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PA Game Of The Year 2018 - Nominations finished. Voting thread up soon (ish)

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    Removed Dream Daddy Dadrector's Cut
    Released 2017, this is a minor content update and port to PS4. This was on the 2017 poll.

    Removed Steins;Gates for reasons below:
    8-bit ADV Steins;Gate US Release in Feb 2019
    Steins;Gate Elite US Release in Feb 2019
    Steins;Gate 0 Original US release on PSVita Nov 2016.
    Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram Original US Release 2013

    Removed Steven Universe Save the Light
    Original Release on PS4 in 2017

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    Removed:
    Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
    Capcom Beat'Em Up Bundle

  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    I'm unable to edit the Google docs because the phone app is too clunky, so could someone please add the following? All on PC

    Gorogoa
    The Red Strings Club
    Unavowed
    Dusk
    Space Tyrant
    Quarantine Circular

    Looking through the games I enjoyed last year, man 2017 was a lot of fun haha

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    edited January 18
    TeeMan wrote: »
    I'm unable to edit the Google docs because the phone app is too clunky, so could someone please add the following? All on PC

    Gorogoa
    The Red Strings Club
    Unavowed
    Dusk
    Space Tyrant
    Quarantine Circular

    Looking through the games I enjoyed last year, man 2017 was a lot of fun haha

    2018, you mean. :)

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  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited January 18
    TeeMan wrote: »
    I'm unable to edit the Google docs because the phone app is too clunky, so could someone please add the following? All on PC

    Gorogoa
    The Red Strings Club
    Unavowed
    Dusk
    Space Tyrant
    Quarantine Circular

    Looking through the games I enjoyed last year, man 2017 was a lot of fun haha

    2018, you mean. :)

    Hah, oh no I mean 2017. A huge chunk of games I enjoyed in 2018 came out in 2017. It'd be cool (but oh so much work) to have a 5 polls at the end of the year, one each for the last 5 years. Be a good gauge for people to read how well games have agreed, which ones were worth the hype what what deflated like balloons as soon as the year ended

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    edited January 18
    TeeMan wrote: »
    I'm unable to edit the Google docs because the phone app is too clunky, so could someone please add the following? All on PC

    Gorogoa

    Sorry, Gorogoa was on the list last year.

    EDIT: I've added the five other games you mentioned to the sheet! Also added some more platforms, marked a few more remasters as such (some should be deleted), and removed Hidden Folks (2017).

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    Let It Die released in 2016, and has been removed. Sorry, Uncle Death.

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    I should note that Badman is fucking awesome
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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Couple of additions.

    The Room: Old Sins (iOS, Android) - Released January 25th, 2018
    Mothergunship (PC, PS4, Xbox One) - Released July 17th, 2018


    Also, here's an idea, maybe for next year: What if we just make more than one category? It'd be more work, but we'd be able to celebrate a lot more games without having to deal with early access hesitation or whether enough work was done on a remake to qualify it as "new." Also if Early Access was a separate category, I would be fine with a title showing up multiple years, so we wouldn't have to worry about the "is it finished enough. I'm thinking like

    Best New Game
    Best Remaster/Remake
    Best DLC/Expansion/Update
    Best Early Access

  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    Was there any decision on how the episodic games should be handled? Looks like Life is Strange 2: Ep. 1 is on there. I think in the past we waited for the last game to come out and then judged the whole thing as a whole, except in cases like the Half-Life 2 Episodes.

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    I think it makes sense to wait for the whole thing. The first game was my favourite of whatever year it came out, but it would've been way lower on my list if it had only been the first episode or two.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Op updated with latest version of Google Spreadsheet. Beat Saber added too, because it's awesome and should be on there.

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    Added

    BallisticNG (PC) - Dec 14th, 2018
    the Sequence [2] (MOBILE, PC) - Jun 21, 2018
    Suzy Cube (MOBILE, PC) - Jun 19, 2018

  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    edited January 20
    I just added 286 entries sourced from Polygon, PC Gamer, RPS, GJC, IGF, GDC, Molleindustria, mcc, Liz Ryerson, this year's Humble Originals, all 50 or so Giant Bomb GOTY lists, and more. They're at the bottom of the spreadsheet because I've been at this a few hours but didn't manage to add platforms. I'll get to it tomorrow, but if anyone could help with this (and double check for duplicates or ineligible titles, it would be incredibly appreciated. Here they are:
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    10 Mississippi
    11:45 A Vivid Life
    1870: CYBERPUNK FOREVER
    1977: Radio Aut
    A Case of Distrust
    A Prison Strike
    Aeon of Sands - The Trail
    All Our Asias
    Alluvium
    almanac of girlswampwar territory
    Alphabear 2
    Alto's Odyssey
    Anamorphine
    Anchor-like need
    ASMR
    Atlas' Fate: Between Light & Darkness
    Aye Fair Lady
    Bad North
    Ballad of the Space Whale
    Bandersnatch
    Be Drunk
    Bedtime Adventure
    beemis: the curse of god
    Beyond the Sky
    Biden My Time: A Joe Biden Garfield Reading Adventure
    Binky C.L.I.X: Binky and the Blustery Day OR Binky and the Pie
    Binky CVIII: Binky gets 500 vases in the mail
    BINKY DX Pack
    BINKY IV: Return of Binky
    BINKY IX: BUBBO I
    BINKY V: Binky's UFO
    BINKY VI: The Binktastic Voyage
    BINKY VII: Robot Island
    BINKY VIII: Binky Pool Legend
    BINKY X: Binky's Planned Party
    BINKY XXI: BINKY GOES INTO THE HAUNTED CASTLE TO SEARCH FOR THEIR BOYFRIEND RUFF
    Bonewarper
    Bound Together
    Breaker
    Broken Reality
    Bucolic BINKY and the Clone Catastrophe
    Budget Cuts
    Can You Come In?
    Captain Lee
    Cashbags
    Catmaze
    Caught Between Dimensions
    Charge Cycles
    Chnakess
    Coffee Talk
    ComPETition
    Copy Kitty
    Cosmic Top Secret
    Cragne Manor
    Crossgrams
    CURSEDOM
    Cut & Run
    Cyberpet Graveyard
    Cytus II
    Daily Quests
    Dandara
    Dead Wife Game
    Dinosaur Party
    Distance
    Do not Feed the Monkeys
    Does That Answer Your Question?
    Dogness
    Don't Trip
    Donkey Kong's Revenge
    Drawkanoid
    Duck Souls
    Earthworms
    ELECTRIC FILE MONITOR
    Electronauts
    Else Walker
    En Garde!
    Equilinox
    ESC
    Eternal Home Floristry
    Ethereal
    EXAPUNKS
    Exhaustlands
    EXTREME MEATPUNKS FOREVER
    Factory Hiro
    Finder's Cycle #1
    First Winter
    Flamingo Quest
    Fluffy Koala and the Delicious Cake Cafe
    Fluffy Tile World
    Football Game
    Forests are for Trees
    Forgotton Anne
    Fortune-499
    Full Metal Furies
    Furistas Cat Cafe
    GENDERWRECKED
    Giant's Chalice
    Giraffe Town
    Girls' Frontline
    Golem
    Grace Bruxner Presents: The Haunted Island, a Frog Detective Game
    Grass Stains
    HANA
    Haunted Cities Vol. 3
    Heart Chain Kitty
    HEARTBEAT
    Hero
    Hitchhiker
    House Flipper
    IIslands of War
    In Death
    Indecision.
    INFERNIUM
    investigate
    IQ: Intelligent Qhess
    Islands (by Rosden Shadow)
    It is as if you were making love
    It's Paper Guy!
    Jazztronauts
    JIGGLY ZONE
    Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass
    Jurassic World Alive
    Just Shapes & Beats
    Kaiju Super Datetech
    Kenshi
    Kleu’s music
    Knight Club
    L: An Interactive Mystery
    La-Mulana 2
    Lamplight City
    Last Game Of The Year 2018
    League of Piss
    Legendary Gary
    Li went to flounda's house and this is what he told me
    Lisssn
    llama villa
    LONG LIVE THE AXE
    Lucah: Born of a Dream
    Ludus Antioch
    Lyric Sonata
    Marbloid
    Marie's Room
    Megaquarium
    Mellowdy
    Memory
    Merry Cake-flavoured Chisrmas
    Meteor-Strike!
    Meteorfall
    Mike Dies
    Mirror Drop
    Monster Breeder
    Monster Girl Maker
    Monster Prom
    Mr. Gun
    Mr. Petes is lost!
    Mr. Petes is the glue that holds this building together.
    MUSCLE WORLD
    My Child Lebensborn
    NAIRI: Tower of Shirin
    Nepenthe
    New Ice York
    novena
    NSFWare
    Nusty Flamingo Tango
    Odd One
    Of Mice and Sand -REVISED-
    Ollie & Bollie's Outdoor Estate
    one night, hot springs
    opus
    OVERWHELM
    Overwrite
    Paper & Ink Dungeon
    Paper Planet Pop
    Paratopic
    Parsnip
    Patient Rogue
    Pig Eat Ball
    Pipe Push Paradise
    Planet Grunch
    Pocket-Run Pool
    POD
    POLYBOT-7
    Pool Panic
    Quantic Cat
    Railroad Tracks
    Randy's Soccer Quest
    Reigns: Game of Thrones
    Resurgent
    Reverie
    Rising Dusk
    Roulette Knight
    Rude Bear Resolution
    Runnink out of Space
    Russian Subway Dogs
    Rxcovery
    Rym 9000
    SchoolQuest Collection
    Secret of the Wumpus
    Seers Isle
    September 1999
    Septillion
    SHADOWS
    Shape of the World
    Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation Dx2
    Shrug Island - The Meeting
    Silverybield Foss
    Siren Head
    Skuiggle
    Sky Noon
    Smithee
    Snow Game
    Snowspirit
    Sonic Suggests
    Speed Dating for Ghosts
    Spellthief
    Spy Quest 1 - Mission: SPECTRUM
    Stay Home
    STONE
    Stumblehill
    Subserial Network
    supertype
    Sven
    Taco Tom 2
    Tango: The Adventure Game
    TASball
    Temple of the Wumpus
    Tendar
    Tesla vs Lovecraft
    The Alchemist Stash
    The Alpha Device
    The Attic’s a Dungeon ?!
    The Bone Maze
    The Cold Remains of Warmer Days
    The Council
    The Crown of Leaves
    The Doll Shop
    the earth is a better person than me
    The Empty City
    THE ENIGMA MACHINE
    The Fall Part 2: Unbound
    The friends of Ringo Ishikawa
    The Great Ghoul Duel (Google Doodle)
    The Haunted Island, a Frog Detective Game
    The Hex
    The House of the Living
    The Librarian
    The Loss Levels
    The Purpose of Water
    The Royal
    The Silence Under Your Bed
    The Spectrum Retreat
    The Testimony of Trixie Glimmer Smith
    The world had been sad since Tuesday
    This Cat That Comes In Through Our Window
    Totally Accurate Battlegrounds
    Trash Bin Monster
    Twinfold
    Umfend
    Un Pueblo De Nada
    Unearth
    Unfamiliar
    Unforeseen Incidents
    Us Lovely Corpses
    vApe Escape
    Vegetable Grower 2
    Visual Out
    Warehouse Panic
    Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus
    Watch Me Jump
    We Should Talk
    Whale's Waldo
    Where the Water Tastes Like Wine
    wHERE'StIGA
    Whisper
    WiFi Robots
    Winter, 2001: Someone tell Luigi I love him
    Woten
    Wumpus Sea Courier Report
    Yoshi’s Island Gaiden: Halloween Eternal
    You Are Jeff Bezos
    you feel a draft.
    YOU LEFT ME.
    Zarvot
    ZeroRanger
    ZONES
    
    I included Jazztronauts despite it being a mod of Garry's Mod because of the number of lists I saw it on.

    I also encountered the following early access titles which I have not added to the spreadsheet. Please weigh in on whether any of these should be included before the looming deadline:
    Darwin Project
    Hades
    Hunt: Showdown
    Objects in Space
    Raft
    Slay the Spire
    SpyParty
    The Light Keeps Us Safe
    The Void Rains Upon Her Heart
    They Are Billions
    

    I removed the following titles for being straight ports/rereleases or incomplete episodic projects. Please let me know if I was mistaken with any of these:
    Path of Exile
    Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux
    The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 1: Done Running
    The Walking Dead: The Final Season – Episode 2: Suffer the Children
    Yakuza 0
    Yakuza 3
    

    Lastly, I changed "Fortnite: Battle Royale" to be simply "Fortnite" and "Deltarune" to be "Deltarune: Chapter 1". If you disagree… you know the deal.

    EDIT: Having second thoughts about including Hero after learning it's an installation based VR experience, though there's probably some overlap between voters and Tribeca Film Festival 2018 attendees, right?

    sergiocornaga on
    Pooch
  • OrivonOrivon Registered User regular
    Added:
    Azur Lane
    Bendy in Nightmare Run
    Book of Demons
    Crossing Souls
    Deep Sky Derelicts
    Dust and Salt
    Graveyard Keeper
    I'm Not a Monster
    Lethal League Blaze
    My Memory of Us
    Ninjin: Clash of Carrots
    Not Tonight
    PixelJunk Monsters 2
    Prime Mover
    Scythe: Digital Edition
    Steel Rats
    Synthetik: Legion Rising
    Terraforming Mars
    The Shapeshifting Detective
    Transference
    Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War
    Wartile
    Zwei: The Arges Adventure

    Removed:
    God Eater 3
    Judge Eyes
    Persona Q2

    All of these are planned to release in the US in 2019.

    The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
    The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II: Kai

    Was on 2016's list.

    sergiocornaga
  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Added Marvel Powers United (PCVR)

    I also encountered the following early access titles which I have not added to the spreadsheet. Please weigh in on whether any of these should be included before the looming deadline:
    Darwin Project
    Hades
    Hunt: Showdown
    Objects in Space
    Raft
    Slay the Spire
    SpyParty
    The Light Keeps Us Safe
    The Void Rains Upon Her Heart
    They Are Billions
    

    I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.

    furlionsergiocornaga
  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    I just added 286 entries sourced from Polygon, PC Gamer, RPS, GJC, IGF, GDC, Molleindustria, mcc, Liz Ryerson, this year's Humble Originals, all 50 or so Giant Bomb GOTY lists, and more. They're at the bottom of the spreadsheet because I've been at this a few hours but didn't manage to add platforms. I'll get to it tomorrow, but if anyone could help with this (and double check for duplicates or ineligible titles, it would be incredibly appreciated.

    My favorite part of these lists is going down and seeing these obscure, oddly titled indie-games.

    And I think we can cut these, unless I'm mistaken

    Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse NS Y
    Cabela's: The Hunt - Championship Edition NS Y
    Firefighters: The Simulation NS
    Firefighters: Airport Fire Department NS
    Layton's Mystery Journey DX NS

    sergiocornaga
  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    I'll aim to go through tonight and do the final list. Thanks to everyone for putting in the effort!

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    edited January 21
    Last minute change:
    Removed:
    Love is Strange 2: Episode 1
    Runbow
    God Wars: The Complete Legend
    Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
    Hunting Simulator
    Moto Racer 4
    The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
    Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology
    Sky Force Reloaded
    Scribblenauts Mega Pack

    Spyro Reignited Trilogy is still on there, should that come down based on the other remakes that we've cut?

    Also: did Dragon Quest Builders 2 ever come out in the US? I can't seem to find anywhere that sells it.

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    I'm indifferent as long as we're consistent. If we're not counting Crash Remastered, we shouldn't count Spyro.

    Albeit both are great graphical refreshes.

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    Lawndart wrote: »
    I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.
    OK. I'm down with Fortnite being our only major exception to the EA rule (which, looking at the spreadsheet, it now is).
    Mr_Grinch wrote: »
    I'll aim to go through tonight and do the final list. Thanks to everyone for putting in the effort!
    Awesome! I've just gone through and added a few more platforms (as well as deleting some duplicates and adding a couple of things I missed) but I'm afraid I won't be able to finish 'em up until I get home from work about 10 hours from now… I stayed up all night adding the initial entries and then had to catch up on sleep. :(
    I'm indifferent as long as we're consistent. If we're not counting Crash Remastered, we shouldn't count Spyro.
    N. Sane Trilogy was 2017, and we left it off the list… but perhaps this is our chance to turn over a new leaf?

  • LitanyLitany Registered User regular
    Lawndart wrote: »

    I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.

    What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Litany wrote: »
    Lawndart wrote: »

    I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.

    What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.

    Well, the whole idea is that each game only gets one shot, so if it was on the list for a previous year, it's ineligible for this year.

    That's why I'm against putting EA titles on here, as being in early access is a tactic admission that the game is not done and judging a game that is not done is super unfair. You either cut it slack that you don't for full releases, or you judge it harshly for being incomplete, even though it's not the intention of the creators to have to judged in that matter, yet.

  • LitanyLitany Registered User regular
    Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Litany wrote: »
    Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.

    I would sooner allow major expansions such as No Mans Sky Next, WoW expansions, and substantial DLC packs (like Blood and Wine, The Division's Survival update, Battlefield and COD expansions, etc.) on the list than allow remasters and early access games, to be honest.

    I'm not sold on the idea that just removing microtransactions is enough to count as a new game, as plenty of games have done so, often for economic or legal reasons, without really altering the game.

    But it's certainly easier to draw a line at only full games.

  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    Litany wrote: »
    Lawndart wrote: »

    I'm still in favor of the simplicity of not letting any early access titles on the list, rather than the subjectively letting some on or running the risk of a game that is actually worth playing after 1-2 years of EA development being excluded because back when it was a glorified EA tech demo three people voted for it.

    What about "Live Service" games that alter significant portions of the game? Does No Man's Sky get a second shot? Or something like Middle Earth Shadow of War, removing micro transactions and the grind related to them fixing a significant strike against the game? In a constantly connected and evolving marketplace, a boxed product is no longer the end of it's development. Which is pretty much what the "Early Access" blanket is.

    Well, the whole idea is that each game only gets one shot, so if it was on the list for a previous year, it's ineligible for this year.

    That's why I'm against putting EA titles on here, as being in early access is a tactic admission that the game is not done and judging a game that is not done is super unfair. You either cut it slack that you don't for full releases, or you judge it harshly for being incomplete, even though it's not the intention of the creators to have to judged in that matter, yet.

    Yeah, this kind of makes sense to me-. Leave them off until the developer says they're "done" and judge what's there then- if it's No Man Sky or Fallout 76, then you judge it based on what's there and hopefully they build it out into something resembling a complete game.

    It will get props by fans of the game throughout the next year if they expand on it in a smart way, but for the purpose of making a list that will be set in stone over the voting is done, if the creators says it's 1.0 or done or whatever then you consider it against other games that are done at that time.

  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Speaking of my urge to purge those darn remasters and Switch ports, I yanked the following games that were listed as such:
    • Assault Gunners HD Edition PC, PS4
    • ATV Drift & Tricks NS
    • Bass Pro Shops: The Strike – Championship Edition NS
    • Battle Chasers: Nightwar NS
    • Battlezone: Gold Edition PC, PS4, XBO
    • Big Buck Hunter Arcade NS
    • Cosmic Star Heroine NS
    • Harvest Moon: Light of Hope Special Edition NS, PS4
    • Layers of Fear: Legacy NS
    • Legend of Kay Anniversary NS
    • Muv-Luv PSVita
    • Muv-Luv Alternative PSVita
    • Omensight: The Definitive Edition NS
    • Project Highrise: Architect's Edition NS
    • Red Faction Guerrilla: Re-Mars-tered Edition PC, PS4, XBO
    • Regalia: Of Men and Monarchs - Royal Edition NS, PS4, XBO
    • Spintires: Mudrunner – American Wilds Edition NS
    • Spyro Reignited Trilogy PS4, XBO
    • Sudden Strike 4: European Battlefields Edition XBO
    • Sunless Sea: Zubmariner Edition PS4
    • Wasteland 2: Director's Cut NS
    • World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth PC

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Litany wrote: »
    Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.

    Nah, people don't typically go into a live service game expecting a lack of content. The live service stuff is supposed to be in addition to a full, complete game. Otherwise games like No Man's Sky, Sea of Thieves or Fallout 76 wouldn't have gotten trashed when they first came out.

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  • LitanyLitany Registered User regular
    Litany wrote: »
    Live Service games are sold on the idea that the game isn't "done", either. That's where the issue is. If Game A is sold on the pretense that it's not finished and will receive updates and content, and Game B does the same and calls it "Early Access"... where's the line? I agree in principle, but the line is too blurred. Games are sold incomplete at both ends of the spectrum, it's just as unfair the other way.

    Nah, people don't typically go into a live service game expecting a lack of content. The live service stuff is supposed to be in addition to a full, complete game. Otherwise games like No Man's Sky, Sea of Thieves or Fallout 76 wouldn't have gotten trashed when they first came out.

    And I have to completely disagree. They're reviewed when money is expected to exchanged hands, as every other product is. What it might become is what "Live Service" games are absolutely a bullet point to be sold on. Almost every such title has a poor end game that is expected to be "fixed", but they are reviewed in the state they are. That is the product you've purchased, and it may become better or it may never be finished.

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  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    edited January 22
    I'm wrapping up platforms and deleting a few more ports now. One last minute thing I noticed: both Nintendo Labo Robot Kit & Nintendo Labo Variety Kit are listed. Are these games? Are they sufficiently distinct, or would a single entry for Nintendo Labo be better?

    EDIT: I've added all the platforms. I've deleted some things. I made Nintendo Labo a single entry, but feel free to revert this change.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    I'm wrapping up platforms and deleting a few more ports now. One last minute thing I noticed: both Nintendo Labo Robot Kit & Nintendo Labo Variety Kit are listed. Are these games? Are they sufficiently distinct, or would a single entry for Nintendo Labo be better?

    EDIT: I've added all the platforms. I've deleted some things. I made Nintendo Labo a single entry, but feel free to revert this change.

    I didn't play them, but I thought the two Labo looked different enough- one had that robot game and the other one was the smaller games/toys right? Or was there one big Labo pack that had everything?

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    I'm going to remove Dragon Quest Builders 2 since it looks like it didn't actually release in the US this year.

  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    edited January 22
    Pooch wrote: »
    I didn't play them, but I thought the two Labo looked different enough- one had that robot game and the other one was the smaller games/toys right?
    Thanks, it sounds like my change should be reverted! I also didn't actually play them.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    Pooch wrote: »
    I didn't play them, but I thought the two Labo looked different enough- one had that robot game and the other one was the smaller games/toys right?
    Thanks, it sounds like my change should be reverted! I also didn't actually play them.

    Yeah, it looks like the actual software is different in addition to the games/box pieces.

    In fact it looks like there was a third kit released at some point? Dunno how popular these were but I think they are different enough that people playing them will prefer one over the other.

  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Sorry guys, haven't had chance to pass on the final list yet. Another thing on the to do list tomorrow :smile:

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    Mr_Grinch wrote: »
    Sorry guys, haven't had chance to pass on the final list yet. Another thing on the to do list tomorrow :smile:

    Cool- in that case, one last edit to the list from me: these were on last year's it looks like:

    Dark Rose Valkyrie
    Divinity: Original Sin II
    Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana

  • sergiocornagasergiocornaga Registered User regular
    Using this extra time, I went ahead and added a couple of the worst-reviewed games of 2018 (via Metacritic) that were absent from the list. Worthwhile!

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    I also removed World of Final Fantasy Maxima, as it was an enhanced edition.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    Time is called! List going over to @Infidel shortly.

    Thanks for all the effort on this folks, I'll be honest, time is extremely limited for me nowadays (turns out a very active 5 year old daughter keeps you pretty busy). If anyone wants to take up the mantle for doing the organizing next year it'd be appreciated - you guys in this thread have done all the work anyway :smile:

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  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Been busy but I'm gonna try to look at getting it sorted later tonight or maybe tomorrow!

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  • Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    edited January 27
    How do I always manage to not notice these threads until after the nomination part is over? I swear, every year.

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