.
It could be that for whatever reason when you enter those zones its putting you into a phase hosted on an australian or latin america server. I can always immediately tell when that happens because for basically no other reason the lag gets way higher. Same joining instance groups.
Just another reason classic looks attractive. No playing on servers/cross server halfway across the world.
I was just reading on the forums that apparently going into/out of war mode will reset your phasing. Maybe next time I get into a situation where Drustvar is unplayable I will try that and see if it helps. Maybe I can force my way into a more stable shard.
So I just discovered, regarding Battle for Dazar Alor:
Horde: take a flight path out of the city you are defending, ride your mount to the raid portal. Raid portal is outside of the city you are defending. Travel time: 2-3 minutes.
Alliance: portal inside your capital city, ride your mount there. Travel time: 15 seconds.
So I just discovered, regarding Battle for Dazar Alor:
Horde: take a flight path out of the city you are defending, ride your mount to the raid portal. Raid portal is outside of the city you are defending. Travel time: 2-3 minutes.
Alliance: portal inside your capital city, ride your mount there. Travel time: 15 seconds.
What sense does that make?
They should have just stuck an npc in the inn that was like 'yo, do you want to join the battle?'
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So I just discovered, regarding Battle for Dazar Alor:
Horde: take a flight path out of the city you are defending, ride your mount to the raid portal. Raid portal is outside of the city you are defending. Travel time: 2-3 minutes.
Alliance: portal inside your capital city, ride your mount there. Travel time: 15 seconds.
What sense does that make?
I guess as much sense as how much easier it is to get around Boralus than Dazar'alor.
I think the shittiest thing about dazar'alor is how it doesn't even feel like a city. It feels like one room and a bunch of massive massive staircases that lead from a flightpath to a point of interest.
So I just discovered, regarding Battle for Dazar Alor:
Horde: take a flight path out of the city you are defending, ride your mount to the raid portal. Raid portal is outside of the city you are defending. Travel time: 2-3 minutes.
Alliance: portal inside your capital city, ride your mount there. Travel time: 15 seconds.
What sense does that make?
Given how the layout of Dazar Alor for Horde players actually doing stuff in it worked out, I'm not surprised.
That you need to take a flight path to go from the portals and stuff to the boat is stupid, and the flight path only takes you halfway. Boralus by comparison is an achievement in modern engineering.
So, I haven't been to the Un'Goro Crater in literal years. Like, maybe since Vanilla. I've been leveling up my Zandalari, and decided to progress through that zone because I remember really liking it back in the day. Lots of good memories. Anyway, I gathered up as many Bloodpetal Sprouts as I could, because I remembered that Dadanga loves them, and Dadanga is hungry!
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I'll admit it, guys; I wasn't ready for the feels.
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and i'll be playing on a different server than those people. should be really easy to google where all of them are going after the realm lists are up
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That's why I said mostly. Not all, but most.
I know Towliee is going PvE for his "main" server because he knows with his viewer count he'd not be able to do most things if he was on a pvp server. I wonder if Blizzard will do something about that kind of stream sniping since even though Asmo is a drama magnet asshole, he gets 30K viewers on twitch and that's big advertisements.
pleasepaypreacher.net
vanilla is vanilla, warts and all
"if someone is griefing you, you have tools for dealing with it"
that's even one of help messages on the loading screen/manual I think
Again they say that now, but we'll see in retail if they keep that same stance. And what tools do people even have for getting griefed? Swap to a different character? Doesn't work if you're a streamer they can see where you are and follow you. I guess you can stream delay but that has a side effect of ruining chat interaction that most streamers build their community on (don't know if that's true of asmo).
All I know in beta is that all the world pvp I've seen has been 2 to 1 horde ganks on asmo, and if that's in live I can't see them ignoring it.
pleasepaypreacher.net
In vanilla, the GM policy was that if a player of the opposite faction is griefing you in some way that you couldn't avoid on a PvE server, it's reportable. If they're doing it on a PvP server, kill them.
I'm completely serious.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Despite not making it to the end, I had a good time. That raid is...different from the Alliance perspective.
And!!!
I got the Opulence caster trinket. Forged to 390. Yay.
They're streamers, they have just as many in their fanclub as that want to kill them.
This is the whole draw of classic, setting cartels and bodyguards and shit.
Blizzard won't do shit.
since they have the most free time of pretty much every player, they'll probably be among the highest on the server so there won't be much ganking of them
there'll be huge battles of players in open world pvp but /shrug
that's vanilla for ya
Streamers could just as easily have a posse of defenders to support their leveling if they need it. Who knows, that's just a whole new world that wasn't a thing during vanilla. It would be chaos but probably good viewing.
Today i finally got around to do crucible just to do the quests. That was one of the worst raids ive ever been in. People had no idea what was going on. 99% of the fights could be explained as “dont stand in purple and do a tank swap every so often”. We got a few stacks of determination on both fights. I put out a dumb amount of healing and was like 6th in damage on my disc priest. Also the nzoth whispers are kinda cool from not getting rid of my nzoth village naruto headband.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
Gabe used to have a squad of rogues (Rogue Squadron) hanging around in zones where he was questing, and some fun organic pitched battles cropped up out of that.
Will actually be interesting to see how they go now that people's computers can actually handle it better.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU! - Switch Friend Code SW-5465-2458-5696 - Twitch
I was running around in the stress test server in front of stormwind where the GMs were spawning vancleef and ragnaros and stuff. There were probably no joke 1000+ people in the area and it was working better than on retail with 40 people in the same area. It's probably a substantial amount less overhead when the server doesn't have to process 10 random auras on every character, access whatever their transmog database looks like, higher def models, and no flying anything.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
The algorithm, it does not work.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
The percentage bonus is region wide, it only differs between EU and NA, not within shards or servers.
Then either their matchmaking algorithms for playercounts flat out do not work, or Alliance players on my shard all form raid groups just to go mess with Horde players while Horde players mostly play non open world content, because since I came back (~5 weeks ago) I have yet to encounter a world instance in which Horde was not severely outnumbered.
But this past week Alliance had a quest to kill 25 players in War Mode. Horde might have had something similar but I haven't logged into my Horde characters since I took my break and came back to Alliance. And anyway, I wanted to do the 25 war mode kills quest because it had a 395 item chest as a reward. So I pulled up ye olde group finder, searched for custom groups, and saw no less than about 10 groups listed for doing that quest. So yeah. Maybe it's just a thing that's happening this week. Because that was 10ish groups in the group finder at one specific time of day. I'd imagine it has been like that all week/weekend for as long as the quest has been active.
Do you play on Stormrage?
It could be that for whatever reason when you enter those zones its putting you into a phase hosted on an australian or latin america server. I can always immediately tell when that happens because for basically no other reason the lag gets way higher. Same joining instance groups.
Just another reason classic looks attractive. No playing on servers/cross server halfway across the world.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
I was just reading on the forums that apparently going into/out of war mode will reset your phasing. Maybe next time I get into a situation where Drustvar is unplayable I will try that and see if it helps. Maybe I can force my way into a more stable shard.
Yes (though I've barely logged in lately)
Horde: take a flight path out of the city you are defending, ride your mount to the raid portal. Raid portal is outside of the city you are defending. Travel time: 2-3 minutes.
Alliance: portal inside your capital city, ride your mount there. Travel time: 15 seconds.
What sense does that make?
They should have just stuck an npc in the inn that was like 'yo, do you want to join the battle?'
I guess as much sense as how much easier it is to get around Boralus than Dazar'alor.
Given how the layout of Dazar Alor for Horde players actually doing stuff in it worked out, I'm not surprised.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
Also I mean, horse are the faction that has ogrimmar, I’d think you’d be used to bad city layouts
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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I'll admit it, guys; I wasn't ready for the feels.
modern un'goro is bad
I miss linken