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[Hiberno-Britannic Politics] Helter Skelter
Bogart
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Credit for OP goes to RMS, I think. I dunno, it's been the same one for a while. So this archipelago
Has these nations.
These nations are almost completely (not) unique in that they're run by a system known as Politics!
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Run by these folk.
These folk would rather they didn't.
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A spiffing place to keep up to date with the latest developments.
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I really need to start paying attention to the political situation down south, especially with that threatened and justified EU veto. It looked like there might be an election but now there isn't?
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A shockin' good place to see what the feck the craic is.
The Gang of Seven have formed a new Party, well, not a party right now, but a group, called The Independent Group. Will their numbers swell, or will the bandits pick them off one after the other as they defend the village? Chukka does look a bit like Yul Brynner, doesn't he? Who's his Steve McQueen going to be? Who is the Horst Buckholz? Obviously Mike Gapes is the Brad Dexter of the group.
Has these nations.
These nations are almost completely (not) unique in that they're run by a system known as Politics!
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Run by these folk.
These folk would rather they didn't.
[img][/img]The Issue
A spiffing place to keep up to date with the latest developments.
An Poblacht na hÉireann
I really need to start paying attention to the political situation down south, especially with that threatened and justified EU veto. It looked like there might be an election but now there isn't?
GeocitiesInConstruction.gif
A shockin' good place to see what the feck the craic is.
The Gang of Seven have formed a new Party, well, not a party right now, but a group, called The Independent Group. Will their numbers swell, or will the bandits pick them off one after the other as they defend the village? Chukka does look a bit like Yul Brynner, doesn't he? Who's his Steve McQueen going to be? Who is the Horst Buckholz? Obviously Mike Gapes is the Brad Dexter of the group.
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My money is on the latter.
We're not competent enough to actually work out a deal IMO
I have complete confidence that it will somehow end up being worse than either of those possibilities
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So I guess the next thread is going to start on March 29th. And last for about a week until it hits 100 pages, maybe.
I think it's a good thing that MPs unhappy with their own party now have something they can point to and say start listening or I'm off over there. They might all get kicked out at the next election or they might snowball and become a genuine third option. Who knows? May you live in interesting times etc
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The proper way to live in a flat is of course to take half a million quid in an interest free loan from a union and buy it outright, as brave hero Len McCluskey did.
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I don't think they need to dig up dirt - as long as the old trots can throw out the words "Blairite" and "Centrist" then they'll feel that they've made their argument.
Has enough time passed since the last attempt failed?
None whatsoever from either the Tories or Labour, nor will there be. It's a system that benefits both of them and ensures the government will one one or the other so neither will want to change it.
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They did it in 1997 winning enough seats to make Scotland immaterial to their majority, which was admittedly a landslide victory over a clapped-out, exhausted Tory government. NI leaving would probably help Labour a little, as the two parties returning MPs from there are either the swivel-eyed nutjobs of the DUP who are implacably opposed to Labour, or Sinn Fein, who are much more sympathetic to Labour but who don't actually turn up and vote.
At present Scotland is barely returning any Labour MPs anyway, certainly not enough to make much of a difference. At present the Tories have almost double the number of Labour MPs in Scotland, so Scotland becoming independent would help Labour right now.
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Every single part of this process has been done in the absolute worst possible way.
lots of mps trying to force meaningful parliamentary input, although certainly in this timeline the miller case was important
re: fptp
corbyn was talking about a constitutional convention and reform to the house of commons (make-up mps to make it representational a la new zealand but keep the constituency connection) and lords (fully elected) in 2015 but then brexit happened and he stopped talking about it
Too bad her hand is two pair Aces over Eights.
From what I can tell she's holding a Joker, the "rules of poker" card, a Death from a tarot deck and a 1992 Sheffield Wednesday Panini sticker
Unfortunately, everyone else is playing Chess.
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I guess what I wanted to say was Boris Johnson's hair looks like a shredded sheet of fabric softener.
She has since apologised and certainly didn't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist or an anti-semite.
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Unfortunately smart and clever don't necessarily trump sheer mule-headed stubbornness.
Indeed, I'd bust out the dread word "performative", but in fact most of them seem to be quite sincere and earnest about being utter knobs.
How the hell do you go "Those folks who accused us of being anti-semitic? Funded by Jews" and not just have your head explode.
This is a special case of this general problem.
Holy shit what is wrong with theses people? How insane is this party?
I think the Miller case was about the PM’s ability to make the article 50 notification, not the negotiation/“meaningful vote”. The need for a vote came from Dominic Grieve last year, I think?
yes she did art 50
meaningful vote self-inflicted by may after pressure
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wowee what a surprise
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eu commission press office, retweeted by selmayr, seems fairly voice of godish
also gove announcing tariffs on agricultural goods to protect uk agriculture is finger kissingly perfect
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/19/brexit-uk-will-apply-food-tariffs-in-case-of-no-deal-michael-gove-says
for those wondering
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/18/ministers-tell-may-stop-using-no-deal-threat-as-negotiating-tactic
I would really love to know more about how they know this, because the implication is that one of the ministers involved has spoken off the record about said meeting
telegraph got it 8pm last night but most ministers have been leaking like mad because may is so bad at communication