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Penny Arcade - Comic - Constituency

DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
edited February 2019 in The Penny Arcade Hub

imagePenny Arcade - Comic - Constituency

Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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  • Evil_MonkeysEvil_Monkeys Registered User regular
    The fact that the premier access gets Anthem almost a week before people who buy the game seems like highway robbery to me.

  • OuterSpaceBearOuterSpaceBear Registered User new member
    It's a good way to play a new game for a month without paying for the full game.

    It's a real bad way to constantly pay to play the same game forever.

  • MPKLokiMPKLoki Registered User new member
    You forgot "to play Anthem for 3 days until you realize it's terrible, then desperately try to find another game in their library you'd like to play for the remaining 27 to extract every ounce of value that you can from the money you've wasted on the cursed EA money absorbing machine!"

    ...this is a hypothetical situation of course.

  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    It’s honestly got a huge ass range of some incredible Indies. Getting $5 a month out of it isn’t hard.

    Like it’s a testament to how much everyone (deservedly) hates origin that a service which is Netflix for Indy games isn’t more popular.

  • desrdesr Registered User regular
    I was ready to jump on the hate wagon but there are actually some nice games in the basic plan, which warrant the 4 euros fee.
    Unravel 1 and 2, They are billions, the Darksiders trilogy, all the battlefields, Rime, A way out...

    Obviously this is IF they keep the 4 euros ticket, if they enter the 10 euros range of the Microsoft store, with all its horrible games (most of which can only be played on XBox but not on PC), they could keep it.

  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Holy cow, that squrl.

    dennis on
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I get a chuckle out of how "Origin Access is terrible" (it might be) runs right up against another popular notion, "Only grandpas buy physical distribution of media. What are you, some kind of grandpa?" (also maybe true).

    I won't even subscribe to Netflix because I would rather just spend money and buy a film I intend to watch more than once (also, I'm a notorious cheapskate). I wouldn't subscribe to a hypothetical "Steam access" unlike someone stole my credit card and forged my information, much less "Origin Access." I'm the exact opposite of the intended market.

    But if you really like variety, don't have an inconvenient bandwidth cap, and play mostly on PC, it makes obvious sense. Well, if you like EA's library anyway. The last EA game I purchased was Battlefront II, which I paid $6 for--I would argue the correct amount to pay for Battlefield II ultimately.

  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    I don't finish games quick enough to do Netflix For Games, but I'm going to put my quick plug in for Humble Monthly. I subbed for three months because it got me Kingdom Come for "free" (or, alternately, I paid $36 for Kingdom Come and got a massive backlog of games added to my library for free). Now I'm unsubbed and it will take me a year to get through just the 10% of those games which I actually want to play.

  • YeOldeWizardYeOldeWizard Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Well, if you like EA's library anyway. The last EA game I purchased was Battlefront II, which I paid $6 for--I would argue the correct amount to pay for Battlefield II ultimately.

    I think this is what it really comes down to. Humble Monthly makes more sense because they have a huge catalog of games. Some sort of "Steam Access" would make sense because they have almost every game imaginable, and GoG isn't too far behind.

    With Origin Access, you're paying a monthly subscription for a scandalously small catalog. It only makes economical sense if you love EA's entire output. If you're only playing a few games or a specific series, it makes way more sense to buy upfront. This Anthem promotion seems like a desperate play to boost subscriber numbers - if the subscription service was doing well, just having Anthem exclusive to Origin would be enough.

    I'd compare it to the difference between Netflix and CBS All Access. Netflix has a huge catalog that many subscribe to for overall content, whereas CBS All Access is about the same price for a fraction of the shows - only making sense if you *love* those specific shows.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I dunno I got xbox live gamepass which is like the origin access program and its worked out great for me. Like I've easily played in the last month more than the 120 dollar price tag.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno I got xbox live gamepass which is like the origin access program and its worked out great for me. Like I've easily played in the last month more than the 120 dollar price tag.

    On PC only or including your Xbox? I don't think there is much doubt that gamepass is a pretty great deal for Xbox.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno I got xbox live gamepass which is like the origin access program and its worked out great for me. Like I've easily played in the last month more than the 120 dollar price tag.

    On PC only or including your Xbox? I don't think there is much doubt that gamepass is a pretty great deal for Xbox.

    Xbox I don't really game on my pc. But its definitely a games as service thingy like EA Origin access.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno I got xbox live gamepass which is like the origin access program and its worked out great for me. Like I've easily played in the last month more than the 120 dollar price tag.

    On PC only or including your Xbox? I don't think there is much doubt that gamepass is a pretty great deal for Xbox.

    Xbox I don't really game on my pc. But its definitely a games as service thingy like EA Origin access.

    On Xbox there is also EA access which is the console equivalent to Origin Access. I think it’s a pretty good deal if you like their library.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    LostNinja wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno I got xbox live gamepass which is like the origin access program and its worked out great for me. Like I've easily played in the last month more than the 120 dollar price tag.

    On PC only or including your Xbox? I don't think there is much doubt that gamepass is a pretty great deal for Xbox.

    Xbox I don't really game on my pc. But its definitely a games as service thingy like EA Origin access.

    On Xbox there is also EA access which is the console equivalent to Origin Access. I think it’s a pretty good deal if you like their library.

    It's also older, and works a bit more smoothly because it's baked into the UI the same way Xbox Gamepass is--which is mildly controversial but does cut down on steps (though not sustainable if there were a bunch of competing services, there just happens to be two right now).

    On the Playstation end there is PS Now which is...expensive ($19.99US a month). I think that's hard to argue with. Whether or not the expense is worth it comes down to a few things--the streaming aspect of it leaves a LOT to be desired, but where it works like Xbox Gamepass (downloading a game to console) the experience is much better. It's just that, like EA Access, the library could be bigger.

    Synthesis on
  • JackJack Registered User regular
    I mean, as squirrels go, that's got to be the smartest one. So bit of a mixed message here.

  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    I severely hate Origin. If the girlfriend wasn’t so in love with The Sims2 Ultimate collection I’d exterminatus the whole fucking thing. What a mockery they have made of the Origin brand.

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Well, if you like EA's library anyway. The last EA game I purchased was Battlefront II, which I paid $6 for--I would argue the correct amount to pay for Battlefield II ultimately.

    I think this is what it really comes down to. Humble Monthly makes more sense because they have a huge catalog of games. Some sort of "Steam Access" would make sense because they have almost every game imaginable, and GoG isn't too far behind.

    With Origin Access, you're paying a monthly subscription for a scandalously small catalog. It only makes economical sense if you love EA's entire output. If you're only playing a few games or a specific series, it makes way more sense to buy upfront. This Anthem promotion seems like a desperate play to boost subscriber numbers - if the subscription service was doing well, just having Anthem exclusive to Origin would be enough.

    I'd compare it to the difference between Netflix and CBS All Access. Netflix has a huge catalog that many subscribe to for overall content, whereas CBS All Access is about the same price for a fraction of the shows - only making sense if you *love* those specific shows.

    ???

    They have a huge range of games that aren't made by them on the service.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Jack wrote: »
    I mean, as squirrels go, that's got to be the smartest one. So bit of a mixed message here.

    Rocky and Secret Squirrel probably have it beat, but it's easily above average.

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  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    Origin, aka the Legends of the Apex launcher.

    aka that thing I bought Mass Effect 2 offa like six years ago

  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    replace "xbox live" with "steam" and it's 2003 all over again
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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    For a long time I thought he was holding sunscreen.

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    I think it’s less Origin and more EA.

    Although, given the state of Steam and how Valve is evolving as close as it can to being an EA or Activision-Blizzard without being publicly traded, we need a diversification of marketplaces and yet all available options are deeply flawed.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    jwalk wrote: »
    replace "xbox live" with "steam" and it's 2003 all over again

    Fortunately enough, everything sort of worked itself out--not the way Tycho (or most of us) expected. EA games work pretty good on Xbox Live, I'd say, and EA Access is pretty good...if you like EA Games.

    Microsoft did not buy EA, to no one's surprise. I'm sure they're really kicking themselves over not being liable for however many tens or hundreds of millions of dollars EA paid for the Star Wars license to exclusively produce a whole two deeply beloved and totally uncontroversial games. Or letting Sony heavily promote Mass Effect Andromeda, which ushered in a glorious second Mass Effect golden age that immediately surpassed the first one on Xbox 360.

    Seriously, EA's made some boneheaded long term decisions, even by Microsoft's standards. They're not Activision, but that's not high praise.

    Synthesis on
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    I think the idea in 2003 was that Microsoft would (in the comic-verse) buy FIFA, Madden, NHL, NBA Live, Need for Speed...

    Also getting all that Sims money would've been pretty sweet I guess

    Platy on
  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    Granny and Squrl have the same mouth expression.

  • Hawk oneHawk one Registered User regular
    Even if I did like EA's library, I just can't bring myself to play any game they've made or (more likely) published. They're just too big scumbags for me to ignore.

    But signatures don't really work, do they?
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