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Whatever happened to the [TV] Thread?

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited February 11
    Tube wrote: »
    I think Kevin Smith has passed his prime as a writer

    that happened in the 90s, though

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    I don't think that everything else about defenders was very good

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  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts Great Power Great CostumesRegistered User regular
    edited February 11
    Luke Cage bursting into a fight scene to RTJ was good

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    Tube wrote: »
    I think Kevin Smith has passed his prime as a writer

    that happened in the 90s, though

    Tusk was his best movie.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    I will at least give Howard the Duck a chance

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    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
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  • CristovalCristoval Registered User regular
    Red State was real good, but it'll mostly be nice to see him write scripts not catered directly towards his Smodcast fanbase,of which I am one but kinda checked out of after TUSK. Clerks II was a fine movie and I'm sad he won't be able to film the 3rd since Randall noped out after Weinstien Company fuckery (but not that fuckery).

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    If I was forced to name an intellectual property to put Kevin Smith in charge of it would definitely be Howard the Duck, George Lucas' Howard the Duck specifically

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    The best part about this is, given how abysmal The Defenders was, the bar for this one is SUPER low.

    Well its animated so its already gonna look better.

    Also I feel like the team up being called the Offenders is a pretty clear jab.

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    Luke Cage bursting into a fight scene to RTJ was good

    I don't know, it's a good idea but I think they beefed it. The music is too low, and Luke doesn't really do anything cool right afterwards. The whole "you?" "me" thing is cute but brings down the moment. The editing and direction are both kind of sloppy, that moment should be a huge "oh shit" and it's kind of a wet fart.

    Imagine if instead of a played out "struggle with a lot of guys" move, it were say, two guys holding him Danny down and one about to shoot him (with the tranq or whatever, that scene was dumb in a bunch of ways). He's not right next to a door. There's a whole "oh shit, Danny's fucked" moment, then the intro to the song starts and the viewer is all "that's weird, I wonder wh-" and then Luke smashes through the wall and obliterates the guy that was about to shoot Danny in slow motion, while the music is as overpowering and fuck yeah as RTJ deserves to be.

    I don't know, maybe my version is stupid too (How I Would Fix This usually is), but I feel like they took the cue of "Luke Cage beats people up to Run The Jewels" and did the most anodyne possible version of it. There's also numerous standard, stupid MCU tv show things in it like "why are they all using collapsible batons instead of guns" "why have the tranq gun guys be in the other room instead of doing the ambush" "why is there a submachine guy now, I thought they wanted to take him alive".

    At least Danny gets to beat up 15 guys I suppose. Makes a change from getting whooped by a doughy security guard.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    I wonder what role Kevin Smith's daughter will play

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    I wonder what role Kevin Smith's daughter will play

    Man I aint gonna fault a dude for letting his daughter have a gig in his shitty canada jokes horror movie trilogy.

    She'll probably be Beverly though

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    There are some other interesting names attached to those Marvels projects, too.

    M.O.D.O.K is being written and produced by Jordan Blum (Community, American Dad) and Patton Oswalt.

    Tigra & Dazzler is being written and produced by Erica Rivinoja (writer for Girl's Trip and Last Man on Earth) and Chelsea Handler.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Girl's Trip and Last Man on Earth were both quite good, so that's a bit promising at least.

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    chelsea handler is the big red flag for me

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    American Dad is the best of the Seth Macfarlane cartoons. I'd say shows, but I really enjoyed Cosmos and I can't hate the Orville because it's pretty good, and also dripping with "do you remember, sitting next to your dad, watching The Next Generation, and he'd tell you the names of all the aliens and"

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    The Orville sounds pretty good and appeals to me but Star Trek seems like it's very important and personally meaningful for Seth McFarlane and The Orville is his way to express that and I would hate to share something personal with Seth McFarlane so I will not view it

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    chelsea handler is the big red flag for me

    I agree

    But I also think it's kinda weird she's attached to an animated Marvel movie

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    boo

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    Maybe I'd like The Orville but McFarlane is beyond the event horizon in terms of being a piece of shit and I won't watch any of his stuff any more

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  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts Great Power Great CostumesRegistered User regular
    What's the deal with Chelsea Handler? I'm not having any luck googling

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    her brand of humor is extremely not my thing

    she's who you get because joan rivers is dead and kathy griffin is busy

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  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    It’s too bad the Orville has that one very very bad episode and also that the stuff with Alara leaving the show after they apparently started dating and broke up makes me think Macfarlane is incredibly creepy.

    Pieces of a good show are there but they’re put together by a scumbag.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    It’s too bad the Orville has that one very very bad episode and also that the stuff with Alara leaving the show after they apparently started dating and broke up makes me think Macfarlane is incredibly creepy.

    Pieces of a good show are there but they’re put together by a scumbag.

    Apparently she left to go work on something else and her and Seth's break up was pretty mutual. From interviews with her.

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    It’s too bad the Orville has that one very very bad episode and also that the stuff with Alara leaving the show after they apparently started dating and broke up makes me think Macfarlane is incredibly creepy.

    Pieces of a good show are there but they’re put together by a scumbag.

    Goddamnit is that what happened with that? I just watched that episode yesterday and I was wondering why the hell they had her leave so soon.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    yeah Chelsea Handler isn't a piece of shit, that I'm aware, she just isn't funny

    I read one of her books, years ago, and it was just...edgy in a really rehearsed way, the kind of humor that only works when transgression for its own sake is still funny to you

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    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
  • THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY im alucard Registered User regular
    the story arc of Defenders is one of the most bafflingly stupid things I've ever seen in my entire life
    we've gotta stop these ninjas from sucking the juice out of this LOAD-BEARING DRAGON SKELETON under New York City

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Oh... I was confusing Chelsea Cain and Chelsea Handler. ...And Dazzler and Mockingbird.

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Runaways Season 2 stuff
    Narratively speaking, I'm not sure that the second season was as strong as the first. The first has a very clear defined arc - it is about them learning to run away, which it acknowledged as a much more complicated and difficult thing than the comics had suggested it to be. When we finished the penultimate episode of the second, my roommate turned to me and said, "I guess we're just not going to wrap up any of these plotlines, are we?"

    And while that last episode covered a lot of ground, it left even more up in the air. A lot of it is very interesting - we have our first actually dead parent, we have the implication of a traitor that we've seen very little other indication of, and we have everyone split up way more than they have been before, even if many of them are still ideologically aligned and only separated by distance. That also feels like a bit too much to leave as a cliffhanger to me - it reminds me a bit of Smallville, which is something I would prefer to never say about a show that I like.

    But overall I'm fine with that because I really enjoy the show for all of the work that it does exploring interpersonal relationships, and all of the superhero stuff really just serves as a cover to give those relationships heightened stakes. I talked about this stuff somewhere in the middle of the season as well, but I think my favorite parts of the show have been about showing how much more complicated the idea of running away from home and abandoning your parents is.

    I was also delighted by two small easter eggs - the Gibborim re-education center has a statue of one of the comics version of the Gibborim, and in the last episode Chase is sketching out plans for the Leapfrog on his iPad.

    Non-spoiler version - I love this show and what it has to say about superhero media.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    the story arc of Defenders is one of the most bafflingly stupid things I've ever seen in my entire life
    we've gotta stop these ninjas from sucking the juice out of this LOAD-BEARING DRAGON SKELETON under New York City
    I'm angry about it because the idea of load bearing dragon skeletons underneath the major cities of the world is really good

    You just need to make them not physically load bearing, but rather they create some sort magical/psychic/chi field that allows for cities to prosper and flourish above them, and not descend into a tightly packed anarchy

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited February 11
    Who was the film critic that said the Incredibles 2 made his dick shoot popcorn or whatever

    Wrong thread but not that wrong

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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Straightzi wrote: »
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    the story arc of Defenders is one of the most bafflingly stupid things I've ever seen in my entire life
    we've gotta stop these ninjas from sucking the juice out of this LOAD-BEARING DRAGON SKELETON under New York City
    I'm angry about it because the idea of load bearing dragon skeletons underneath the major cities of the world is really good

    You just need to make them not physically load bearing, but rather they create some sort magical/psychic/chi field that allows for cities to prosper and flourish above them, and not descend into a tightly packed anarchy

    It would be a great concept for a plot in a show that had any concept of fun.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    chelsea handler is the big red flag for me

    I agree

    But I also think it's kinda weird she's attached to an animated Marvel movie

    Its a series I think. Offenders is the movie.

    I guess Chelsea Handler would have some unique spin on Dazzler at the very least

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  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    It’s too bad the Orville has that one very very bad episode and also that the stuff with Alara leaving the show after they apparently started dating and broke up makes me think Macfarlane is incredibly creepy.

    Pieces of a good show are there but they’re put together by a scumbag.

    Apparently she left to go work on something else and her and Seth's break up was pretty mutual. From interviews with her.

    Well that’s a slight relief but it doesn’t stop it from looking super fucked up

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator mod
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I finished Season 2 of Runaways last night who wants to talk about it



    "Rorshach Kringle"

    I... haven't finished it yet

  • THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY im alucard Registered User regular
    man, the amount of squandered potential in the Marvel Netflix shows just threatens to overwhelm when you really look at it

    they gave a whole show to the guy who did the end of Dexter

    they gave him TWO whole shows, actually--I almost forgot about Inhumans

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    the story arc of Defenders is one of the most bafflingly stupid things I've ever seen in my entire life
    we've gotta stop these ninjas from sucking the juice out of this LOAD-BEARING DRAGON SKELETON under New York City
    I'm angry about it because the idea of load bearing dragon skeletons underneath the major cities of the world is really good

    You just need to make them not physically load bearing, but rather they create some sort magical/psychic/chi field that allows for cities to prosper and flourish above them, and not descend into a tightly packed anarchy

    It would be a great concept for a plot in a show that had any concept of fun.
    load-bearing dragon skeleton is an inherently and powerfully hilarious phrase and I'm shocked that anyone would try to make something like what they did with that idea

    Tube wrote: »
    I was legit hoping that Shorty was somehow mistaken and the world wasn't that fucked
  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I finished Season 2 of Runaways last night who wants to talk about it

    I... haven't finished it yet

    Well do it already

    (it took me forever too so I can't be too angry about it, I just know there's only like three other people who watch the show and that bums me out)

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The phrase load bearing skeleton is both hilarious and also something that they played 100% straight without irony in the defenders.

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    Lin Manuel Miranda is guesting on B99 this week
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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread Registered User regular
    I don't have too much to say about Runaways other than personal preferences. I finished S2 over a month ago though
    My main issue, as is my main issue with every Marvel TV show, is the pacing. They don't seem to understand TV pacing, so every shot is drawn out way too long. I mean, literally every action scene used slow-mo in a very Zack Snyder style, but in hilariously bad ways? Like, when AWOL gets his rope clipped, it starts with him falling in real speed and then slows down for him to crash on a desk. It felt like it was supposed to be dynamic but it came off as just cheap (that's just one example I can remember, but really every action scene had a slow-mo shot that they intended to feel more important than it did)

    Aside from maybe Janet, non of the parents are likeable at all. That could be fine, but they also kept trying to make you care about them as if they had any good qualities. They wanted you to feel for X parent when spouse Y was being shitty to them, but then the next episode parent X would be a complete shit to spouse Y, back and forth, all season

    It picked back up at the end for me, and I'm hoping it doesn't get canceled, but I also know I'll probably have the same issues with the next season.

    Also, damn does Marvel TV love killing people of color

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