As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/
We're funding a new Acquisitions Incorporated series on Kickstarter right now! Check it out at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pennyarcade/acquisitions-incorporated-the-series-2

[WARFRAME] Mesa Prime access ending, Oberon Prime vaulted, Equinox Prime arrives - 4/2

1141517192099

Posts

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    So what is the best/quickest way to get lots of void traces for making radiant relics? I got a lot of relics I want to crack, but am running low on void traces.

    basically just cracking open other relics that you dont care about, and occassionally from alerts, though those are going away soon i guess. I dont think there is a really fast way of getting any.

    Note that the relics that you get from the event aren't ones that you don't care about. Don't be one of those many, many people.

    I mean unless you had everything from them I guess?

    But the number of MR<10 people I see cracking those is... yeah

    Can you elaborate on this? Why do I need to wait to MR 10 to open them?

    I get the impression that they contain vaulted things that are hard to get now. So presumably you want to save up and spend all your void traces maxing them out to be able to increase the chances of getting the rare stuff.

    But it's not like their contents take up inventory space. I can get a nikana prime hilt and a saryn prime blueprint and just hold onto them forever. Why does it matter if I'm lower rank or newer to the game?

    Looking at them...I can't even complete any of the items from inside them. But as long as I don't just junk or sell what's in them I don't get the big deal.

    You don't need to be MR 10 to open them.

    But if you're under 10 MR the chances of you already having everything in them and thus not needing any of the rare blueprints and just cracking them for void traces is a little unlikely

  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    and Chroma, my dude, what the fuck.
    Isn't Chroma pretty good for Eidolons? Big numbers are their forte.

  • hushhush Registered User regular
    chroma is fantastic for eidolons, yes

    This is the future. This is what we built. This is what we wanted. It must have been. Because we all had the fucking choice, didn't we? It is only our money that allows commercial culture to flower. If we didn't want to live like this, we could have changed it at any time, by not fucking paying for it.

    So let's celebrate by all going out and buying the same burger. -transmet
    Nips
  • SaldonasSaldonas See you space cowboy...Registered User regular
    I believe certain builds get up to about 957% increased damage for Chroma. It's definitely one of the meta frames for eidolons.

    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/carthuun
    Switch: SW-1493-0062-4053
    Nips
  • Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    The other day on a PUG Tridolon, I was Trinity, and we had a Harrow.

    Me: Woah. Why are there no Magnetic procs?

    Harrow: ah, yeah, that's my #4

    Me: ???????????????????????

    A few days later, I level Harrow. I realize:

    1. Indeedydo, his #4's initial phase makes you immune to... everything. Procs, damage, whatever.
    2. After the initial phase is over, that gets converted into +crit chance.

    Today, I carried a clearly n00b Tridolon PUG group with Harrow and a 111 amp. It was my second Tridolon with Harrow.

    Group: Chroma (sure), Trinity (sure), Inaros (... okay, uh... what). Inaros hadn't done War Within. Chroma and Trinity were still packing Motes. I... am OK with a Trinity packing a Mote, but Inaros clearly shouldn't have been here at all, and Chroma, my dude, what the fuck.

    Meanwhile, my UI: "30k Damage Prevented => 50% Crit Chance + 200% on Headshot"

    It was, nonetheless, agonizing, and we got out with only 10 minutes to spare... b u t, with that team? Yeah. Now I know what it's like to carry in Warframe.

    (It's frustrating, time consuming, and boring, mostly >>; )

    PS: Do you know what's beautiful? Red crit shots from Vectis Prime on last phase Eidolon. On every shot.

    You have been shown the righteousness of playing Harrow.

    Go and sin no more, my child.

    Nips
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    This morning before work I randomly did two alerts. Low level stuff, I think one was on earth.

    Both times I was attacked by the stalker, first mission I got Despair and second I got Dread (though I already have Dread).

    First I was like "oh cool" and then I googled Despair and found forum threads of people saying they've been trying for two years to get Despair with no drops and then I was like "OH COOL."

    Switch Friend Code: SW - 5443 - 2358 - 9118 || 3DS Friend Code: 0989 - 1731 - 9504 || NNID: unclesporky
    furlionCurly_Bracedipuc4lifeNipsIanatorPapaganderOlivawBobble
  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    This morning before work I randomly did two alerts. Low level stuff, I think one was on earth.

    Both times I was attacked by the stalker, first mission I got Despair and second I got Dread (though I already have Dread).

    First I was like "oh cool" and then I googled Despair and found forum threads of people saying they've been trying for two years to get Despair with no drops and then I was like "OH COOL."

    I've been playing for close to six years and still haven't gotten Hate to drop. I've had War, Dread, and Despair drop multiple times each, but no Hate.

    JtgVX0H.png
  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    This morning before work I randomly did two alerts. Low level stuff, I think one was on earth.

    Both times I was attacked by the stalker, first mission I got Despair and second I got Dread (though I already have Dread).

    First I was like "oh cool" and then I googled Despair and found forum threads of people saying they've been trying for two years to get Despair with no drops and then I was like "OH COOL."

    I've been playing for close to six years and still haven't gotten Hate to drop. I've had War, Dread, and Despair drop multiple times each, but no Hate.

    I've had Hate and Despair drop a couple times each.

    It's always great when it happens in a group, because someone inevitably goes "OH MY GOD, AFTER SO MANY YEARS IT'S FINALLY MINE."

    On the other hand, I suspect that the Brakk is a myth. Despite dozens of G3 kills I still only have the receiver.

    steam_sig.png
    Darmakmanwiththemachinegun
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Unfortunately Despair was with one other guy who was probably like MR2 and had no idea what he was doing and died several times and couldn't find his way to the exit so I had to wait out the timer.

    Switch Friend Code: SW - 5443 - 2358 - 9118 || 3DS Friend Code: 0989 - 1731 - 9504 || NNID: unclesporky
  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    First time Despair dropped some troll purposely failed the mission. :|

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    This morning before work I randomly did two alerts. Low level stuff, I think one was on earth.

    Both times I was attacked by the stalker, first mission I got Despair and second I got Dread (though I already have Dread).

    First I was like "oh cool" and then I googled Despair and found forum threads of people saying they've been trying for two years to get Despair with no drops and then I was like "OH COOL."

    Despair doesn't exist. This post is a lie.

    “I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
    MrGrimoire
  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    This morning before work I randomly did two alerts. Low level stuff, I think one was on earth.

    Both times I was attacked by the stalker, first mission I got Despair and second I got Dread (though I already have Dread).

    First I was like "oh cool" and then I googled Despair and found forum threads of people saying they've been trying for two years to get Despair with no drops and then I was like "OH COOL."

    Despair doesn't exist. This post is a lie.

    Oh it exists alright, it's that feeling you get when you dedicate a large chunk of your time to acquire the drop.

    Truly it is the most meta thing in all of gaming.

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
    Commander Zoom
  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    I've got Dread, Despair, and Hate. Waiting on a Broken War bp so I can have both broken and regular versions. Oh and Scimitar engines ofc.

    Steam - BNet: Yilias #1224 - Riot: Yilias #moc
  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    and Chroma, my dude, what the fuck.
    Isn't Chroma pretty good for Eidolons? Big numbers are their forte.

    My comment was more because that Chroma wasn't really contributing damage, which usually means that the person in question is using a Mote amp, or is using Transcendance instead of Transference.

    Like as a general PSA... having literally any Amp that isn't the Mote should be a requirement for Tridolon. Do Teralyst until you have the resources for it, please. I don't care if you don't have any of your Focus Passives unlocked, I don't care if you aren't even in an "optimal" Warframe, please have a 111 Amp at a minimum. Like, with the above example, I could have been OK with the Inaros (if a bit confused; he doesn't really have stuff that's helpful for Eidolons in general), but his Operator was using a Mote amp, so he was next to useless.

    See You Space Cowboy: a ttrpg about sad space bounty hunters
    https://podcast.tidalwavegames.com/
  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I just bought the What Stalker? bundle years and years ago

    got all them rare weapons sitting nice and snug

    wY6K6Jb.gif
  • DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    I'm getting to the bottom of the barrel to try to scrape up MR xp, so I hit the derelict to farm some mutagen samples since I still need 35 mutagen masses to complete all the weapons from the dojo. Not as painful as it could be, but they are far and away harder to get than fieldron or detonite stuffs, especially since you can only get 1 or 2 from invasions instead of 3.

    The new frames and weapons they've previewed for 2019 will be a big help...they're coming soon, right?

    steam_sig.png
  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I just bought the What Stalker? bundle years and years ago

    got all them rare weapons sitting nice and snug

    haha... they actually put that pack on sale when they brought the Stalker groupies back last month and I was tempted to buy it.


    Daimar, have you already gone through the Zaws and stuff?

    tastydonuts on
    “I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Foefaller wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    This morning before work I randomly did two alerts. Low level stuff, I think one was on earth.

    Both times I was attacked by the stalker, first mission I got Despair and second I got Dread (though I already have Dread).

    First I was like "oh cool" and then I googled Despair and found forum threads of people saying they've been trying for two years to get Despair with no drops and then I was like "OH COOL."

    I've been playing for close to six years and still haven't gotten Hate to drop. I've had War, Dread, and Despair drop multiple times each, but no Hate.

    I've had Hate and Despair drop a couple times each.

    It's always great when it happens in a group, because someone inevitably goes "OH MY GOD, AFTER SO MANY YEARS IT'S FINALLY MINE."

    On the other hand, I suspect that the Brakk is a myth. Despite dozens of G3 kills I still only have the receiver.

    I lucked out with the Brakk and got one piece on accident and the rest within only a few G3 appearances in the space of like a month. It was nice, though I'm not a fan of the gun

    JtgVX0H.png
  • DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    I just bought the What Stalker? bundle years and years ago

    got all them rare weapons sitting nice and snug

    haha... they actually put that pack on sale when they brought the Stalker groupies back last month and I was tempted to buy it.


    Daimar, have you already gone through the Zaws and stuff?

    Mostly, I've been picking away at them so I think I only have 2 or 3 strikes left to go. I said to heck with getting the optimal parts and am just getting the handles and attachments whose ingredients are the easiest to get/I have the most of.

    I could be wrong, but from my equipment tab it doesn't look like the different moa heads or k-drive boards give separate xp, so I may have to revisit those if it is just a display glitch and I really can get xp from more than the first one.

    I also have the Fortuna amps left to build and level, but those are a slower pace since I feel cheesy if I go to Hydron and just stay in spoiler mode the whole time. The alternate is to go to spy missions and hack terminals as the spoiler, but that seems pretty slow once you get the amp to about level 15.

    steam_sig.png
  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Daimar wrote: »
    I just bought the What Stalker? bundle years and years ago

    got all them rare weapons sitting nice and snug

    haha... they actually put that pack on sale when they brought the Stalker groupies back last month and I was tempted to buy it.


    Daimar, have you already gone through the Zaws and stuff?

    Mostly, I've been picking away at them so I think I only have 2 or 3 strikes left to go. I said to heck with getting the optimal parts and am just getting the handles and attachments whose ingredients are the easiest to get/I have the most of.

    I could be wrong, but from my equipment tab it doesn't look like the different moa heads or k-drive boards give separate xp, so I may have to revisit those if it is just a display glitch and I really can get xp from more than the first one.

    I also have the Fortuna amps left to build and level, but those are a slower pace since I feel cheesy if I go to Hydron and just stay in spoiler mode the whole time. The alternate is to go to spy missions and hack terminals as the spoiler, but that seems pretty slow once you get the amp to about level 15.

    The moa heads do give mastery xp afaik, though I'm unsure of the k-drives.

    edit: yes, per the wiki the different moa heads grant mastery xp after you gild them and level them again (like zaws and kitguns), as do the k-drives (they can't be gilded, so they give mastery xp like weapons and frames do)

    Darmak on
    JtgVX0H.png
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    So i finally just spent all my rep to get the vaykor hek, and this thing just explodes things. I havent even put a forma in it, but it still just blows things away. Really nice having more than 4 shots before reload as well. The nikana prime is also really fun, so long as you dont use the reverse sword grip stance. Also hit my 100 days today :)

    SteveRagefurlionPapaganderdipuc4life
  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Endgame PoE stuff:
    Why does Onkko's advice have to be so terrible? "You've broken a synovia, get as far away as you can before your lures capture it!" "You've captured a Teralyst with one lure, now go grab more lures. I won't tell you exactly how many more you need, but I promise it's at least two."

  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    Endgame PoE stuff:
    Why does Onkko's advice have to be so terrible? "You've broken a synovia, get as far away as you can before your lures capture it!" "You've captured a Teralyst with one lure, now go grab more lures. I won't tell you exactly how many more you need, but I promise it's at least two."
    I've heard that the Fortuna guys *h a t e* the Quills, and tbqh I understand why :|

    (in universe tho, part of Onkko's problem is that he is literally unmoored in time and sees all possible pasts, presents, and futures simultaneously. He's basically got 50,000,000 tabs open on Archive Of Our Own, Fanfiction.Net, the Warframe Wiki, and Reddit, and like, three other video games, at the same time. Like it's no wonder he's a useless shit,)

    (out of universe, it's DE's eternal "how do explain gaem? idk??? word?")

    in other news, I will be writing Seraph's Guide to Tridolons tomorrow, and I will happily take anyone who wants to Tridolon with me whenever I'm on and it's PoE night.

    See You Space Cowboy: a ttrpg about sad space bounty hunters
    https://podcast.tidalwavegames.com/
  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    So i finally just spent all my rep to get the vaykor hek, and this thing just explodes things. I havent even put a forma in it, but it still just blows things away. Really nice having more than 4 shots before reload as well. The nikana prime is also really fun, so long as you dont use the reverse sword grip stance. Also hit my 100 days today :)

    Why not Blind justice? It has good combos and an extremely fast front/back finisher animation.

    "The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
    -Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
  • SteveRageSteveRage Registered User regular
    i dont know why, but that struck me like: "why not zoiberg" and i felt bad for blind justice. lol

    -in warframe (pc), i am fungible-
  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    Blind justice knows what it did, don't feel bad for it.

    It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
    Warframe/Steam: NFyt
  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    Endgame PoE stuff:
    Why does Onkko's advice have to be so terrible? "You've broken a synovia, get as far away as you can before your lures capture it!" "You've captured a Teralyst with one lure, now go grab more lures. I won't tell you exactly how many more you need, but I promise it's at least two."
    I've heard that the Fortuna guys *h a t e* the Quills, and tbqh I understand why :|

    (in universe tho, part of Onkko's problem is that he is literally unmoored in time and sees all possible pasts, presents, and futures simultaneously. He's basically got 50,000,000 tabs open on Archive Of Our Own, Fanfiction.Net, the Warframe Wiki, and Reddit, and like, three other video games, at the same time. Like it's no wonder he's a useless shit,)

    (out of universe, it's DE's eternal "how do explain gaem? idk??? word?")

    in other news, I will be writing Seraph's Guide to Tridolons tomorrow, and I will happily take anyone who wants to Tridolon with me whenever I'm on and it's PoE night.

    I'd be up for that. I've got a forma'd Lanka, all the relevant frames, and a gilded 111. A bit nervous about learning the tridolon mechanics in a pub though.

    Steam - BNet: Yilias #1224 - Riot: Yilias #moc
  • TetraRayTetraRay Registered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Endgame PoE stuff:
    Why does Onkko's advice have to be so terrible? "You've broken a synovia, get as far away as you can before your lures capture it!" "You've captured a Teralyst with one lure, now go grab more lures. I won't tell you exactly how many more you need, but I promise it's at least two."
    I've heard that the Fortuna guys *h a t e* the Quills, and tbqh I understand why :|

    (in universe tho, part of Onkko's problem is that he is literally unmoored in time and sees all possible pasts, presents, and futures simultaneously. He's basically got 50,000,000 tabs open on Archive Of Our Own, Fanfiction.Net, the Warframe Wiki, and Reddit, and like, three other video games, at the same time. Like it's no wonder he's a useless shit,)

    (out of universe, it's DE's eternal "how do explain gaem? idk??? word?")

    in other news, I will be writing Seraph's Guide to Tridolons tomorrow, and I will happily take anyone who wants to Tridolon with me whenever I'm on and it's PoE night.

    I'd be up for that. I've got a forma'd Lanka, all the relevant frames, and a gilded 111. A bit nervous about learning the tridolon mechanics in a pub though.

    I was able to tag along on one yesterday, it was fun! I didnt have much of a clue what was going on after the first ediolon but I was still able to pull my weight (mostly). Would do again.

    Biggest thing I noticed was I could no longer just assume I could tank the damage like I was able to with the first.

    Steam ID: TetraRay
  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    SteveRage wrote: »
    i dont know why, but that struck me like: "why not zoiberg" and i felt bad for blind justice. lol

    SicETVW.jpg

    "The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
    -Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
    SteveRage
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    So i finally just spent all my rep to get the vaykor hek, and this thing just explodes things. I havent even put a forma in it, but it still just blows things away. Really nice having more than 4 shots before reload as well. The nikana prime is also really fun, so long as you dont use the reverse sword grip stance. Also hit my 100 days today :)

    Why not Blind justice? It has good combos and an extremely fast front/back finisher animation.

    Because when youre just using quick melee with your primary equipped its slashes are really short and hitbox is tiny. Plus like its hard to even cut open a chest let alone an enemy. Where the other stances are more what i expect from a katana.

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    So i finally just spent all my rep to get the vaykor hek, and this thing just explodes things. I havent even put a forma in it, but it still just blows things away. Really nice having more than 4 shots before reload as well. The nikana prime is also really fun, so long as you dont use the reverse sword grip stance. Also hit my 100 days today :)

    Why not Blind justice? It has good combos and an extremely fast front/back finisher animation.

    Because when youre just using quick melee with your primary equipped its slashes are really short and hitbox is tiny. Plus like its hard to even cut open a chest let alone an enemy. Where the other stances are more what i expect from a katana.

    To each their own, but I'm a huge fan of it. I don't like nikanas much, but if I'm going to use one then I'm putting Blind Justice on it

    JtgVX0H.png
    FiendishrabbitEtiowsa
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    So i finally just spent all my rep to get the vaykor hek, and this thing just explodes things. I havent even put a forma in it, but it still just blows things away. Really nice having more than 4 shots before reload as well. The nikana prime is also really fun, so long as you dont use the reverse sword grip stance. Also hit my 100 days today :)

    Why not Blind justice? It has good combos and an extremely fast front/back finisher animation.

    Because when youre just using quick melee with your primary equipped its slashes are really short and hitbox is tiny. Plus like its hard to even cut open a chest let alone an enemy. Where the other stances are more what i expect from a katana.

    To each their own, but I'm a huge fan of it. I don't like nikanas much, but if I'm going to use one then I'm putting Blind Justice on it

    Stylistically I think its great. Functionally is where i dont like it. But i also dont usually run around with stealth frames so the finishers dont really matter much.

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    So i finally just spent all my rep to get the vaykor hek, and this thing just explodes things. I havent even put a forma in it, but it still just blows things away. Really nice having more than 4 shots before reload as well. The nikana prime is also really fun, so long as you dont use the reverse sword grip stance. Also hit my 100 days today :)

    Why not Blind justice? It has good combos and an extremely fast front/back finisher animation.

    Because when youre just using quick melee with your primary equipped its slashes are really short and hitbox is tiny. Plus like its hard to even cut open a chest let alone an enemy. Where the other stances are more what i expect from a katana.

    To each their own, but I'm a huge fan of it. I don't like nikanas much, but if I'm going to use one then I'm putting Blind Justice on it

    Stylistically I think its great. Functionally is where i dont like it. But i also dont usually run around with stealth frames so the finishers dont really matter much.

    Oh, that's why then, I choose most everything based on how cool it looks 😂

    JtgVX0H.png
    Olivaw
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Yeah im super lazy. I dont want to work hard at anything. Thats why i run around with an amprex usually, and use melee weapons as my aoe weapon when im using a sniper for a specific mission.

    Darmak
  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    pfft all this arguing over a slightly overgrown katana

    *pats stupendously implausible kronen prime*

    Darmak
  • SteveRageSteveRage Registered User regular
    i have 26 various guns baking to a lovely golden brown color in the foundry and 2 frames to level for the upcoming double affinity weekend.
    i'm gonna have to do some index tomorrow cuz i am so credit shy now.

    -in warframe (pc), i am fungible-
    Darmak
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    my goal for the weekend is get the last piece of saryn prime and not pay the 150p plat its going for now.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I just learned something about triple eidolons, having no revives left, and abandoning the squad.

    jothki on
  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Can someone explain to me how the whole Dragon Key thing works, and the general protocol for finding/joining a group to do them? I'm interested in finally grabbing a few Corrupted mods, both for use and to sell on the Market, especially Narrow Minded so people stop yelling at me when I bring Limbo to Defense (I'm using standard range you nerds! Especially you, Mesas, your Press 4 To Win IGNORES THE RIFT)

    Lucid_Seraph on
    See You Space Cowboy: a ttrpg about sad space bounty hunters
    https://podcast.tidalwavegames.com/
  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Basically you equip them in your gear wheel and they give you debuffs depending which one you have equipped. You can equip all 4 at once but will be pretty gimped. I imagine you can find people in recruiting chat for it. I just used rhino with a fully formad rubico prime and just did solo runs of the derelict capture mission. Rhino can equip all 4 without much of a problem. Just do the mission then search for the treasure room. Also you can scan kavats for genetic code ehile youre there.

    Just remember to unequip the keys when youre done with the derelict, because it will debuff you everywhere.

This discussion has been closed.